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Hi Joel,

There's a lot of work coming up w.r.t. the Whole Earth Catalog. I hope you will be able to help with it! +sj + 06:23, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Just ran into Stewart Brand at MIT today, thanked him for releasing copyright on the original texts. The imaegs are still mighty hard to run OCR on...

Aldous Huxley
Hi, saw you have been making a series of improvements to the Aldous Huxley entry. I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the pair of comments I made down the bottom of Talk:Aldous Huxley. I think the article gives the wrong impression in a couple points but don't really consider myself qualified to make that judgement definitively. Rkundalini

Pellet stove
Hi Joel,

I saw you put in the link to Pellet stove. I've raised a question about low-cost variations on Talk:Pellet_stove - in case you have anything to contribute. Cheers --Singkong2005 02:12, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Shoghi Effendi
Hi Joel Russ,

You recently contributed to the Shoghi Effendi article and added a statement about his connection with Richard St. Barbe Baker. Could you please add some kind of reference for the statement? I don't doubt that it's true, but it will likely be deleted without a reference, even if the reference is just an off-site link, or a book title. Cuñado  -  Talk  16:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Joel, I must thank you instead. You did the brunt of the work improving the R. St. Barbe Baker article. He was indeed a great person. I definitely know that you were not trying to leave out the Baha'i Faith, as it still is a relatively obscure religion to most, so no worries.

It's wonderful that you are so active in trying to better the world we live in. I really wish we had more people who were more concerned with the environment. While, I'm not an environmentalist by profession, I do try to do my small part in helping the environment. I think, generally most Baha'is, are concerned with the environment and see the exploitation of our planetary natural resources as one of the symptoms of an overly materialistic society, that only considers short-term economic growth, and does not benefit all of humanity, and cannot concern itself with the long-term viability of life on earth.

Anwyas, thanks again for your great expansion of the article -- Jeff3000 18:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Sustainable Fisheries
Hi Joel. Regarding sustainable fisheries, there are few good examples in the world to point to and industrial fishing, with sein purse nets and long-lines are particularly damaging to the environment. The Australian government has been particularly concerned with the poaching of Patagonian tooth fish (see article at http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=11981) and also with the taking of sharks fins, trochus shells and beche la mer (Sea cucumbers) by Indonesian craft, operating for Chinese syndicates in the north.

See the attached UPI article - Australia detains 200 Indonesian fishermen

PERTH, Australia, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Australia has detained more than 200 Indonesian fishermen caught poaching for shark fins for Chinese-owned companies, The Australian reported Thursday.

The fishermen are being held in a makeshift detention camp at the northwest port of Broome, the report said.

In the latest incident Tuesday, Australian Customs officers battled fishermen wielding knives and machetes, who set fire to their boat in an attempt to prevent the officers from boarding it. The officers found two holds full of shark fins and the carcasses of about 50 sharks.

The fishermen are paid around $45 a month by Chinese-owned fishing syndicates, and will likely have to pay for their lost boats on top of the fines they must pay Australia, a lawyer who is defending 15 fishermen told a Perth court Wednesday.

Legal Aid lawyer David McKenzie said each of his clients was their family's breadwinner, with up to seven children to support.

The men were fined between $1,500 and $5,000 by the court.

Australia initiated a crackdown on foreign fishing boats after news reports that they were coming closer to the northern coast, raising fears of disease as some crews were said to be setting up camp and bringing animals ashore. -

To deal with these issues the Australian government have just tightened up the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 (EPBC Act) which means that the Australian Government can now play a stronger role in promoting ecologically sustainable management of fisheries and assessing their environmental performance. We have one of the few remaining sustainable fisheries on the planet.

This is partly due to the work in Australia of the very active Australian Marine Fisheries Conservation Society that play a very important role.

As for what is happening elsewhere I can remember reading that 17 of the 19 major world fisheries are collapsing through overfishing. Pretty grim.

Hope this helps

John D. Croft 16:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject Environment
Hi Joel, Welcome to WikiProject Environment. --Alex 13:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info Joel, I hope you enjoyed your trip to Scotland. I have recently come back from a weekend up in Aberdeen, there's some beautiful scenery up there. --Alex 13:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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Reference/endnote how-to
Ask me whenever you need help. This includes asking a (nearly) unlimited number of silly questions :). For a start, read Footnotes (as CesarB replied to you on the Village pump). --Ligulem 16:45, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Renewable Energy Sites
What sort of information are you looking for? Basic research (5-10 years to fielding), piloting efforts (3-5 years to fielding), or full scale development renewable energy products? The field changes so fast right now that it's difficult to find one source of links. Are you interesting solar, biofuels, wind,...? Do you want information at a layman's level or engineer's? Assuming the former, here are some places to start, the first being narrative and general, and the second being a trove of places to look for more information; http://www.azsolarcenter.com/education/renewable011199.html http://www.uwsp.edu/CNR/wcee/keep/Renewable_Energy_Education/

Cheers! Skyemoor 21:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Home Power magazine is a good source for determining how to power your home with solar, wind, micro-hydro, etc.

WikiProject Environment
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Assessment Scale
Do you think WikiProject Environment should start working on assessment scale? It would be better to do now than wait for backlog to accmuluate. OhanaUnited  07:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

A new task force that could use your help!
Hi, Joel! A few editors are getting together to create a task force with the goal of making sure environmental records of corporations and politicians are accurately and efficiently represented in relevant entries. Given your interests, I thought I'd bring your attention to this project. If you think it's a good idea, please consider chiming in on the discussion page. We hope to have a task force page up soon and of course would love to have you involved!Benzocane 23:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Joel, for your thoughts. We've made some progress getting the Task Force page up. We are more geared towards record keeping than the particulars of new technologies, but you might take a look all the same and see if it interests you. If you have any thoughts or advice at any point, of course it would be most welcome. Benzocane 20:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Peak oil

 * TRUE Scary isn't it? Fifty years ago the world was consuming 4 billion barrels of oil per year and the average discovery was around 30 billion. Today we consume 30 billion barrels per year (84 million barrels of oil per day) and the discovery rate is now approaching 4 billion barrels of crude oil per year (11 million barrels of oil per day). 84/11 = 7.6  Kjell Aleklett The oil supply tsunami alert Energy Bulletin, April 25, 2005.  The difference is being made up from draining known reserves (since production = consumption right now).

This is well oil - "crude". Unconventional oil is often in the form of tar sands and shale and to date still very difficult to extract. Consumption continues to go up because of developing nations and discovery of new oil is going down fast every year. Find some sources to disprove it.Kgrr 14:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes/Refernces
Hello Joel. A rather belated reply on referencing. I cannot give any definitive answer to your questions. It is difficult to juggle layout for best appearance with how to accurately give sources of info. In the article in question I went for appearance over accurate placement of references. I think that as long as the references are there and accurately quoted and analysed the job is done. I suspect the majority of WP readers want the info itself rather than the refs so I edit pages for the readers who are not chasing refs. Apparently there will be a Wikimedia revision that allows blocks of text to be easily referenced. It looks like something that would be impossible to achieve in printed material. -- Alan Liefting talk 06:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

re:CQ
Hi Joel Russ. Sorry about that, I rarely check email so I didn't see your message (my talk page is the best place to contact me). I'll respond to your questions here. By all means, restore any parts of the article that can be sourced- it would be greatly appreciated. My goal was to clean up these articles which contained a great deal of unsourced information. Thanks for your work on these pages. -Classicfilms (talk) 17:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Jack Schwarz
You wrote .... Hi. After quite a few years now as a contributor to, and user of, Wikipedia, I decided to plug in the name Jack Schwarz. I participated a seminar of several days with him, in Vancouver many years ago. Anyhow, I enjoyed and learned from your article about Jack. Did you know him? Joel Russ (talk) 05:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I met him only a few times with Bennet Wong and Jock McKeen.  Ben and Jock had a warm relationship with him, and I was with them at conferences on a couple of occasions where I witnessed Jack's respect for them, and their enjoyment of him.  He was an old-world European gentleman with a very open mind.  I liked him a lot.  William Meyer (talk) 17:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hi. I came upon the name of a child called Bobby de Ropp as part of a study I was doing, and was intrigued when I found the Wiki article which had to be about the same person - which then referred only to his later writings on human potential. Further surprise when I discovered a completely different angle in his academic career and work which was not then included in the article. I was puzzled because he disappeared off the radar inexplicably between childhood and his academic career. Add to that the mysterious Baron de Ropp who seemed to be the most likely candidate to be his father. Had I sent off for Warriors Way instead of The Master Game, all would have been explained. However by digging around I have come up with some independent corroboration of his autobio. So I am most grateful to you for bringing WW to my attention and I now have a copy. And remain astounded by his fascinating life. Ironical that he nearly committed suicide in Australia by trying to drown in the harbour, and eventually did die by drowning. Regards Motmit (talk) 19:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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 * Hi Joel, got your email. I prefer communicating on-wiki unless privacy issues are involved. I sent you this message because marking an edit minor is only for things like spelling, grammar and formatting corrections. You added an entire paragraph with citations, from what I can tell. I haven't evaluated the content, but because some editors exclude minor edits from their watchlist, minor edits might not be seen by as many editors. For a true minor edit, this is not an issue. Marking major edits minor is sometimes used by editors who would like their edit to receive less scrutiny from other editors. I'm sure this is not the case for you, that you were just unaware how marking an edit minor was supposed to be used. So it's just a informational message about how and when to mark an edit minor. Yworo (talk) 22:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Bucke
Hi, I know you're a big wheel on that page. But it's always suffered a little from underciting.

I have never gone through the log to identify who precisely hadn't done his citations fully.

Anyway, your latest add matches the existing citation on that paragraph, eh?

There's some good stuff in that article; I don't want to see a member of the can't-see-the-forest-for-the-trees battalion blowing away half the article cuz it lacks a footnote.

Yours in mental health, Varlaam (talk) 20:13, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Fisheries management
Yes, you're right, it is not clear so I've reworded it. What is meant is something like the maximum sustainable yield. If fisheries are run down by harvesting too many, you come to a point of diminishing returns where the amount you can continue to harvest at a steady rate has become much less than it need be. This is one definition of overfishing, and it turns out that many of the global fisheries have now been overfished. The solution is simple for the most part, curtail fishing for a while until the fisheries recover and then resume fishing. The current fishing fleet is a separate matter, and has a gross overcapacity. --Epipelagic (talk) 01:08, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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