User talk:John Keller

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Hello, John Keller. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Musical notation, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. shoy (reactions) 15:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

December 2021
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. WP:REFSPAM, musicnotation.org – NJD-DE (talk) 00:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. MrOllie (talk) 01:21, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I have now made a sandox to experiment on how to do edits. i must say the instructions everywhere on wikipedia are very confusing. Do you see this question MrOllie? How do I make a new paragraph? Ok I see I have to type. But what does br stand for? John Keller (talk) 21:39, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * If you have general questions about Wikipedia editing the best place to ask is WP:TEAHOUSE. If you ask questions on your own talk page almost no one will see them. - MrOllie (talk) 21:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. But how did you come to see this on my page?John Keller (talk) 22:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Because I left a message here, it was placed on my watchlist for a period of time. MrOllie (talk) 22:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me if there is a way to see the history of the subtopic Chromatic Stave Notation in Music Notation? John Keller (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * To answer my own question, I found in my "contributions" tab, I was able to find the history of my attempts to edit the Music Notations page. John Keller (talk) 06:28, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Dodeka Music Notation
This is not an example of "Chromatic Staff Notation" since it uses elongated note-traces like the piano roll notation used in DAWs. Also this link which you left in, is clearly a personal website. So you have misled people who are interested in genuine chromatic notations. Can I get a second opinion or a discussion on this? John Keller (talk) 04:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Source Book of Proposed Music Notation Reforms
Hi MrOllie. Would this music reference book by Gardner Read be a suitable citation for inclusion of some examples?

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Proposed-Music-Notation-Reforms/dp/031325446X John Keller (talk) 06:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)