User talk:JohnElyDescendant

AfC notification: Draft:John Ely has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:John Ely. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:45, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Ely (surgeon) (February 11)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 03:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Aaron Burr. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Museum site has no particular special connection to subject of article. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

2nd Submission
The first submission was rejected because it was copied from another source, which indeed it was. I am a descendant of John Ely and about 10 years ago I wrote up a biography of Ely for a family history compendium which was distributed to about 2 dozen family members. I submitted an abridged version of what I had written before. So I researched several wiki bios of Rev. War veterans and rewrote my work, hopefully in a format which is more acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnElyDescendant (talk • contribs) 02:05, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of John Ely (surgeon)


The article John Ely (surgeon) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "COI article, not nearly enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG."

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion
I suppose that my admission that I am a descendant of John Ely led to the COI aspersion. I certainly became interested in John Ely when I discovered that I was a very distant descendant. But I believe that the citation to Goodrich's "Recollections of a Lifetime" is sufficient evidence for the inclusion of a bio of John Ely in Wikipedia. I do plan to add some additional citations, probably by next weekend. JohnElyDescendant (talk) 00:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is now full of citations to WP:RS. And the AFD is now history.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:32, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of John Ely (surgeon) for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/John Ely (surgeon) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, JohnElyDescendant. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page John Ely (surgeon), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. - wolf  18:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Apparently John Ely (surgeon) has lived on in memory. And in Wikipedia. Don't let this experience deter you from editing. Cheers.

7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 22:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC) 