User talk:John C. Huang

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Observation Theories
1. First Observation Theory - Recording Time - Time Equation


 * If we record from a point O about the starting time tR of some objects start an event all together at a point A and time tP then tR = tP+(AO/c) where AO is the distance and c is the speed of light between A and O.

tP is called the proper time of the event and tR is called the recording time of that event. It is obvious that the difference of tR and tP is proportional to the distance of A and O that tR-tP = AO/c. 2. Second Observation Theory - Recording Period - Period Equation


 * If the event in the Time Equation ends at a point B and proper ending time tPe then the recording ending time for tPe is tRe = tPe+(BO/c) so that the proper period of that event, tPe-tP, is recorded as tRe-tR = (tPe-tP)+((BO-AO)/c). If BO>AO, then the recording period is longer than the proper period of that event. If BO<AO, then the recording period is shorter than the proper period of that event.

If BO=AO, A and B are on the same sphere with O at the center, then the recording period is the same as the proper period of that event. 3. Third Observation Theory - C Relativity - not Special Relativity


 * If the event in Period Equation is that an object moves from A to O under a constant velocity v and continue moving away from O after it reaches O then we let tR = tP = 0 when A = O so that we have created the same environment as it is for old Special Relativity (old SR). Since AO = |tP|v, based on Time Equation, we derived tR = tP+|tP|(v/c) and named it C Relativity.

In C Relativity (CR), when tR = 0, tR = tP; when tR < 0, tR = ((c-v)/c)tP; when tR > 0, tR = ((c+v)/c)tP. In old SR, tR = ktP, k is the Lorentz Factor, k = (1-((v/c)^2))^(-1/2). 3-1. Current Special Relativity (SR) SR stated even if the observer is located at different position, the time equation in old SR is still correct that tR = ktP, k is the Lorentz Factor. Since SR stated tR = ktP is correct for any observer, if SR is correct then old SR must be correct; on the other hand, if old SR is proved wrong then SR must be wrong. Since old SR has same environment as CR if CR is proved correct then old SR is wrong and then SR must be wrong. 3-2. Thought Experiment to verify CR This is an experiment can be done when we will have super-clock to measure nanosecond. We will need two flat glass rings of 5" width with 12" and 24" diameter each. Two rings will be separated 12m apart at point A and B. Ring A, 12", will have half-tone yellow color and ring B, 24", will have half-tone red color. Let two super camcorders be faced both rings on the line connected both center points of rings. Camcorder L will be 12m away from A at the other side of B and camcorder C will be 12m away from B at the other side of A. Let both camcorders be start record at 10:00 pm one night in the future. The person has camcorder L, Mr. L, will turn his flashlight on at 10:00 pm and 1 minute then he will turn it off 20 nanoseconds (ns) later, by the timer, of cause. 3-2-1. Expected Numbers
 * According to CR, when the moving object is light, v = c, so that for c to travel 12m it will take 40ns, tP = 40ns. To Mr. L, tR = ((c+c)/c)tP = 2tP = 80ns and to the other person with camcorder C, Mr. C, tR = ((c-c)/c)tP = 0ns.

3-2-2. Expected Result
 * We will check the recorded event at camcorder L to see that the ring A will be lighted roughly from 10:00 pm, 1 minute, and 80ns to 100ns while ring B will be lighted from 160ns to 180ns. That will mean the speed of light is measured as about c/2. In the video recorded by camcorder C we will see both of ring A and ring B will be lighted from 120 ns to 140 ns. That will mean the speed of light is measured as about infinitely fast.

This thought experiment will verify that CR is correct and Einstein's 3rd postulate that "the speed of light is independent from the location (and inertial velocity) of the observer" is wrong. Please let me know your idea so that NPA can establish Observation Theories (OT). Sincerely,

John John C. Huang (talk) 00:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Your edits have been reverted
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. Please remember to observe our core policies. - DVdm (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Might I also add that, as participant of the Relativity WikiProject, you first propose the changes you have in mind on the talk pages of the articles? Thanks, DVdm (talk) 20:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Question and reply
(Note: I moved your question from the top of my talk page to the bottom of yours) - please follow the Talk page guidelines - DVdm)

John C. Huang (talk) 01:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC) May I have some explanations regarding that my notes did not provide good reason, please. Thanks.

John C. Huang


 * Please take some time to find out how the Wikipedia works. The pointers provided in the above welcome message will guide you. If want to take a shortcut, have a look at the policy articles "original research", "reliable sources" and "neutral point of view". Your contributions were not in line with these policies. Good luck, DVdm (talk) 10:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Odd edits to special relativity
Hi, please do not add meaningless content, as you did recently to Special relativity. If you want to experiment, you can do it in the sandbox. Cheers, Silly rabbit (talk) 00:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Please stop adding your original research to article talk pages
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Contributions like, and  do not comply with the policies "original research", "reliable sources" and "neutral point of view". Please take some time to find out how the Wikipedia works by following the pointers in the welcome message. DVdm (talk) 09:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. -- Please do not write comments on other people's user pages. DVdm (talk) 18:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I just tried to let you know personally that you may like to modify your article which represents your main issue. That is your own problem and I have no interest to publish my comment to your user page in public. To prevent others commenting your user page, you could put it as read-only article. :)


 * But you did publish your comment to my user page, and it is in public. If you want to talk to me, you can use my talk page, not my user page. And please be aware that all pages are in public. You would know that if you had read any of the suggested links in the welcome message.
 * Anyway, I had a look now at the comment you made. Um..., I'm sorry to have to tell you this and that I can't think of any other way to tell you, but I think you really have no idea what you are (and I am) talking about, and I cannot make any sense whatsoever from what you write. I think we are on entirely different wavelenghts. Sorry. DVdm (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

That was the best I could do, I did not have your email address. You could remove whatever in your user page like right now, no one would see it after you removed it. John C. Huang (talk) 19:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed your original research from Talk:Albert Einstein. Wikipedia does not accept original research. —teb728 t c 21:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever you call it (discovery or research), you may not post it unless it has been published previously in a reliable source. —teb728 t c 23:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - DVdm (talk) 14:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Please observe the rules
You have a user page User:John_C._Huang, and this is your "talk" page or discussion page. Please refrain from adding material to the user pages of other contributors. Use their talk pages. Wikipedia is a place to provide readers with secondary materials about the works of established authorities (e.g., in physics), and not a place to publish the viewpoints or speculations of people whose work has not been accepted by experts in those fields. Please go according to the rules from now on. P0M (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

2008 June
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

I say this as a friend: LISTEN TO THEM! Wiki is a great place and if you try I know you can become a contributing part of this wonderful community of people. You just have to slow down and learn all the rules first. If you want to talk please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Skeletor 0 (talk) 16:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

John, as numerous people have told you, Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, and it is not a discussion forum for original thought. There is no place here for you to post your theories. And other people are not permitted to discuss them with you here. I see from your edit history that you have done nothing here but attempt to discuss your theories; I’m sorry, but if that is all you want to do here, you will have to find a different place. If you broaden your interests to helping to write an encyclopedia, you are welcome to do that. —teb728 t c 00:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

In answer to your question...
First off I'm not exactly sure what you are asking but from what I can tell you have forgotten that the reason why the physicists did not find the full amount of expected change is because light is constant. It always traveling at the same speed (300 000m/s) in all reference frames and is not affected by the speed of the observer or in this case of the apparatus. In any case this is the kind of original research that has gotten you in trouble before so please reference next time! Yours truly:Skeletor 0 (talk) 02:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skeletor 0 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I have done some more reading on the subject and I have found your answer. The reason why they did not find the expected change was because there is no ether. The experiment proved that there was no ether because the change was not enough to support its existence. If it dose exist it is not affected by nor does it affect anything. check this link and you will understand. 19th Century Ether Theory Yours truly Skeletor 0 (talk) 02:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I hope your final message is the last I will hear of your original research on Wiki (except on your user page). If you are only interested in Wiki as a forum for your theory, I must ask you to not make contributions and I will talk to an adimn to get you blocked. However I hope that will not be necessary and that you become a contributing member of Wiki. Just remember: NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH! This includes any theories made by you or any theory not published in a scientific journal. Sencerly Skeletor 0 (talk) 21:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:John C. Huang
User:John C. Huang, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:John C. Huang and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:John C. Huang during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * John, I am glad to see that you have agreed not to post your theories except on your user page, unless and until they are published in a scientific journal. Just to be sure you understand, please see Reliable sources for the kind of journal where they would have to be published. —teb728 t c 21:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)