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Hi, I just want to let you know that I removed the BLPprod tag from Jürgen Rittenauer, the article now has a reference. In this edit summary you questioned the subject's notability, so if you still feel it should be deleted traditional prod or AfD are still options. Take care J04n(talk page) 12:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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Miguel Julio Garcia
Hello. I can't access your newspaper story, but have found another one from 1985 about a goalkeeper of that name, and NASLjerseys confirms that Garcia as an 84/85 MISL squad member who never played for the first team. This has Garcia the goalkeeper still on the roster in 85/86 without having played, and this has him back trying out for the Sockers having played for Guadalajara in the Mexican First Division. From the history, it looks like someone created a very basic biography and then another editor (maybe this guy) added all the detail, including making him a forward with 15 appearances for the Sockers..... Don't think any of it amounts to actual proof that any of these Miguel Garcias ever played for any team in a notable competition, though. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

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Could you please tell me how many football player articles you have created so far? Thank you in advance. Bine Mai  21:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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Makedonia Football Clubs Association v. Union of Football Clubs of Macedonia (Thessaloniki) and Thessaly Football Clubs Association
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Mexican team/franchise changes
Hi Jo, I'm not sure if you saw this thread at the time, but I was wondering if you are able to provide any input to the query, as I believe I have seen you active on North American football in the past. Just to clarify matters, Merida's article states that their nickname is Venados and the city is in Yucatan, so you would think logically there is some link with the new Venados de Yuacatan franchise, except both Merida and Atlante II (aka Venados) are listed in the same league at Soccerway this season. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 11:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding on this. I have gone through some of the Spanish-language sources, together with the season results at RSSSF, and it seems the two 2nd level franchises effectively swapped owners/filials. I have added some text to the Merida and Atlante UTN articles, although the latter may need more, and I need to confirm where that side are now playing. On a related note, have you see this table, and in particular the "fb" templates within it which make it difficult to make changes. Are you aware of the rationale of such a table, and do you know how to edit it? Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Supraślanka Supraśl
Fair enough. It coincidentally was the only club where I didn't check 90minut.pl for recent cup appearances... Oh well. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 23:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Every club I made an article participated in their history in Polish Cup. They participated in local competitions. The winner of these competitions is promoted to play in the main Polish Cup. Just read the article. Thank you. BTW: Why aren't non-league English teams deleted ? Bosmanek83 (talk) 07:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Uf... so embaracing
Oh Jogurney, I´m sorry for this edit sumary. I didn´t checked it was you who did the article, and I suposed some local guy added his nickname, sorry :( . But you need to know that "Zuba" is quite negative nickname, meaning "toothsome", or "big tooth", so I doubt the guy enjoyed the nickname... Hey, I also remembered that you can easily add the nationality cat (Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin, etc. footballer) that way more easily found in the cats. You can just check guys birthplace, and mosly you´ll have it right, if not someone else would correct it, no prob. Sorry for this "toothy", allways yours :) best regards, FkpCascais (talk) 21:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know, the minorities and wrong borders, quite a Yugoslav issue. I´ll try to help on the articles I see around. I had noteced that you have been for some time now making many articles about Yugoslav guys who played in Greece, and most, except the best ones, were just without article here. I used recently the RSSSF list of foreign players in Greece and listed all the ones related with Yugoslavia and searched their careers for the ones that didn´t had article, thus notecing that many didn´t had. I basically did it because I was searching for other ex-Yu players that played in FR Yugoslav league during the 1990s, so I have it listed on paper somewhere in my room (my room is a natural disaster, so I´ll find it some day...). I also use the "cyrillic" adition as knowing which articles I checked, and which I didn´t. FkpCascais (talk) 22:06, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Jogurney, just a question, I hope you don´t mind me messing your stuff around, but, Have you been updating your list? You know, I grew up in México... tequilla, and stuff. :) FkpCascais (talk) 22:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

A favour to ask
Hello. Last month, you helped me when I asked about sources for Nuno Mendes. You found a useful link on FPF and said you might be able to manipulate the entry to get prior years. Well, I nominated the article for GA status and it has just received a review which it is agonisingly close to passing. Unless it can be demonstrated that ForaDeJogo is a reliable source then I'll have to replace most, if not all, of the references to it. The link you found for the 2010–11 season is a big help and I was hoping that you could find his statistics for 2008–09 and 2009–10? There are a few more from earlier in his career, but I might just have to cut down the detail if I can't find a reliable source that confirms he played in a match on a certain date. The records on LPFP only seem to go back as far as 2004–05. Thanks in advance. Argyle 4 Life talk  03:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for trying, it's appreciated. It does seem odd that there isn't an archive, maybe there will be one day, but if I can't find anything then I'll just have to cut out some detail for it to pass. The page you did find is a great help because it officially proves that he is playing for Gondomar. Argyle 4 Life  talk  00:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It passed thanks to your effort in finding out what they do to ensure that the information is accurate and providing evidence of a newspaper using it as a source, so I think one of these is required. Argyle 4 Life  talk  10:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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 * Hi Jogurney. No need to apologize considering the amazing amount of work you've done to eliminate unreferenced BLPs. I was mainly looking for references confirming that he had played in a professional league, and simply missed the one stating he had played for the national team. This does indeed make him notable per WP:NFOOTBALL. Cheers Tooga - BØRK! 14:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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Kevin Zonzon
MFK Zemplín Michalovce is a full professional football team in slovak second level. There are not-fully pro teams in this league, but MFK Zemplín is a fully-professional team, please do not remove this article about Kevin Zonzon. (User_talk:IQual) 23:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Footy stuff
Hi. Just wanted to tell you that I am not sure you understood that the intention of those editors in that discussion is not to replace Estionian SSR, Soviet Union with Estonia, Soviet Union, but they want to leave only Estonia in place... I am a bit sad as people don´t seem to end really the discussion. However, seems that a wide discussion on this is what is making things hard. Following the idea the user from Ice Hockey Project mentioned that they do the same, what do you think about the idea of making this only a Footy Project issue, discuss it there, and make a rule only for footy biographies? Seems more easier to reach understanding, as it seems to me that many non-footy editors are affraid to go deep into this specially because of the middle age historical figures, however our task here is way more simple, as we at Footy deal only with bios from late XIX c. on.

Jogurney, I wanted to ask you if you ever met User:Yufrepj? Have you ever seen his sandboxes? These ones: User:Yufrepj/Portugal-caps, User:Yufrepj/Bulgaria-caps, User:Yufrepj/Albania-caps, User:Yufrepj/Hungary-caps, User:Yufrepj/Sweden-caps, User:Yufrepj/Romania-caps. Some of these lists are the most complete existing on the net, and I found information I couldn´t found nowhere else. Is he retired? FkpCascais (talk) 04:27, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Wait a sec, they are the ones defending Estonia, and I am the one defending Estonian SSR, Soviet Union, considering that we are already making them a favour by even having the Estonian SSR in between, as we mostly use strictly city+country only. You said that "it's unlikely that the other users are willing to compromise on the use of Estonia in the infobox", however they revert all "corrections" and have all Estonian footballers saying Estonia in birthplace, so it is not that others will not compromise, but we actually anded up compromised, as we are giving up to them. It is not about me making this personal, because after all I lost time fighting them there, but we really do have some consensus on this on our project and we could easily impose the consensus if all of us just admited in one place that the consensus exists. It is all but fair that fine editors like you avoid editing articles from that geographical area because of some nationalists. I´ll wait a bit and perhaps I´ll open a new thread at Footy inviting everyone to discuss it and archive consensus at least for footy bios.


 * With regard to his lists, my problem is that his lists are the only ones on the internet for Bulgaria for exemple, so basically, exemple, Metodi Tomanov, beside the simple mentioning of him as international in some Bulgarian articles, he is the only one confirming that for me. Couple of days ago it happend to me again, when the website of one minor Serbian club Šumadija Aranđelovac (club article recently deleted, although seems they played in Cup and Yugo 2nd Div but I havent fully checked it all yet to ask for restoring him) said in the history section that the first foreigner was an Albanian international goalkeeper Dode Tahiri, so I initially thought it was local exageration about him being capped for Albania, however I founded him on Yupfrepj´s Albanian list, and it is the only place I could confirm him! So his lists have been extremely helpfull for me already twice, beside having checked many others on the list and all were correct. It would be really a goal to have one day all these lists complete for most countries. FkpCascais (talk) 04:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

1992 African Cup of Nations squads
Hello! I have a doubt about the date of birth of the Egyptian player Magdy Tolba. According to the article, it appears December 5, 1966, but almost all the sources adfirm February 24, 1964. If you agree, I will correct the date, ok? Or do you know the precise date of birth of Magdy Tolba? Thanks for any reply, --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:18, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've fixed his date of birth. Thanks for your attention and greetings from Italy, --VAN ZANT (talk) 18:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, for starters, thanks for creating the article! As for his DOB, like you, I've found both used, but it seems like January 9th is the more common one used. It's really up to you which one you want to use, or maybe you can include both ("sometimes listed as .."). Sorry couldn't be of much help, hard to find those kind of details for some of the older Algerian players. TonyStarks (talk) 04:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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regarding this message from you (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alexanderalgrim#Proposed_deletion_of_V.C3.ADtor_Bruno), i see that this chap continues with his non-notable creations, sadly...

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Hey Jogurney, remember the discussion at FOOTY? I am sorry if I missunderstood you, I hope you didn´t found me unpleasent, as I was trying to explain to many things in same time and I may have not provided all the atention you deserved... Was that what I responded the issue that you meant? FkpCascais (talk) 04:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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Lucas in Cruz Azul
Hi, I was just completing this article, Lucas Marques da Silva and I found that the club where he is playing now, FK Smederevo, the official website at his page says that he played with Cruz Azul before coming to Serbia this summer. His page at srbijafudbal.net also mentions Cruz Azul and says he played there during 2011-12 but I can´t find anything to confirm it, neither his stats while there, and I also noteced he is not in your list, so I wandered if you have any idea of how could I check this or any other idea of helping me :) FkpCascais (talk) 00:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, many thanks Jogurney, I also googled around and I didn´t found anything connecting him to Cruz Azul, I am just wandering if he didn´t played there under some other name, you know Brazilians, some nickname or something... But anyway seems that he didn´t played in the league, that seems quite sure for now. Let me know if you find anything and many thanks! FkpCascais (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there JOGURNEY, how's it going?

after all your hard work in (trying to) reach(ing) out to User:Alexanderalgrim, you might be interested in reading this message (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman#Sad_x_2). "Interesting" no?

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Inacurrate comments about my article
I'm concerened that you didn't really read the article and it's references.

You made some very inacurrate comments:

1) Ventura County Star was used to reference soccer claims

- this never happened, the Ventura County Star articles were in reference to the subject being the founder of the Ventura Film Festival and listing the celebrity guests, nothing about soccer here

2) subject played in "probably not in a fully-pro league"

- reference 1 lists 3 teams in the Paulista Serie A and 1 team in the Brazilian Serie A, these are THE biggest leagues in Brazil and are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

- reference 7 lists the USL Pro Soccer League (USL 1 or 2) where the subject played 4 games in 2003, these are not the biggest leagues in the USA but they are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

- reference 3 lists that the subject played professionally in Brazil and Europe and so much so that he is able to orchestrate player transfers of local kids into the German Bundesliga

3) the official Sao Paulo FC fan site/blog from 1999 lists the same 3 teams as the Futebol Interior feature article, which I found on the first page of Futebol Interior

- reference 1 lists 3 teams in the Paulista Serie A and 1 team in the Brazilian Serie A, these are THE biggest leagues in Brazil and are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

- it also lists him as playing along site Sao Paulo FC star defender in Wilson

4) You're quick to support the deletion of this players article, 6 years later, when all the references are new and you clearly didn't read them (based on your mistaken claims) so I'm wondering if you have some kind of vendetta? 6 years is a long time for you to be doing this.

Thanks for your time, never the less. I respect your right to disagree.

Fussballspieler11 (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)'

You're making misleading comments on my article's deletion page.
My personal opinion doesn't matter, but I want you to know I think you are trying to mislead the people voting on the deletion discussion of my article. Multiple other editors have mentioned being suspicious of your intentions too.


 * User:Jogurney


 * 1) are you being misleading by saying a "few" minutes? if you read the ussoccerstats.us you'll see its not just a few, there are multiple fully professional games listed at USL Pro soccer web site
 * 2) there are plenty of reliable, 3rd party news references listing the Brazil A, and Paulista A teams, stating he played there, I suggest you read them, they are even FEATURES talking only about the subject and thus also satisfying the WP:GNG rules -> 1- futebol interior 3- Palos Verdes News 4- two professional team official blogs listing the Brazil A league 5- MANY other newspaper clippings from before the time of the Internet that were never available online so they dont come up in any searches
 * 3) there is other wide coverage of the subject in other well respected and reliable news and magazine publications, they are listed too, I suggest you read them too there are also MANY other newspaper clippings from before the time of the Internet that were never available online so they dont come up in any searches
 * 4) it appears you are focusing on diminishing my subject's career and his reputation by minimizing his notability by using words like few and amateur, when your statements are completely the opposite of exaggeration
 * 5) you are the main man in the deletion campaign, having been trying for 6 years to get his article deleted and you use the same wording as Lionmans Account "few" and "amateur" when these have already been struck out by a Wikipedia admin C.fred.


 * Myself and a few other honest Wikipedia editors/authors are already suspicious as to why you are spending 6 years targeting this subject when thousands of less notable player articles exist.(I listed just a few but don't want to be on here all day copy/pasting lesser american soccer players. Just go look in the american soccer player listing here on Wikipedia.  Why do you deny the rules of Wikipedia stating that a player is notable if having appeared in a fully professional league? and on and on and on... and you're saying the same thing as 6 years ago when you cleary muffed your first critique appearing to having not even read the new references.  Your actions are beyond my belief, honestly.Fussballspieler11 (talk) 21:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * A Feature on the Front Page of a major Brazilian Sporting News Agency
 * http://www.futebolinterior.com.br/news/259995+Ex-jogador_vira_empresario_e_comeca_a_ganhar_espaco_no_futebol

→Translated excerpt: "Em sua época de jogador, Jordan Older atuou pelo Paulista (1994), União São João (1994) e Portuguesa Santista (1998), além de diversos clubes profissionais da Europa e dos Estados Unidos. Em dezembro de 1994, a convite do técnico Bora Milutinovic, Jordan Older participou no campo de treinamento da seleção dos Estados Unidos. ... As fortes conexões de Jordan Older e da King Sports Management com muitos dos melhores clubes e técnicos de futebol da Europa, do Brasil e do mundo facilitaram as transferências de jogadores e treinadores." -> "In his time as a player, Jordan played for Paulista (1994), União São João (1994), Portuguesa Santista (1998), and several professional clubs in Europe and the United States. In December of 1994, invited by head coach Bora Milutinovic, Jordan Older participated in the training camp of the United States National Team. ... Jordan Older and King Sports Management's strong connections with many of the best clubs and coaches in Europe, Brazil, and the world help in his transfers of players and coaches."


 * Pro in Germany Print and Online Newspaper: Palos Verdes News:
 * http://www.pvnews.com/sports/article_ed96e25e-76da-11e2-a086-001a4bcf887a.html

→"Older, who has played professionally in Brazil and Europe, had founded King Sports Management and Ventura County FC to help young players realize their dream of playing professionally in Europe, and he believed that Ledesma possessed the talent to make the transition overseas.“I didn’t have anyone really helping me out,” Older said. “Nick and I were both playing on the same team, and we got to know each other . . . I thought that his talent could take him a little further so I recommended him.”


 * 3 games in the USL Pro League:
 * http://www.uslsoccer.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::72011+Elements/Display+E+47107+Stats/+23435
 * http://www.uslsoccer.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::72011+Elements/Display+E+47107+Stats/+23496
 * http://www.uslsoccer.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::72011+Elements/Display+E+47107+Stats/+23529


 * Brazil A and Paulista A and Swedish club and multiple teams in "Europe and Brazil":
 * http://www.futebolinterior.com.br/news/259995+Ex-jogador_vira_empresario_e_comeca_a_ganhar_espaco_no_futebol
 * http://www.lsk.se/default.asp?do=game_details&gameID=1111
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20020209014728/http://www.tricolornet.com.br/noticias/arquivo1999/990717.htm

→Translated excerpt: "Em sua época de jogador, Jordan Older atuou pelo Paulista (1994), União São João (1994) e Portuguesa Santista (1998), além de diversos clubes profissionais da Europa e dos Estados Unidos. Em dezembro de 1994, a convite do técnico Bora Milutinovic, Jordan Older participou no campo de treinamento da seleção dos Estados Unidos. ... As fortes conexões de Jordan Older e da King Sports Management com muitos dos melhores clubes e técnicos de futebol da Europa, do Brasil e do mundo facilitaram as transferências de jogadores e treinadores." -> "In his time as a player, Jordan played for Paulista (1994), União São João (1994), Portuguesa Santista (1998), and several professional clubs in Europe and the United States. In December of 1994, invited by head coach Bora Milutinovic, Jordan Older participated in the training camp of the United States National Team. ... Jordan Older and King Sports Management's strong connections with many of the best clubs and coaches in Europe, Brazil, and the world help in his transfers of players and coaches."

→Translated excerpt: "Jordan Older é atacante, tem 26 anos e possui passagens por três times paulistas, como União São João, Portuguesa Santista e Paulista, de Jundiaí, onde jogou com o zagueiro Wilson. - Mas recebi por e-mail muitas mensagens de torcedores do São Paulo. A maioria me apoiou - diz Jordan, que ficou esperançoso com uma das mensagens. - Um cara se disse observador do Fluminense e perguntou o que eu queria para jogar lá." -> "Jordan Older is a striker, age 26 and has played for three teams in the São Paulo, including União São João, Portuguesa Santista and Paulista of Jundiaí, where he played with the defender Wilson. - But I received many e-mail messages from fans of São Paulo FC. Most supported me - says Jordan, who was with a promising message. - One guy said he was an scout for Fluminense and asked if I wanted to play there."

→Translated excerpt: "Han heter Jordan Older och är en 33-årig amerikan som bl.a spelat i brasilianska högstaligan. Vi skall se vad han går för!" -> "His name is Jordan Older and is a 33-year-old American who among other things played in the Brazilian top division. We shall see what he can do!"


 * Sao Paulo FC blog and Ljungkille SK blog:
 * http://www.lsk.se/default.asp?do=game_details&gameID=1111
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20020209014728/http://www.tricolornet.com.br/noticias/arquivo1999/990717.htm


 * Subject's own Facebook showing team pictures and pre-Internet newspaper clippings
 * https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151768592107813.1073741827.546612812&type=1&l=c2eefe3921


 * Hundreds of threads and posts on the biggest soccer fan forum (bigsoccer.com) going back almost a decade, some talking only about the subject:

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howard best young gk in the world? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 05.09.2003 - 22 Beiträge - 17 Autoren I think this poll only showed many American and/or MU fans are regular internet surfers. You know Jordan Older was voted into the 1998 WC ... How do these guys get trials? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 31.07.2008 - 23 Beiträge - 15 Autoren If you guys know of anymore guys like mira mupier, jordan older, and anybody else, please add them. Anyway, Im not thinking of trying to get a ... Embarrassing Player Videos, Pictures, Websites, etc... | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 12.12.2004 - 16 Beiträge - 13 Autoren Then the post turned toward the "famous" Jordan Older." His website is rather comical for a 32 year old, but I can't say much since my skills ... Where's Lassiter? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men - Diese Seite übersetzen 08.04.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren SoFla Metro Member. Member Since: Jul 21, 2000. Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Where is Jordan Older? SoFla Metro, Apr 11, 2003 · #22 ... Top three US players of all time | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/.../top-three-us-players-of-all-ti...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 17.02.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren Jordan Older Chris Albright Fernando Clavijo. Clavijo's performance against Brazil in 1994 has to rate as one of the all-time best. MarioKempes ... Who is the best American Male soccer player ever?? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.09.2002 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Location: Orem UT. Club: Real Salt Lake. Country: United States. I can't believe you left out Jordan Older. www.jordanolder.com · ramckay, Sep ... Whtever happened to? Gaven, Martino, Marshall.& More | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren Gaven, Martino, Marshall.& More. Discussion in 'USA Men' started by 4mybroRRT, Feb 15, 2007. < Did Jordan Older ever play for the USA? | US in Copa ... Melchior Arnold - FC Chiasso [R] | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 31.05.2005 - 21 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Not exactly Jordan Older-esque, but his reports did tend to reflect well on himself. Surprised with your experience on here you've never heard ... Who are your favorite all time Yanks Abroad? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.04.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 22 Autoren ... might have signed with Santos, but again he never made it. The only American ever made it in Brazil is the one and only Jordan Older. Lloyd Sam's brother now NOT a YA, though he is abroad. | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.06.2005 - 4 Beiträge - 4 Autoren jri Red Card. Member Since: Sep 28, 2000. Location: boca. What about Jordan Older's brother, Gorden? jri, Jun 10, 2005.

Charlton: Paul Rachubka | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › Yanks Abroad - Diese Seite übersetzen 6 Beiträge - 6 Autoren ... Paul Rachubka. Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Enforcer, Sep 11, 2002. < Who is Jordan Older? | Hejduk: St. Gallen vs. Grasshoppers, 9/11 (R) > ... st. johns kid doing good in England | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › New York Red Bulls‎Diese Seite übersetzen 05.02.2004 - 11 Beiträge - 10 Autoren Outside of Jordan Older, the #1 person probably ever talked about on Yanks Abroad that "nobody" has ever heard of (aside from folks known to ... Do You Want To Play Soccer In Brazil???????? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA Men: Fans & Travel‎Diese Seite übersetzen 13.02.2005 - 5 Beiträge - 5 Autoren dfb547490 New Member. Member Since: Feb 9, 2000. Location: The Heights. Jordan Older to the white courtesy phone, please. dfb547490 ... Chase for Edgardo "El Gato" Obregon | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Youth National Teams‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.10.2008 - 35 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Gonna be a "star" people "drool" over in every city soon. Where are Jordan Older and Cheezi Meltz when you need them? Let the idiocy start. Missed player - Stefani Miglioranzi - Swindon Town | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 08.11.2004 - 9 Beiträge - 7 Autoren He's right up there other legends like Melchior Arnold and Jordan Older (and those two engaged in shameless self-promotion), and just a little ... You know you're a US soccer fan when... | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 01.03.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 24 Autoren ..you voted for boswell for Cosmopolitans bachelor of the year and you're not ashamed ...you just googled Jordan Older because you don't ... Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Insecticide, Sep 23, 2010. < Kyle Helton at Mjondalen [R] | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 Next > ... Manuel Brasil in Brazil? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.10.2004 - 3 Beiträge - 3 Autoren http://www.manausonline.com/esp_futebol_princesa.asp. Isn't the thread overdue for a report from Jordan Older? jri, Oct 19, 2004. David Baleno | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 01.11.2002 - 6 Beiträge - 4 Autoren ... and Andrew Shue went to Zimbabwe. Some guys went to Indonesia. And Jordan Older went to Brazil. BTW, great middle name.... Maredona. Freddie Adu coming to MLS... | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: General‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.12.2002 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Or the Jordan Older story... Bandeirante, Dec 29, 2002 · #25 · (You must log in or sign up to reply here.) Show Ignored Content. Page 1 of 2 1 2 ...

Beckham to end Career in MLS? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: News & Analysis‎Diese Seite übersetzen 11.04.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren I woud rather have Jordan Older than Beckham. Did you see those clips on his mom's website? Awesome!! pething101, Apr 11, 2006 · #14 ... Prince Tagoe to Seattle? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: Rumors‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.06.2011 - 22 Beiträge - 12 Autoren Member Since: Sep 21, 2001. Is this guy the Jordan Older of Ghana? LOL at FC Basel paying anyone 9 million a year. Mattbro, Jun 20, 2011. Philipakos To Make Debut This Weekend | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 02.02.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 13 Autoren I don't care if it comes from Jordan Older himself talking about how he is the greatest football player in the world. Seriously. England 66 and ... Players on BigSoccer | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 17.08.2002 - 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren Member Since: Jul 31, 2001. Location: Columbus, Ga. Club: West Ham United FC. Country: United States. I am Jordan Older. pething101, Aug ... FreddyAdu.com | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: Clubs › DC United‎Diese Seite übersetzen 04.02.2004 - 14 Beiträge - 11 Autoren ... such a high resolution scan of a Pele stamp? True. I've seen that site time and time again and I still have no clue who the hell Jordan Older is. Where is Ian? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.06.2003 - 11 Beiträge - 10 Autoren Country: United States. Originally posted by MadSirAlexxx his webpage is www.ianfeuer.com. Has an odd Jordan Older feel to it. pething101 ... I don't know what's up with Media People!!! | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Business and Media‎Diese Seite übersetzen 16.11.2004 - 2 Beiträge - 2 Autoren Country: United States. Hey, Lalas, you posted this in the wrong forum. And anyway, we all know the award should go to Jordan Older. Yanks Who Wash Out | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 02.09.2009 - 21 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Member Since: Feb 10, 2000. Location: The American Steppe. Club: Chicago Fire. Country: United States. What? No Jordan Older? All Europe or All MLS vs Jamaica | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/.../all-europe-or-all-mls-vs-jam...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 22.07.2004 - 8 Beiträge - 6 Autoren ... teenagers at various MFL team youth sides. Plus that guy in Nepal. JCE and Jordan Older should be allocated to this team. russ, Jul 22, 2004. Adu's Road to Citizenship | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Youth National Teams‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.09.2002 - 22 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Thought the OLDER brother wanted to play for Ghana. Whoa! For a minute there I thought Jordan Older was thinking about playing for Ghana.

Bryce Wegerle trial at Livingston | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 07.10.2003 - 8 Beiträge - 7 Autoren The next news we will hear is that he is playing for Katmandu in Nepal. Yeah, right! Maybe he is trying to follow in the footsteps of Jordan Older. soccer underground- whos who | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 22.05.2003 - 16 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Excape Goat Member. Member Since: Mar 18, 1999. Location: Hong Kong. Club: Real Madrid. Jordan Older. Excape Goat, May 22, 2003. Quaranta to United is denied by DC United.... | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 30.09.2002 - 16 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Jordan Older doesn't have a club does he? Maybe MLS beat MUFC to signing him knowing they wanted him so they could get a transfer fee ... Just for fun: Who is your favorite american player? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25.06.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 24 Autoren Excape Goat Member. Member Since: Mar 18, 1999. Location: Hong Kong. Club: Real Madrid. Jordan Older. Excape Goat, Jun 25, 2003 · #17 ... United States | - BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/soccer/.../tag/united-states/ - Diese Seite übersetzen ... and LA given weekend off for CCL Semi FinalsFri, 22 Mar, 2013 by profiled · USMNT Starters vs CRCFri, 22 Mar, 2013 by braun · Who is Jordan Older?Fri, 22 ... I have a question about FiFA all time greatest player award ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › The Beautiful Game‎Diese Seite übersetzen 21.02.2006 - 15 Beiträge - 8 Autoren The winner of the poll was a Brazil-based player named Jordan Older. Apparently, he or his mother voted him into the team. Excape Goat, Feb ... can arena call in a replacement for casey? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/.../can-arena-call-in-a-replacem...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.07.2005 - 15 Beiträge - 13 Autoren dfb547490 New Member. Member Since: Feb 9, 2000. Location: The Heights. JORDAN OLDER!!!!!1111one. dfb547490, Jul 10, 2005 · #9 ... Ricketts trying out with Crew | Dan Loney Blog | Featured BigSoccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../ricketts-trying-out-with-crew...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 07.03.2008 - Wonder how nancyb feels about Columbus… Anthony says: March 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm. What about Jordan Older? PS — CAP RICKETTS NOW! Non-South American players in South America? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Players & Legends‎Diese Seite übersetzen 08.01.2008 - 12 Beiträge - 10 Autoren Jordan Older (USA): somewhere in Brazil :) Luis Hernández(Mexico is considered North America): Boca Juniors Joe-Max Moore(USA) & Alexi ... YA most liked by his teams' fans | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 11.02.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 23 Autoren PaulGascoigne Member. Member Since: Feb 5, 2001. Location: Aotearoa/NZ. Jordan Older. PaulGascoigne, Feb 11, 2005.

Anyone heard of this guy? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: Rumors‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.11.2006 - 22 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Member Since: Nov 9, 2006. Location: ULTRA Traktorfactory. This guy is the new Jordan Older. TheRightHandofDoom, Dec 29, 2006 · #16 ... who will be the first big player signed? | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: General‎Diese Seite übersetzen 21.11.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 22 Autoren Member Since: Feb 21, 2000. Location: the LBC. Club: Los Angeles Galaxy. Country: United States. Jordan Older. Eric B, Nov 21, 2006. Giovanni Dos Santos vs Freddy Adu : Who's the best ?? | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Youth National Teams‎Diese Seite übersetzen 06.10.2005 - 100+ Einträge - 17 Autoren Location: chicago. Country: United States. They both suck compared to what Jordan Older and Connor did at that age. chad, Oct 6, 2005. Is Brian Mcbride the best soccer player in Concacaf pound by pound ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: General‎Diese Seite übersetzen 09.01.2003 - 84 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Member Since: Jul 31, 2001. Location: Columbus, Ga. Club: West Ham United FC. Country: United States. It must be done ... Jordan Older. i'm hoping for the death of the Yanks Abroad forum | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Yanks Abroad‎Diese Seite übersetzen 16.10.2004 - 20 Beiträge - 17 Autoren ... death of yanks abroad you instantly write off the possibility of the second coming of Jordan Older. Sad indeed. That was some good comedy. How come we don't see any MLS players or coaches post on bigsoccer ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: General - Diese Seite übersetzen 28.05.2003 - 55 Beiträge - 21 Autoren ... take long to digress. There are probably more MLS people who read this forum for a meeting of the minds than one thinks. I am Jordan Older. On Trial: Stefani Miglioranzi | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Los Angeles Galaxy‎Diese Seite übersetzen 07.07.2006 - 21 Beiträge - 16 Autoren I can't imagine what this signing would do the traffic in the Yanks Abroad and USMNT forums. Can Jordan Older, Michael Ricketts, or Giuseppe ... Ex-DCU Hayes traded | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: Clubs › DC United‎Diese Seite übersetzen 18.12.2002 - 23 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Country: United States. Originally posted by ursula. Best US player ever. Jordan Older is gonna kick that beautiful, sexy ass of yours. monster ... Giuseppe Rossi | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 13.10.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 24 Autoren Rahbiefowlah Member. Member Since: Oct 22, 2001. Location: San Diego. I heard he had a lover named jordan older. Rahbiefowlah, Oct 13 ... The Reverse of an All Star Team (this generation) | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../the-reverse-of-an-all-star-tea...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 14.09.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Country: United States. Michael Mason and David Wagner get into the lineup before Henderson or Maisonneuve. And how about Jordan Older ...

Who is the best American Soccer player ever? | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › USA › Soccer in the USA‎Diese Seite übersetzen 05.09.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 23 Autoren Air Jordan was named after Jordan Older. So he must be good. :) Two Italian Americans were capped by Italy before the Second World War. American skips MLS, Joins Aussie A-League | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: News & Analysis‎Diese Seite übersetzen 09.12.2004 - 24 Beiträge - 22 Autoren usagoal New Member. Member Since: Oct 19, 2000. Location: Las Vegas. I heard they also signed Jordan Older. usagoal, Dec 9, 2004. Real Salt Lake | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 14.10.2004 - 17 Beiträge - 11 Autoren Member Since: Oct 2, 2004. Location: Los Angeles. Mike Segroves said: Ladies and Gentlemen, Jordan Older. what? NinjaMonkey_USA, Oct ... SA Lists Freddy Adu As Draft Eligible | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › MLS: News & Analysis‎Diese Seite übersetzen 22.12.2002 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Member Since: Oct 30, 2000. Location: Sacramento, CA. Club: Los Angeles Galaxy. Country: United States. Where's Jordan Older? Elninho ... Giuseppe Rossi - One month and counting | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/.../giuseppe-rossi-one-month-a...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 02.01.2008 - 25 Beiträge - 21 Autoren Member Since: Jun 24, 1999. Location: chicago. Country: United States. Oh crap! This reminds me... when does Jordan Older turn 21? Strategy against Honduras and starting XI predictions | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../strategy-against-honduras-an...‎Diese Seite übersetzen 18.05.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Member Since: Feb 25, 2001. GK - Meola D - Goose, Albright, Kenny Arena, Regis MF - Jon Thorrington, Richie Williams, Jordan Older, Mathis Instead of playing desperate defense, Democrats might try ... www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Politics & Current Events‎Diese Seite übersetzen 04.01.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 10 Autoren These guys are like Kasey Keller and Brad Freidel for the DNC, while everyone else is Jordan Older. tcmahoney, Jan 4, 2005 · #13 ... Who is Jordan Older? | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Who is Jordan Older?‎Diese Seite übersetzen 11.09.2002 - 2 Beiträge - 2 Autoren Looks like he is a scout now http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/jul/10/jordan-older-sends-second-player-to-tryout-in-germ/ "This story is ... Jordan Seabrook trial with GAIS | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 2 Beiträge - 2 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by iamalfred, Sep 21, 2011. < Who is Jordan Older? | Kevin Bauer (SSV Jahn Regensburg) >. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2 ... Yanks Abroad of the 90's | Page 5 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Yanks Abroad of the 90's‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.03.2013 - 6 Beiträge - 4 Autoren sidefootsitter Member+. Member Since: Oct 14, 2004. PAW 2 said: ↑. Jordan Older........ Nice to meet you. SFS. sidefootsitter, Mar 30, 2013.

NJ Local to play for RBNY 2008 | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../nj.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 28.11.2006 - 6 Beiträge - 6 Autoren Are you Jordan Older in disguise!!!!!!!! Are you Jordan Older in disguise!!!!!!!! Are you Jordan Older!!!!!!!! Are you Jordan Older!!!!!!!! Are you ... Ronaldinho | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › The Beautiful Game‎Diese Seite übersetzen 17.02.2007 - 9 Beiträge - 9 Autoren The stunt double is a soccer player named Jordan Older. ... Jordan Older was a shy charactor and refused to appear in market campaigns. Another US youth goes pro -- Zach Archer | Page 2 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...us.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 04.02.2003 - 9 Beiträge - 9 Autoren Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA. CuriousGeorge said: Maybe Zach will be another Johnny Walker.... Maybe Zach will be another Jordan Older! Barbados 2nd Leg: who do you call up? (R) | Page 3 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...leg.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 15.06.2008 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Jordan Older, Michael Mason and David Wagner. ... Jordan Older, Michael Mason and David Wagner. ClevelandFC, Jun 16, 2008 · #51 ... Special Analysis of Reaction to Comments about Adu | Page 2 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...of.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 24.08.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Regis - Agoos - Onyewu --- Keller --- Bench: DMB, Convey, and, um, Jordan Older Coach: Bruce Arena. clashcityrocker, Aug 24, 2007. Is Kasey Keller out? | Page 3 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Is Kasey Keller out?‎Diese Seite übersetzen 05.06.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren Jordan Older will be starting for us on June 12th and the Czechs will have no idea what hit them. This is the best gambit BA has ever produced ... Preston to sign mystery Yank? | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25.01.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren TheRightHandofDoom Red Card. Member Since: Nov 9, 2006. Location: ULTRA Traktorfactory. It's Jordan Older. TheRightHandofDoom, Jan ... Yank kid at Torino? | Page 51 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Yank kid at Torino?‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.10.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Jordan Older is a graduate of Ventura High School and has studied Physics at UCLA. Jordan has been part of the US National Soccer Training ... Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Page 9 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Marc Pelosi at Liverpool‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 15 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 19, 2008. < Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Who is Jordan Older? >. B@W 11/13 part 2: Close doesn't cut it | Page 2 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../b.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 13.11.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 14 Autoren What was his name?! I can't reserve my dibs if I can't pull the name. ********. Screw it. I call Joe Enochs, just in case. Jordan Older I believe.

Dempsey to Fulham, What does this mean for USMNT? [R] - BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/...to.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 29.12.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Country: United States. former baller said: ↑. I am not a Eurosnob, I am American and I played on both continents. Jordan Older? superdave ... Szetela Loaned to Brescia (Updated, 1/29) (merged) | Page 17 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...to.../page-17‎Diese Seite übersetzen 11.11.2007 - 12 Beiträge - 9 Autoren Hanging with Jordan Older and Chris Carrieri? He coaches ~12 year olds with CASL. At least, he did last fall when they practiced at the field ... 2010 World Cup roster announced... | Page 3 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 08.05.2006 - 20 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Club: West Ham United FC. Country: United States. Don't call it a comeback... but I hear Jordan Older is working really hard for 2010. Samuel Petrone at Mjällby (Sweden) | Page 3 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 5 Beiträge - 2 Autoren Samuel Petrone at Mjällby (Sweden). Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by david_c, Feb 6, 2011. < Who is Jordan Older? | Jordan Seabrook trial with GAIS >. who should arena call in to replace mcbride? | Page 2 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...call.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 03.01.2003 - 22 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Member Since: Feb 5, 2001. Location: Aotearoa/NZ. crap. Originally posted by Scoey Jordan Older. Damn it! You beat me to it by mere seconds ... Yanks abroad quiz | Page 4 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Yanks abroad quiz‎Diese Seite übersetzen 31.01.2011 - 25 Beiträge - 9 Autoren Country: Israel. sidefootsitter said: ↑. No clue on FC Wängi-tangi. Jordan Older, the original Yank Abroad. :D. MHaifa1913, Feb 6, 2011 · #84 ... The 2003 #1 pick for Metros will be..... | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › New York Red Bulls‎Diese Seite übersetzen 12.09.2002 - 7 Beiträge - 7 Autoren Jordan Older. SoFla Metro, Sep 13, 2002 · #7 · (You must log in or sign up to reply here.) Show Ignored Content. < REMINDER: Road trip to DC ... Spector: West Ham vs. Sheffield Utd 11/25 (R) | Page 2 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...vs.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25.11.2006 - 1 Eintrag - 1 Autor Horrible or not, he could play at a position that we as a team are pretty horrible at, except for Jordan Older, of course. He would have gone had ... Peter Philipakos Updates? | Page 3 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Peter Philipakos Updates?‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25.01.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren 7- NYRB ...looks like #8 is coming up. At 24 years and change, that's a lot of clubs... look out Jordan Older! At least he scored a PK the other day ... Who isn't in Bruce's camp? | Page 5 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-5‎Diese Seite übersetzen 29.10.2002 - 20 Beiträge - 10 Autoren Originally posted by Mike Segroves Why isn't Jordan Older in camp? 'Cause whoever named him is trying to get him an audition with O-Town?

To The Creators of Pokemon & Other Japanimation | Page 2 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../to.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 04.12.2006 - 12 Beiträge - 7 Autoren ... who are into that sort of thing, I believe the relationship can be explained thusly: Japanese anime : DragonballZ :: US soccer : Jordan Older. Who is the greatest player to have played in the MLS? | Page 3 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 17.11.2011 - 25 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Mattbro Member+. Member Since: Sep 21, 2001. I go with Jordan Older. Mattbro, Nov 24, 2011 · #65 · Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer. An American in Nepal and Nepal Football Club investment discussion ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../page-10‎Diese Seite übersetzen 31.07.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Club: DC United. Country: United States. Jordan Older....paging Jordan Older...anybody have his mom's telephone number? Mason16, Jun 22 ... What's the real reason why John Harkes was left off the 98 roster ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 18.02.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 7 Autoren Club: DC United. Country: United States. dsp87260 said: ↑. Look......If you have names, name names. It was Jordan Older. Anthony, Feb 23 ... Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Page 4 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Marc Pelosi at Liverpool‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 19, 2008. < Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Who is Jordan Older? >. My favorite Yank Abroad is | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 22.04.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 24 Autoren Member Since: Mar 18, 1999. Location: Hong Kong. Club: Real Madrid. I thought this is another Jordan Older poll. Excape Goat, Jun 5, 2004. if 1860 get promoted, is Wolff back on radar for the nats ... www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 24 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Discussion in 'USA Men' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Feb 17, 2007. < USMNT to name new head coach? | Did Jordan Older ever play for the USA? > ... Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Page 14 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Marc Pelosi at Liverpool‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.12.2008 - 25 Beiträge - 14 Autoren < Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 14 of 24 < Prev 1 ← 12 13 14 15 16 → 24 Next > ... Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Page 3 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...for.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 12 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Insecticide, Sep 23, 2010. < Kyle Helton at Mjondalen [R] | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 3 of 4 < Prev 1 2 3 4 Next > ... A Wanderful Ream Has Come True: Tim Ream @ Bolton [R] | Page 36 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...r.../page-36 - Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Real Corona, Jan 24, 2012. < Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 36 of 55 < Prev 1 ← 34 35 36 37 ...

The Official US Men's Draft - 2009 Edition | Page 11 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...us.../page-11‎Diese Seite übersetzen 08.01.2009 - 25 Beiträge - 12 Autoren Over Jordan Older and nationally ranked Connor Chinn? Tough call, IMHO and would have been a mistake! Crap! Giving away names again. Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Page 21 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Marc Pelosi at Liverpool‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.12.2008 - 25 Beiträge - 15 Autoren < Thirsty for Revenge: Quentin Westberg at Evian [R] | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 21 of 24 < Prev 1 ← 19 20 21 22 23 → 24 Next > ... Which Yank Abroad Earns His First Cap Against Scotland? | Page 2 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...his.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 28.10.2005 - 8 Beiträge - 8 Autoren You people are just a bunch of Jordan Older Haters. I guess Arena has never seen the tape Jordan's mom made. Crazy_Yank, Oct 30, 2005. A Wanderful Ream Has Come True: Tim Ream @ Bolton [R] | Page 41 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...r.../page-41 - Diese Seite übersetzen 25 Beiträge - 12 Autoren Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Real Corona, Jan 24, 2012. < Marc Pelosi at Liverpool | Who is Jordan Older? > Page 41 of 55 < Prev 1 ← 39 40 41 42 ... Have we all forgotten | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Have we all forgotten‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.02.2004 - 10 Beiträge - 9 Autoren Jordan Older Really, have we all forgotten? dheck, Mar 2, 2004 · #35 · (You must log in or sign up to reply here.) Show Ignored Content. Who are your favorite all time Yanks Abroad? | Page 3 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...are.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.04.2005 - 11 Beiträge - 10 Autoren Jordan Older ...and the winner is (and it wasn't close): 1. Dontavious Fleming For people who actually currently play in good leagues, etc. 5. U-20 Roll Calls (again) | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › U-20 Roll Calls (again)‎Diese Seite übersetzen 13.03.2006 - 14 Beiträge - 10 Autoren GersMan said: Jordan Older told me all of you guys' sources are full of crap! :D hey unclesam - are you a cool guy, or just the son of a cool guy? B@W 6/30 II: We are who we are and that's all that we are [R ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../b-w-6.../page-11‎Diese Seite übersetzen 30.06.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 7 Autoren Member Since: Jun 29, 2002. Location: San Diego. FT you know it's going bad when Jordan Older gets a brace on you. Treetaliano, Jun 30 ... US 2006 WC Roster announced | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 09.12.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Reserves: Jovan Kirovski That's about all I've got so far. Add: Dontavious Fleming Jordan Older Jonathon Carlos Elliot. usagoal, Dec 9, 2003. B@W 6/20 [R] : argentina vs the dutch | Page 12 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...w.../page-12‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.06.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 8 Autoren But the US makes it thru to the finals, where a hat trick by Jordan Older gives the US its first ever WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Hmmm. That ...

Who is the next US darkhorse star? | Page 3 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/...is.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 31.05.2003 - 19 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Zealot New Member. Member Since: Apr 7, 2000. Originally posted by ZenCarver. Three pages so far and no one's said it.... Jordan Older? Greatest YA story of all-time? | Page 2 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/...ya.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 20.08.2010 - 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren MarioKempes Member. Member Since: Aug 3, 2000. Location: Raleigh, NC. Jordan Older is a living legend. MarioKempes, Aug 24, 2010 · #29 ... Bruce Considering 12-14 YAs | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › Yanks Abroad - Diese Seite übersetzen 29.11.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren This will never end until he is capped by someone, or he turns out to be Jordan Older (hell freezes over). Will it? jägermeister, Nov 29, 2005. Lance Armstrong: Greatest American Athlete? | Page 2 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 16.07.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 8 Autoren That ESPN list is a joke - I don't see Jordan Older on it anywhere. Anyway, one thing I'll say is that I don't believe for a minute that Lance is ... Ricketts | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA › USA Men‎Diese Seite übersetzen 30.11.2004 - 28 Beiträge - 21 Autoren ... reason, Dontavious Fleming, Jordan Older, Melchior Arnold, Paul Rachubka, Stefani Miglioranzi--though he's apparently still out ther, etc.). B@W 10/12/2007 Just in case, crack the case, head case | Page 13 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../page-13 - Diese Seite übersetzen 12.10.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Member Since: Feb 14, 1999. Location: Metronatural. Nice read, but: Gumball Rally : Cannonball Run :: Brad Freidel : Jordan Older. tcmahoney ... Charlie Davies on remarkable path to recovery | Page 2 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...on.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 25.01.2010 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren Long time lurker. Any Jordan Older fans out there? First dip in the pond. This story is quite simply fascinating. Best of luck to this kid, and yes, ... Mathis retires from International Soccer | Page 2 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 06.06.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 19 Autoren Guest. Member Since: This just in: Jordan Older: Don't call it a comeback - I've been here for years. ::::::, Jun 6, 2006 · #44 ... Who isn't in Bruce's camp? | Page 4 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-4‎Diese Seite übersetzen 29.10.2002 - 25 Beiträge - 22 Autoren str8ruckus New Member. Member Since: Sep 10, 2001. Location: Phoenix, Az US. Jordan Older isn't... str8ruckus, Oct 30, 2002 · #93 ... Panic's 49th try at the coolest thread[R] especially of D3 games ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../panics.../page-5‎Diese Seite übersetzen 22.11.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 7 Autoren Location: Columbus, Ga. Club: West Ham United FC. Country: United States. Dont make me break out the Jordan Older reference... pething101 ...

Galarcep: Johnson Still Needs To Mature | Page 5 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...still.../page-5‎Diese Seite übersetzen 17.02.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 13 Autoren I would have used "Rudy Galindo's Immune System", but they have a character limit. Classic. Jordan Older.....Where art thou? jägermeister, Feb ... Goff: DC to sign "local" player? | Page 4 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../goff.../page-4‎Diese Seite übersetzen 21.08.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren Country: United States. Knave said: Dag nabbit! Can't we just bring back Kevin Ara? Is Jordan Older available? Anthony, Aug 25, 2005 · #98 ... USA v Ghana Pre-Game Thread | Page 12 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../usa.../page-12‎Diese Seite übersetzen 18.06.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren But the US makes it thru to the finals, where a hat trick by Jordan Older gives the US its first ever WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Hmmm. That ... U-20 Roll Calls (again) | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Youth National Teams‎Diese Seite übersetzen 13.03.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 13 Autoren Jordan Older told me all of you guys' sources are full of crap! :D hey unclesam - are you a cool guy, or just the son of a cool guy? If I disagree ... Times Of London says Onyewu NOT in Newcastle future plans | Page 2 ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...of.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 23.03.2007 - 25 Beiträge - 17 Autoren Now, Belgium is just Belgium and rumors are just rumors, but this isn't Jordan Older posting his juggling videos on You Tube. And Newcastle is ... Willy Roy: I believe that Bruce should resign | Page 2 | Soccer ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...roy.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.06.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren Jordan Older agrees, bruce arena should resign. We've already lost some of the WC bandwgoneers. I suspect Illini will be off here in the next ... Bruce drops some bombs | Page 15 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Bruce drops some bombs‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.09.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 15 Autoren ... Robert Earnshaw, Frankie Hejduk, Shalrie Joseph, Richie Kotschau, Jake Sagare, Cameron Knox, Junior Agogo, Mia Hamm, Jordan Older. Cobi Jones leaves L.A. Galaxy for NY Cosmos and Eric Cantona is ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../threads/.../page-3‎Diese Seite übersetzen 10.01.2011 - 25 Beiträge - 18 Autoren Although I do like the Jordan Older reference. :D I also do not have a dog in this fight, but I think some have a problem with reality in this thread, ... USA Men | Page 381 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › Forums › USA‎Diese Seite übersetzen Did Jordan Older ever play for the USA? Excape Goat, Feb 18, 2007. Replies: 12. Views: 2,317. baszdmeg: Feb 22, 2007. 4mybroRRT ... DC United = Hamburger and Pepsi | Page 9 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/.../page-9‎Diese Seite übersetzen 30.09.2005 - 25 Beiträge - 14 Autoren Member Since: Feb 22, 1999. When I got to the restaurant, this young guy was standing outside telling everyone to try the Jordan Older...saying ...

Myernick Calls 25 into Last Under-23 Camp Prior to Olympic ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/.../page-4‎Diese Seite übersetzen 30.12.2003 - 25 Beiträge - 12 Autoren ... at the combined National Team camps - U18, U20, U23 and the Men's Nat'l team - guess who won?????? Landon Donovan or Jordan Older. Philipakos To Make Debut This Weekend | Page 2 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/community/...to.../page-2‎Diese Seite übersetzen 02.02.2006 - 25 Beiträge - 16 Autoren I don't care if it comes from Jordan Older himself talking about how he is the greatest football player in the world. Seriously. England 66 and ... Bruce drops some bombs | Page 7 | Soccer Forum | BigSoccer www.bigsoccer.com › ... › Bruce drops some bombs‎Diese Seite übersetzen 27.09.2004 - 25 Beiträge - 20 Autoren ... Robert Earnshaw, Frankie Hejduk, Shalrie Joseph, Richie Kotschau, Jake Sagare, Cameron Knox, Junior Agogo, Mia Hamm, Jordan Older. Does science make belief in God obsolete? | Page 11 | Soccer Forum ... www.bigsoccer.com/.../does.../page-11‎Diese Seite übersetzen 19.06.2008 - 25 Beiträge - 10 Autoren I forgot to mention Jordan earlier. Did someone say "Jordan Older"? I guess him mom doesn't keep the site up anymore. Mr. Warmth, Aug 8, ... Mehr von Mel Brennan

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Articles for deletion/Emiliano Tade
Can you look at the discussion about Emiliano Tade? I'm really surprised that someone who is arguably the best player on the best team in the Oceanic Champions League, and all the media coverage that brings, has such a one-sided AFD debate. I noticed you hadn't weighed in on the debate that's now in it's 7th day, and you tend to be very diligent at checking sources. I know I tend to argue for some lost causes ... but this one seemed much more cut-and-dry than most of the lost causes I come across, and is approaching the end of the AfD period. Nfitz (talk) 17:58, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Umut Kekıllı for deletion
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Hello
I have seen you improved Romanian football before. Can you help me with Liga II seasons and Cupa Romaniei seasons, or creating old players / teams. Thanks ! I already started.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Liga II
Liga II - there are a lot of seasons missing, if everyone will choose one, all the seasons will be done by the end of the year, so please start with the second edition, the first one is already done summarily.

I have also references in ENGLISH: and, for each season.

Just add the information in Wikipedia tables, I will correct if you do not tag correct the teams. Thank you !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 15:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Liga II
Please, create one more seasons, I see you edit the 1979–80 Divizia B. Thanks!

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Proposed deletion of Al Jabalain


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Speedy deletion nomination of Deportivo Jalapa (disambiguation)


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Foreign players lists
Hello Jogurney, I am pinging creators and active editors of the lists found at Category:Lists of expatriate association football players because of the discussion where your opinion would be welcomed. The discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football. Best regards, FkpCascais (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)