User talk:Johannes Rohr

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Nenetsia
Hi, Johannes! I am a bit at a loss having just read this comment of yours. It is not only that google returns 13,000 hits for "Nenetsia -wikipedia" (although, admittedly, some of Wikipedia mirrors are not completely filtered out by using this syntax), but Encarta's article about this autonomous district is titled "Nenetsia", so this is by no means an "innovative invention" of some fellow Wikipedian. Your comment will be much appreciated.&mdash;Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 20:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Khazar maps
Unfortunately I did not keep copies of these maps once they were uploaded to Wikipedia. I should have done so. Why not just take the maps, download them to your computer, and edit them through a graphics editing program? The old text could be filled on in colors matching the background and new text inserted. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 22:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Re : WP:GDS
Thanks for your clarification on the proposal. I'm not a native speaker, and had troubles trying to translate the German document. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
For your very insightful and thoughtful contributions to the RfC at the Talk:List of indigneous peoples page. I fully agree with the majority of what you wrote. On the issue of self-identification, I have highlighted a couple of sources on the talk in response to your comments, and could work to locate more. I just remembered too, there's this document: which created quite a buzz in Israel just recently. Palestinians' indigeneity amongst themselves is self-evident. The relative newness of efforts to be formally identified as such among mainstream Palestinian representative organizations before the international community indicates how slow we were to realize that for others, it was not that clear-cut. With the ongoing failure of Oslo and the fading lustre of the two-state solution, it seems the movement towards recognition of their indigenous rights within a federal state framework might be preferred over a two-state solution so as to finally unite the community now separated between Israel, the occupied territories, the refugee camps and the Diaspora and end the historical injustice that has been done. Tiamut 15:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Johannes. I am deeply sorry to have disturbed the tranquility at the Talk:List of indigenous peoples page by opening the discussion on Palestinian indigeneity. I have done my utmost to keep to the issues at hand, but seem to be enduring the regular onslaught of POV accusations from my pro-Zionist or pro-Israeli counterparts. Could you check in on the discussion there and let me know if I am being too provocative/pushy in my approach? Being a neutral third party with deep knowledge of indigenous peoples' issues, I would very much appreciate it. Tiamut 18:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

...and from me

 * Hi Johannes, apologies for the delay in reply, unfortunately from just after contacting you for your comments on the topic I have been offline from wikipedia the past week or so. I am very glad that you were able to add your knowledgeable and reasoned insights to the fray, and I appreciate the effort and care you have taken to explain what seems to confuse a lot of folks unfamiliar with the indigenous rights and peoples' forums and movements. Sorry that the experience turned out to be so exasperating, I can not think of any better way to encapsulate the main points than your responses there, and I am in admiration of your patient approach.


 * Catching up now on the dialogue at the talk page, it seems there's been a respite for the past couple of days now so we can hope that you've been able to convince or at least dissuade the protagonists from carrying out an inappropriate debate there- we shall see, and if things further develop then might have to reassess, though I'm at a loss to know how better to clarify the distinction between the specific concept and the general adjective. I'm surprised at how frequently I've encountered this confusion on wikipedia, which I suppose reflects in any case an unfortunate general lack of public awareness and appreciation of indigenous peoples' concerns.


 * FWIW I think at least that Tiamut has acted in reasonable good faith in the debate, and has at least understood the concept and attempted to back up claims with references. Although my knowledge of indigenous peoples' issues is much less direct than yours, I think your observations are quite apposite and agree that Palestinian representations to "indigeneity" cited are more so relevant to statehood aspirations than throwing their hands up as indigenous peoples on a par with Sami, San, and Sioux.


 * Once again, thanks for your help, I at least have a better and more nuanced appreciation for the concept from your explanations. Cheers, --cjllw | TALK  09:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Ravi Zacharias
FYI. I made a few more changes to that section of his article. I also added a few more comments here: Talk:Ravi_Zacharias. Best wishes,  Jwesley 78 22:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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Society for Threatened Peoples International Secretary General being investigated for Embezzlement of organizations money
Johannes, even so you work for the Society for Threatened Peoples, you cannot simply delete the facts that someone else included in wikipedia, with references of credible news articles and stating a simple fact of what the prosecutor said.

What you removed: Since 2012, german state prosecutor's are investigating Tilman Zülch, the Secretary-General of two organizations, the Society for Threatened Peoples (STP) and Society for Threatened Peoples International (STPI), for embezzlement of money. The accused is alleged that he enriched himself at the expense of the organization's assets, announced state prosecutor Frank-Michael Laue. In addition, Tilman Zülch is accused of having given money to other individuals and therefore to have harmed the organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrosseWelt (talk • contribs) 16:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, neither do I work for that organisation, nor did I delete this information from the article. these are the edits I made to this article. I did not remove anything, I only added a sentense summing up their public response to the allegations. The deletion was made by another user, who is unlike myself apparently associated with the Society for treatened peoples. --Johannes Rohr (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Johannes, you do not tell the truth when you say you are not affiliated with the Society for Threatened Peoples that is under investigation for embezzlement of moneys. I searched your name on their website, and you appear in numerous sites. Therefore you have personal interests that are reflected in your additional text that you added on Wikipedia, that are not reflecting facts, but "feelings" of Society for Threatened Peoples employees -  that they stated in a news article. Fact is: The Society for Threatened Peoples boss is under investigation, because the board of directors uncovered that he and his employees embezzled money.Therefore your argument that the Society says that they had two tax accountants is irrelevant, because - again - the board of directors uncovered money laundering and theft of assets paid by member ship fees for human rights work, the reason why this is now in court ! Stop to volunteer for their self promotion and face the facts, as much as you want to continue to be published on their website. You are well come to add the court ruling, but I guess if it is against the organization that you are associated with, you will not include those facts. GrosseWel (talk) 09:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Johannes Rohr, STOP covering up for the GfbV (Society for Threatened Peoples) embezzlement of money that is currently at COURT !!!!
I just see that you persistently add un factual text to the section at Society for Threatened Peoples. The court decided that the board of directors is remaining in place, and just because the board of directors did their ethical job, and investigated and found out that over a million had been stolen by the president, (documents at court ) and had the moral to actual file the evidence, made them the target of the accused.

You are involved and associated with the accused, so STOP adding wrong information just to make them look "good", such as miss informing that "the former" board,. . . .they are, legally, by court, by the law, still the board. The very ones that uncovered the terrible un-ethical reality, that this so called human rioghts organization seriously embezzled money, and instead of dowing what you do, sit put, and wait for the court case, instead of making your hand dirty as well. ((somombeia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samombeia (talk • contribs) 14:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Samombeia, You need to stop this harrassment. It is not GfBV that is accused but Tilman Zülch, and it is an accusation and not a conviction. This does not justify this repeated harrassment of an editor. Wikipedia is not sensationalist and does not give undue weight to unproven accusations. Specifially we require editors to assume good faith in relation to other editors. Your actions is about the fursthest from good faith possible. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 14:13, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Dear sock puppet, could you please provide some evidence, that I am "involved and associated" with Tilman Zülch. FYI: In my entire life I have met him once briefly. I doubt he has ever heard or read my name. If you have any evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it! Apart from that, the information I have included into the article is properly sourced and completely unbiased: the mere fact that the GfbV has rejected the allegations. I have not written that the allegations are either true or false, I have simply stated the fact that they have publicly rejected them, without making any judgement on whether or not they have done so rightfully. I entirely fail to see what makes you so excited about this rather trivial addition. But apparently you are a man with a mission. --Johannes Rohr (talk) 14:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Johannes Rohr, STOP covering up for the GfbV (Society for Threatened Peoples) embezzlement of money that is currently at COURT !!!!
I just see that you persistently add un factual text to the section at Society for Threatened Peoples. The court decided that the board of directors is remaining in place, and just because the board of directors did their ethical job, and investigated and found out that over a million had been stolen by the president, (documents at court ) and had the moral to actual file the evidence, made them the target of the accused.

You are involved and associated with the accused, so STOP adding wrong information just to make them look "good", such as miss informing that "the former" board,. . . .they are, legally, by court, by the law, still the board. The very ones that uncovered the terrible un-ethical reality, that this so called human rights organization seriously embezzled money, and instead of doing what you do, better sit put, and wait for the court case, instead of making your hand dirty as well. ((samombeia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samombeia (talk • contribs) 14:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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