User talk:John B123/Archive 30

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:02, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Review GAP Associates
Can you please review the mentioned page? —Krishna&#39;s flute (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Krishna&#39;s flute, apologies for not getting back to you sooner, I've been busy offline. The article need to be added to some content categories. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Can you please check it and review? It’s been so long. Krishna&#39;s flute (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * , as I stated above and also tagged the page, it needs to be added to some content categories. --John B123 (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Gaw Capital Partners
Hi John. Created this page since I noticed quite a few articles were redlinking to it.

Submitting for your review.

Thanks. -Imcdc (talk) 14:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, it looks OK. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John! -Imcdc (talk) 02:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

why did you re-edit my sex worker edit?
any reason? Volkan1881 (talk) 09:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Changing the lead to A gay worker is ... doesn't improve the article. --John B123 (talk) 22:28, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

AMTD Digital
Hi John. Submitting this article for your review. This one became quite notable overnight so would appreciate if you could handle as soon as you're available to do so. Thanks!

-Imcdc (talk) 16:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, it looks OK to me. Regards.--John B123 (talk) 22:50, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated -Imcdc (talk) 01:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


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Hi. You may wish to add this to your user page: Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:37, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Comr Melody Idoghor, thanks. Sorry for not replying earlier, I don't seem to have a lot of time to get on WP lately. Glad you are finding the site rewarding and good luck with the NPP School. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message
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For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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NPP Award for 2020
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Requesting your review on these two pages
Hi John,

Noticed you have been quite busy with stuff outside wikipedia lately. When you do have time would you mind reviewing these two pages? No rush.


 * Battle of Fakashan
 * Battle of Laoshan

Thanks -Imcdc (talk) 04:33, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, they both look fine. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:54, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John. -Imcdc (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Obadiah Poundage letter‎
Hi John. I carried out the merge indicated by the close of Articles for deletion/Obadiah Poundage. See here:. Having done that, I felt the amount of information in the Porter (beer) article was disproportionate, and left a message on the talk page: Talk:Porter_(beer) indicating the situation, and proposing that a suggestion made in the AfD to move the article to Obadiah Poundage letter‎ should be carried out. After several days, with no comments, I carried out the move. So the closure outcome has been carried out, has been seen to not work, and the secondary solution indicated has been carried out. Given the circumstances, would you have any objection to Obadiah Poundage letter‎ being restored? SilkTork (talk) 11:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi SilkTork. Whilst inclusion of the letter in Porter (beer) may be disproportionate, recreating the article under a new title isn't the solution. Prior to my reversion, Obadiah Poundage letter‎ would have met the criteria for speedy deletion under WP:G4 as a recreation of Obadiah Poundage which was deleted at Articles for deletion/Obadiah Poundage. My suggestion is that rather that including the whole letter in Porter (beer), a summary of the letter should be added. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:35, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your input, John. I won't take up any more of your time. I'll discuss the matter with the others involved in the AfD to see what can be agreed as the best solution. Regards SilkTork (talk) 22:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election
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Merge close
On Talk:World's second oldest profession, in your edit summary, you wrote that "Discussion can only be closed by an uninvolved editor", but WP:MERGECLOSE states Any user, including the user who first proposed the merger, may close the discussion and move forward with the merger. Schazjmd  (talk)  13:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that was the page I was looking at for guidance. I asked the user who opposed the merger on their talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ttocserp#Oldest-Profession_Merger). They agreed given that the smaller page be merged into a final section of the larger one. This is the first time I've merged two pages, and I wanted to do it by-the-book, I'm sorry I didn't realize only one discussion page was allowed. Maltice (talk) 14:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * If you read the rest of the sentence you quote from WP:MERGECLOSE it states there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge, neither of which is the case here. --John B123 (talk) 18:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @John B123 I closed the merger discussion because there was unanimous consent. Is there a problem in the way I asked Ttocserp, or the way I referenced their agreement? Maltice (talk) 18:35, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Maltice. The discussions need to be in one place. Opposition on the discussion page but agreement by the same author on another page just leads to confusion. On a separate note, when merging you need to give attribution in your edit summary such as content merged fromWorld's second oldest profession, see that page's history for attribution. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reminder, I will remember to give proper attribution, and only open one discussion in the future. Can the page be restored? Maltice (talk) 18:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Maltice, I've closed the discussion as opposition to the move is now withdrawn within the discussion. I've also restored the merge, added attribution and to World's second oldest profession. Regards --John B123 (talk) 21:55, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and sorry for the confusion Maltice (talk) 23:04, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Glad to see you back
At NPP. I nearly blew my head up on the backlog drive last November so have been less active this year, but with you and Onel5969 back we’re definitely on a winning streak! All the best Mccapra (talk) 15:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Untitled

 * Hello John, i have reviewed your recent tag for deletion on my recent write and wanted to ask if you could kindly note where the promotional tone is? This article was written by a publicist who wrote it specifically to be of neutral tone, thanks! Dginsberg11 (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Requesting your review on these two pages
Hi John,

I have two small articles, submitting for your review.

E Fund Management

GF Securities

See if these are ok. Thanks

-Imcdc (talk) 03:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, they look ok to me. Regards --John B123 (talk) 22:32, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John!
 * -Imcdc (talk) 13:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Up The Faraway Tree
I'm struggling to understand the reversions on this page, particularly as I've been adding more information/references.

I created this page purely from the experience of a site USER, who wondered what the fourth book in this series was about. I'd find a page more useful - even if in its present form it's brief - rather than a redirect which tells me nothing about it. TheFatJamoc (talk) 12:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi TheFatJamoc, for an article to be in Wikipedia, the subject needs to be notable. Notability is defined in WP:GNG as received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. None of the other books in the series have their own article. I would suggest you add a section into The Faraway Tree to cover Up 'The Faraway Tree'. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John.
 * It appears as if the other books have been recently removed, as they did have their own pages I believe last month? TheFatJamoc (talk) 20:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Hi TheFatJamoc, it looks like they were turned into redirects a few days ago on the 22nd. I would guess they were redirected as they lacked references and had been tagged as such for a long time. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John, I've added the piece at your suggestion - I think it's probably better this way, because, as you say, they're not especially notable works of fiction. TheFatJamoc (talk) 15:29, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Reviewer of the year - 2021
If you want, you may add this userbox to your user page: -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @John B123 Congrats! -Imcdc (talk) 13:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but please see my comment at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:01, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @John B123 Well deserved, and Congratulations! RV (talk) 12:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi RV, thanks. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:40, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Friendly advice from an experienced editor?
I have made an article about a company that is dear to me (not paid, but I wanted to help out). I have written many advertising and non-advertising articles in my time and I feel like I have not utilized any advertising speech in this one, took great care not to. Still resulted in move to draft and flagging for all sorts of things, especially the "covert advertising" and "spam" I found quite extreme, considering the facts. I have looked at many smaller company articles that have been approved and I just dont see the distinction. I have used notable sources, be it international or major media outlets in the country. You seem to have experience with these types of articles, so if you could point me, or someone else who finds this, in the right direction, I would highly appreciate. I would like to cover more businesses on wikipedia in the future but this whole situation is quite discouraging. You can find it under Draft:Sensoneo. Thank you. Straitontime (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You have been blocked indefinitely, ; you are not allowed to establish another (new) account name. Pinging administrator .--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 19:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ... and blocked. MER-C 19:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting this out. The tags look appropriate to me. Regards John B123 (talk) 21:03, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Tasha Santiago for deletion
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move to main space
hello john. can you please move Draft:2022 World Taekwondo Championships to main space? it has started today and has minimum standard of articles. it is like others : Category:Scheduled sports events. it will improve soon. best regards. Miha2020 (talk) 18:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Miha2020, sorry for not responding earlier, I been busy in life away from Wikipedia. I see it's already been moved. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:52, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * hi again. would you please participate in Aria Barzegar AFD? thanks. Miha2020 (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Acadian Asset Management
Acadian Asset Management

Hi John. I have recreated this page. This time I have used more sourcing to fulfill requirements. Could you please review?

-Imcdc (talk) 05:55, 23 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, the sourcing looks ok, but the second paragraph of 'Background' comes across as very promotional. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:34, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @John B123. I have reworded that part. See if this works? -Imcdc (talk) 10:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Imcdc, that looks a lot better. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:50, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks John -Imcdc (talk) 01:00, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Imcdc, thanks. Happy New Year. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, John B123!


Happy New Year! John B123, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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This is what I am talking about
The article may have draft in its title but is set up like a regular article not wjat I am calling an official draft article. Draft:Gary Sullivan (restaurateur) BostonMensa (talk) 01:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:Draft to find out what a draft is. Please also read WP:PROD, which specifically states Proposed deletion cannot be used with redirects, user pages (except user books), drafts, templates, categories, or pages in any other namespace. This is borne out by administrator Liz removing the PROD tag, and another editor telling you the same at MFD. I would advise in future that rather than editwarring, you should familiarise yourself with the relevant WP policies. If you are concerned that an draft doesn't have a mechanism to submit for review, then you could be helpful and add the AfC submission template yourself. --John B123 (talk) 07:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:International Textile Machinery Association exhibition
Hello John B123 Sir, I hope you are doing well! Please review the subject Draft:International Textile Machinery Association exhibition. It was declined two times in the past. I have pulled it from deleted drafts. Please suggest if any corrections are still required. Thank you, and best wishes RV (talk) 08:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)


 * RV. The issues brought up by previous reviewers seem to have been resolved so I've moved it to mainspace, Regards --John B123 (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks RV (talk) 08:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Category:Sex worker organisations in Finland has been nominated for merging
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Proposed deletion of File:Prostitution laws of the world2.PNG


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Wikimedia Foundation project to improve PageTriage
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Sara Tomko
Hi I found a bunch of articles about Sara Tomko, many with her name in the headline. I also found more roles. Have added all this to article, but more work to be done. I think it's looking a lot better and hope this shows notability? Thanks. 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:7551:FBEA:EA2:59C3 (talk) 08:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Authority control
Hi John. For future information, the syntax is {Authority control|qid=Q6197319} although the parameter is not needed if the page is already connected to Wikidata. Best regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Martin, thanks for the info. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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re : about the Comfort Women
hello, The short description should be edited to keep up with historical accuracy.

Considering the sole responsibility of the IJA (army) in this crime is a historical error because the Japanese army and navy were two quite separate entities and they both participated in this crime. You can also take 5 mins to check this page and you will find that the IJN (Navy) involvement is also mentioned three times, so it makes sense to change this short description. You are free to leave this text without correction but it would be a shame for the truthfulness of the rest of the text which is correctly written. Hanafunda (talk) 03:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. Please also note the warning on your talk page about edit warring. --John B123 (talk) 06:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Gravity Noir albums


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Greg mathias
Tanks for the review. Working on it:)--APG1984 (talk) 21:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi APG1984, let me know when it's ready and I'll have another look. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:22, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much in advance for the help. I will surely do!--APG1984 (talk) 21:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello!! I wanted to keep on editing Greg Mathias (yes after a long time) but I can't find it. I tried here: []. if you have time could you tell me where you moved it? thx!!! PS: i copied the old discussion above to remind you:)--APG1984 (talk) 01:00, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi APG1984, its at Draft:Greg Mathias. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 05:23, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

ReferenceExpander
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