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This [deletion of ringtones chart]
is on the Portuguese WP though. Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 15:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * So? We're on the English Wikipedia. Go take a look at some of the German WP music articles; you'll have a heart attack seeing what passes for sourcing over there. The Spanish one is worse, as far as I can tell. There's a recent discussion here on en:WP about ringtones, and a couple editors chimed in against including them. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Diff WPs have different rules?! Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 15:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure! The pillars are the same, but think about how other guidelines are made: through consensus within the community. I'm not in the pt:WP community (and I don't speak Portuguese) so when there's a discussion about what charts to include on discographies, or whether references should be in columns or not, or whether aCharts.us is a reliable source, I won't be offering my invaluable advice. The Brazilians and Portuguese don't know about our discussions here on en:WP (except for those few folks who bounce back and forth).
 * I have edited at the German Wikipedia (and Spanish, I think), but it's tricky because I don't know all of their local rules and customs. It's kind of a re-learning process when I'm over there, because WP:DISCOGSTYLE and MOS:DASH are redlinks to them (probably). The es:WP folks do seem to have copied our WP:CHARTS page though.
 * So, Calvin, do you speak Portuguese? How is it that you were over at pt:WP &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 15:53, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol no I don't, but I worked out what it mean't, with regard to the chart. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 16:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Soviet Politburo FL review
I've responded to you're comments at the review page. --TIAYN (talk) 11:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey
You know you said that songs that chart in different years have to be in different tables now, do I have to change anything for S&M (song). Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 18:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes! You must, must, must:
 * Change the table heading to 2011 (from 2010-2011)
 * Change CZE week param to 21 to support peak of 8
 * Change IRL week param to 6 to support peak of 3
 * Know that I can't verify Italy at all, so I don't know when it peaked. I'd be surprised if it hit big in Italy way before the rest of Europe got it, though, (and the ref points to August) so I assume it to be 2011.
 * Know that the Korean source is likewise useless to me. I have to hack the page just to see under the overlay, and then it doesn't seem to give me an actual chart position. When in doubt (I guess) assume it's 2011. I can't prove it even charted there, though. :-(
 * Remove NLD Single Top 100 (we've got the Dutch Top 40
 * Change Scotland date param to 2011-03-12 to support peak of 3
 * Change UK R&B date param to 2011-03-05 to support peak of 1
 * Change the ref for Canada to something useful, like the page at http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/rihanna/chart-history/658897?f=793&g=Singles. By the way, that page says that the song that hit #1 in CAN was the remix with Britney. The regular, original song hit only #3.
 * Think about changing the "Charts" sub-section heading to "Weekly charts", since there's a "Year-end charts" sub-section, too.
 * Look on the page for duplicate refs. I see several, as refs 31 to about 45 seem to overlap with the refs 96 to 124 or so. Check into reusing the named singlechart refs up in the article body.
 * It appears that on all of the charts where "S&M" appeared in 2010, the song later moved up at least a little during 2011. So no table splitting necessary. The stuff I mentioned above is a bit of work itself, but that needs to be done either way. Sorry you asked? Cheers (and good luck; lemme know if you want help) &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:08, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha. Okay thanks. I'll do it tomorrow. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 00:10, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

DSTM
Hey Pickney. Should I separate this into three charts? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  08:51, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, er, no: There should be five tables: three for the weekly charts, and two for the year-end charts (plus Decade-end and certs). If you don't split them, look what happens to the middle headings when you sort. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:07, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

RIAA down?
Is the RIAA site working for you? I know it was hacked and taken down the other day, but reports I've read say that the site should be back up now: however, I can't access it. If it is genuinely down everywhere, this is massively incovenient. I Am Rufus  &bull;  Conversation is a beautiful thing.  17:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yikes, no, it's not up for me at the moment, either. I've tried http://riaa.com/ and http://www.riaa.com/ both but they just time out. I hadn't heard about them getting hacked (although I can imagine the RIAA receives such attempts regularly). It would be nice if somebody would hack the site to allow title and artist parameter passing in the URLs, but leave the site up and running. I guess that'd be too much to hope for though. ;-) &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

re: Proposed deletion of Rebelle
Ever head of Google? Thanks.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course. Before I added the PROD to the article I made sure to search for other indications of notability outside the single, inadequate reference that was provided. I did indeed use Google as my search engine. I did not find "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (phrase used at WP:GNG). In fact, I found almost nothing about this unfinished film. No critics have written articles about it. It isn't historically notable. It has not been widely distributed. It fetures not one single notable actor. In fact, even the director is a redlink on the article page. This is why my PROD mentioned that it failed bot WP:GNG and WP:NF.
 * I hope you will reread the PROD notice you deleted (I left a copy on your Talk page) and follow the links to the notability guidelines I provided. This film is not currently worth its own WP article. Now, if it wins an award at te Berlinale, then we've got something, but we don't even know if the film will be finished by then.
 * Finally, I'd like to say I don't appreciate your characterization of my PROD as "idiotic" in your edit summary. It feels like a personal attack to me and I hope you'll be more courteous in dealing with your fellow Wikipedians in the future.
 * Your question about whether I have heard of Google is hardly helpful, by the way. And if you have heard of Google you could surely use it to whip up a couple of example of notable critics' reviews of the work, or reliable, independent examination of the work underlining its notability. Currently, the article lacks this (even after your snide note here) and so you haven't dealt fulfilled what I consider your responsibility to prove notability. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's super!  Lugnuts  (talk) 10:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of members of the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the 1960s/archive1
Can you take a look at the review page now? I've addressed you're comments. --TIAYN (talk) 09:35, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you please take a look now? --TIAYN (talk) 10:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Does the weekly charts table need to be changed to separate year ones on Loud (Rihanna album)? Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 16:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If the peaks came in separate years (as the combined heading now claims) then yes. (And sorry for the long absence.) &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 16:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Production discographies, and ringtones
Having looked through the generally sprawling, untidy and very-difficult-to-follow The Neptunes discography, I think that it may be an idea to establish some sort of design guidelines for production discographies as well, similar to WP:DISCOGSTYLE: apart from a few exceptions, most of them are simply written as plain lists, and are completely unsourced. I'm thinking of some ideas, but if you have any suggestions, they would be appreciated. Also, I am aware that we don't list US ringtone certifications in discographies currently. I can see why people wouldn't want them included, as it is unclear whether buying a ringtone is the same as buying an actual single, but I actually think they should be. The way I see it, a ringtone is just another format that music can be purchased as: besides, we list the "Standard" and "Digital" certifications under the same "RIAA" heading, as if they're the same sort of certification, when they're two completely different formats. UPDATE: Please ignore the crossed out bit: have read about this at the talk page of WP:DISCOGSTYLE. I Am Rufus  &bull;  Conversation is a beautiful thing.  16:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC) That's just what I think, anyway. If I've missed some obvious logic here, please tell me. Thanks! I Am Rufus  &bull;  Conversation is a beautiful thing.  14:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The Neptunes produced Wasting Time by Brent Faiyaz & Drake, we need to stop deleting peoples post before researching it Dasmith32 (talk) 11:07, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi
How can I lock an Article Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fidelove (talk • contribs) 18:30, 26 July 2012‎ (UTC)
 * Only editors with administrator rights can change page protection. See WP:PP for details. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

FL Thanks
On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for your editorial efforts that has contributed to the recent WP:FL promotion of Kanye West discography --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)FL Thanks

You're still here!
I haven't crossed paths with you for a while. Thought you might want to be a guinea pig for BillboardURLbyName. While working my way through the last Billboard change, I figured that a couple of templates to help discography editors could be useful. will return the integer number associated with that BillboardChart, and will return a URL for that chart for that artist, i.e.  will generate. The chart name mapping is documented at BillboardChartNum. If you want to have real fun, peek under the hood of BillboardID: I'm truly ashamed of myself.

There's no fancy ref formatting or anything: just the raw URL. That way there shouldn't be any arguments about appearance to keep people from using them, and I can get them all to autoupdate the next time Billboard changes everything.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:47, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Santana
Hello JohnFromPinchney,

since you commented at the lists's first nomination I thought you might be interested in reviewing it again against the criteria. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 20:09, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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