User talk:John Riemann Soong

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Hello,, I am writing to you since you replaced the administrative district map with the original planning region map in the article about Singapore. However, the main articles about most countries of the world have some information about their administrative subdivisions, so I think this information should not be missing from the Singapore article either. I concede that planning regions may have a higher importance in Singapore than in many other countries. So, perhaps we can agree in putting both maps? I also find it interesting that both subdivisions, which contain 5 regional units each, are totally incompatible.--Ratzer 09:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:2006 redefinition of planet
While it might seem appropriate to use the talk page for the redefinition as a place to discuss the issue, it is not. The talk page is for adminstrating the content of the article itself. If you have opinions on the issue, please find an internet forum and discuss there. This thread on the science forum, for example. Many off-topic sections have already been removed from the above talk page, as they were cluttering the page up. Such sections will continue to be removed. Thanks. -- Run! 21:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Indonesian Chinese vs Chinese Indonesian
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Helpme on
Can an admin indefinitely block this user please, I suspect this is a spambot. John Riemann Soong 20:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't use helpme tags on other users' talk pages. If you think this user is vandalising Wikipedia, you can warn them using templates from WP:TT, but they haven't made any edits in hours.  J Ditalk 21:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hmm, I am aware of the field and use it often, but what sin did I commit, exactly? John Riemann Soong 20:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Probably didn't fill it in sometimes. I got that prompt too. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Wong Kim Ark and Toisanese tones
John, my source for the Toisanese pronunciation of Wong Kim Ark's name gave me the tone indications you saw (and which you changed). My understanding was that "11" was intended to indicate a tone starting and ending at a low (1) level. Similarly, "33" indicated a tone starting and ending at a mid (3) level. I think the reason he had me use a single "3" for the tone on the third syllable was because it was a short syllable (ending with a stop), and thus didn't have room for any sort of tone contour, but just a single pitch. Regarding the notation, my impression was that a standard tone-numbering scheme had never been adopted for the Toisanese dialect, so this method of specifying the actual pitch levels was used instead. However, if there's a better approach, I certainly wouldn't object. I, myself, don't speak Toisanese or any other Chinese language/dialect and am forced to rely completely on expert informants for this info. Richwales 18:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Tip of the hat
InfernoXV saying hi :) InfernoXV 06:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

phonetics letters
where did u find the phonetics letters that u used on the PG Wodehouse page pls? i would love to have them too.Zigzig20s 18:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

There's Double-sized IPA vowel chart and List of consonants for easy copy and paste. I wish there were alt-combinations and compose key settings for them. I know most by heart now. John Riemann Soong 12:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: francophone?
Oui, bien sur, je vais au MOELC. "Riemann", c'est un prénom peu commun ça... --Starry maiden Gazer 11:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello, I see that you're a Wikipedian as well! Am interested to discover that you're familiar with the International Phonetic Alphabet – because I'm not. Feel free to comment on the phonetic transcriptions of Singlish and Singapore English entries in my Dictionary of Singlish and Singapore English. And what's the URL of your blog? Cheers, Jacklee 14:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Regarding Singapore templates
I understand this issue. I have pointed out a major flaw which needs to be informed to the administrators to amend or revise the infobox: The Infobox for parliamentary would have one for government, one for opposition and the others for third parties and Independents.Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 18:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE IT COULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY. Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we can fix the election template for Singaporean elections
I have three points that we should consider:1.) In the 1955 Elections, the Government was a coalition while the PAP was the main opposition party, 2.) From 1959-present, there were different opposition and no alliance with all the opposition parties (WP, SDA and SDP) and finally 3.) Independents. Rizalninoynapoleon (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Sax
Can you please take a look at the compromise version I made of the Leonard Sax page? I would appreciate your input, and would also be very grateful if you helped keep it from tilting too far to the Sax side again. DarwinPeacock (talk) 21:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: Dr Sax does not have a "theory of sexual dimorphism". As a representative of the people who answer Wikipedia's e-mail, I am politely asking you to please not insert statements about this purported theory in the article. Thank you. DS (talk) 05:22, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

ANI Notice
You are the subject of discussion at WP:ANI. I believe that it is necessary at this point, to provide a full listing of alternate accounts and/or IP addresses used by this account. This has also been sent to your e-mail. seicer |  talk  |  contribs  04:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, you don't have e-mail access activated. seicer  &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  04:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy note
This is a courtesy note to let you know that in a recent discussion, I used the recent ANI discussion about your use of the tools as an example. My mention of that is included within this comment. I'm not sure how active you are, but I'm letting you know so you can comment there if you wish. Carcharoth (talk) 18:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Assume good faith
O.k. I tried to hint at this at your science ref desk question, but I shall now assume good faith and think that you really don't know what you are trying to cook up. I also hope no other enterprising chemistry experimenter is going to come across this and will try these "beans". Look at Inhalant. Ethyl acetate is a solvent. As such it is the ingredient that serves as inhalant component chemical in some glues. It's addictive. If you manage to cook up significant amounts ... BTW it's also rather flammable and an irritant. (OR: we managed to blow a hole into our street with a shoe-polish fire-cracker when I was a kid. So I can appreciate that the full scope of one's experiments doesn't always become immediately apparent :-)  Stay safe.71.236.26.74 (talk) 02:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I really think my yield would be healthfully negligible though -- like the amount of ethyl acetate you'd actually find in fresh fruit (hopefully). I also read somewhere that propenal levels increase as you store fried potatoes that are being made into potato crisps at the expense of acetaldehyde (and they are being well-stored, e.g. it's not decomposition). Seeing as propenal has health hazard level 4, and ethyl acetate has a health hazard of 1 ... and seeing how fried stuff isn't regarded as particularly dangerous ... (other than dieting issues of course, but I'm stick thin). John Riemann Soong (talk) 08:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Algae & contact
Hi, I'm the algae grower; you can contact me here: postadelcarassio(youknowwhat)alice(youknowwhat)it; please cancel this email from here as soon as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.61.167.50 (talk) 16:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Electropotential of esters
Replied at Reference desk/Science.

Ben (talk) 22:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Solid Cl2
A little late so I post here. (Searching for "solid cl2" gets rid of a lot of the noise)
 * See http://www.mrs.org/s_mrs/bin.asp?CID=7587&DID=193420&DOC=FILE.PDF
 * Solid Cl2 is pale green, still no picture.83.100.251.196 (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Silence? Not helpful?
Your silence after my reply to this question leaves me with the impression that I was not helpful. If my impression is correct, then I do apologize. -- Scray (talk) 05:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Dude...
I really don't want this to come off the wrong way. I do enjoy working out your organic-chem-brainteasers-of-the-day at the Ref Desks. Really, as a chemistry teacher and tutor myself, I frequently have to answer questions like these from my students, so as a general principle, they are not a problem. But seriously, wouldn't just conversing with your professors be a better option to get these answers? It likely seems that asking a real live, honest-to-god expert in the field for their take on the matter would yield better results than random strangers on the internet. Presumably, from the tone and matter of your questions, you are a university student taking some organic chemistry classes right now. It would seem you have access to all the info you need if you asked your profs. Again, I really don't want to seem rude here, but after about 100 random organic questions, it makes one wonder if you couldn't get the answers faster through other means. -- Jayron  32  05:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I totally understand all of that. I know what its like that professors can be swamped by so many students that it is hard for any one of them to get some extra help or answer to their questions.  Actually, since I run a private chemistry tutoring business, I sort of depend on it!  Most of my students need extra one-on-one help, and are unable to get it from their profs for the exact reasons you note.  Its no big deal, I don't really want to discourage you asking your questions.  Please carry on, I just wanted to make sure you really were covering all options and not running to the refdesks as a first option... -- Jayron  32  06:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

talkback
Basket of Puppies 19:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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File:LSD tautomers and enantiomers.jpg
Hi John Riemann Soong, there are some problems with your scheme File:LSD tautomers and enantiomers.jpg. The upper reaction actually proceeds through alpha (to carbonyl) deprotonation, the bottom reaction does not exist as far as I am aware of. I will remove the image from the LSD article. BTW, if you want to contribute more chemical diagrams and structures then have a look at Manual of Style (chemistry)/Structure drawing. Drop me a note on my talk page if you have any questions :-) Cacycle (talk) 20:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Problems at national lab
I original wrote this in response to your question on the RD but decided to leave it here instead.

JRS you've asked plenty of questions on the RD. Sometimes you've asked so many that people seem to have started to semi ignore you. In addition some of the questions you've asked in the past, from the comments people have made, have seemed to be the type you probably should have been able to answer (or at least guess an answer) yourself by reading and thinking (this means more then just a simple search). In addition some of the things you've said in the past seem to suggest you somewhat outwore your welcome from lecturers and such as well. I note as well you've said "I've written to at least a dozen different researchers concerning various inquiries or leads, often asking them if they know any suitable colleagues if they're not suitable or too busy".

Beyond all the issue wording of the emails, if you're regularly asking people for help, be careful that you're not starting to be a pain. While many I'm sure reseachers often like an enthusiastic student, there is such a thing as being too enthusiatic.

Some things you may want to consider. How many people are you asking for help? How often are you asking for help? Are you having a lot of back and forths? Do you follow up if you don't get a response and if so how many times and how soon? What sort of help are you asking for? Have you put some thought and done some research before you ask? Take into account both e-mail and face to face contact.

To use an example if you're asking for help and then following up within 2 days if you don't get a response, I would suggest you're being way too impatient. Be aware as well that ultimately some people will ignore you (for example if they feel they can't help, while a reply saying they can't help may seem the best thing not all are going to particularly if they're busy, wording of course will help as it will with the rest). As others have noted you definitely don't want to comes across as sounding like you feel you are entitled to a response or help most of the time (as unfortunately from memory you seem to have once or twice on the RD). Do note sometimes if you get no reply, it may be best just to not leave it be.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I do genuinely think from what I've read in the past there could be wider reasons why you've had problems getting responses and even if there's nothing now you should be careful so that you don't cause that in the future. Be aware that people may talk about this sort of thing so depending on the size of the lab it's easily possible you could gain a reputation if you bother too many people which I'm sure is not something you want to do.

Nil Einne (talk) 12:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
--Chemicalinterest (talk) 00:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Au-S bond
I moved the main referenced content formerly in gold-sulfur bond to Gold chalcogenides, which seems like a more logical home for material on the Au-S bond. The article gold-sulfur bond has remained essentially untouched since you created it, and it is possible that the topic would get more editing attention in this new home. Also relevant is Self assembled monolayer, where the question of the fate of the RS-H bond could be mentioned, with a nice secondary source. My sense was that the former gold-sulfur bond article was a school essay, which is cool and a great learning experience, but not ideal for Wikipedia since original researchy themes are discouraged. Ideally you will continue to contribute to these articles with attention to the broad referencing guidelines encouraged within Wikipedia, but it looks like you are pretty occupied with other activities. Best wishes,--Smokefoot (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Your naive article
Hi John: Maybe we could turn our disagreement into a learning moment for both of us. So here are my perspective on why this article is flawed and should be merged with gold chalcogenide:
 * Few chemists would consider gold chalcogenides (the main one being Au2S) ionic, as you state. This is the kind of remark that leads me to think that in some inadvertant way, you are doing WP:SYN.  They certainly feature gold-sulfur bonds, or are you referring to an analysis (WP:SYN) that excludes them from other Au-S species.
 * A great amount of experimental work exists on Au-S compounds, but the range of materials are so diverse that it is difficult (to be gentle) to make the kinds of sweeping statements in your draft. These compounds are incredibly diverse in structure, ligand types, oxidation states, and degrees of aggregation of the gold species, ranging for example, from mixed valence gold dithiolenes to labile Au(SMe2)Cl to the polysulfido derivatives (AuS9- and Au2S62- being my favorites) and the remarkable S(AuPPh3)3+.
 * In view of this diversity, it is unclear how the article makes so many broad claims and implies that you offer some special insights (WP:SYN). But I look forward to your comments and insights.  If you wish, I can provide a detailed disection of the article's weaknesses and perhaps we could learn together. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I copied your message to me below, since one Talk page is easier than two:
 * Well it's not really at all the same topic. That article deals with gold in a +1 or +3 oxidation state -- not at all the same chemistry. Stubs have to start somewhere. I was invariably planning on improving it when I wasn't so busy. Can you please offer a real reason for merging an article about a near-covalent bond to an article dealing with ionic compounds? John Riemann Soong (talk) 10:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Response: The article that you created is entitled "Gold-sulfur bond", not "Gold(0)-sulfur bond".  The title of the article is quite broad, and, as I discuss above, the class of compounds with Au-S bonds is so very diverse to make any broad statements very tricky.  This is the reason that you are stepping across the OR line or at least doing WP:SYN.  These are not evil mistakes, just ones that students that dont appreciate the scope of a field make.  My recommendation is to direct your  knowledge to slightly expand a section in a pre-existing article, hence my continued encouragement to work on SAMs or gold chalcogenides.  You could go to thiol by mentioning the affinity of RSH for gold, which is interesting and needs a broad reference, like Schmidbaur's book.--Smokefoot (talk) 14:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I note from the article you want to redirect to: "Gold(I) sulfide, Au2S. formed by passing hydrogen sulfide through solutions of gold(I) compounds". If anything that article is overly broad. If you look at carbon-nitrogen bond, the single, double and triple carbon-nitrogen bonds are discussed. Isn't that overly broad?

Note that all the articles on the gold sulfides are redlinks. Also note that AFAIK, gold(0) doesn't chemically bond (on the order of covalently) with anything else other than sulfide. (Though the lit does mention bimolecular magnetic attractions...) I don't even recall putting any special insights in the article.

Wikipedia mind you, is written primarily for students (or common people), not accomplished chemists like yourself. I started the article gold-sulfur bond because I was incredibly frustrated at having to do so much literature research simply to obtain some general characteristics about gold(0) - sulfur bonding, stuff of course NOT contained in self-assembled monolayer. Stuff I needed for some actual (non-paper) work. Articles are supposed to have synergy. How is a student, trying to improve upon a protocol for gold-thiol functionalisation, supposed to extract anything useful from "gold chalcogenide" anyway? I was planning on generalising some existing functionalization strategies, such as polymer-wrapping such that there is effectively only one (really long) ligand on a colloidal gold nanoparticle.

I have peers from all over the country who are trying to do functionalize colloidal gold nanorods for biological work or whatever. The article was written with their audience in mind. Of course the audience should be expanded at some point, and the article should be improved to be less naive or whatever, but you don't do that by effectively deleting and redirecting an article (btw, that process is reserved for afd, esp. under dispute). John Riemann Soong (talk) 16:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is indeed written for common people, but it is intended to be factual. The current article misleads readers and seriously misrepresents the topic of gold-sulfur bonds.  Your points as to (i) why you started the article and (ii) that you have peers are irrelevant.  The point is content. To experts, the style and content of the article make immediately clear that it is authored by someone with a weak understanding of chemistry.  But Wikipedia evolves, and maybe someone else will be more successful in explaining the basics to you.  Good luck,--Smokefoot (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I've raised this issue on the article's Talk page. -- Scray (talk) 21:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * John, don't let yourself get trapped by pride and ignorance. I am not trying to trick you, and metal-sulfur chemistry and materials are areas where I have much experience. --Smokefoot (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Distillation and electrolysis
Would carbon electrodes work well for oxidation reactions? --Chemicalinterest (talk) 10:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've never used one. Depending on the oxidation they might work brilliantly, I imagine they degrade over time in electrolytic environment. Carbon is a heterogeneous catalyst but doesn't usually form metallic interactions that is responsible for 50% of industrial chemistry. John Riemann Soong (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I use them to electrolyze water and make chlorine from sodium hypochlorite.
 * About calcium hypochlorite... I'll think about it. I am doing flame tests now and burning various metals. I actually forgot about the alcohol/hypochlorite reaction. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 22:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

GPAs and Top Tier Schools
Hey John, I wanted to respond to your recent query at WP:RDS but I figure my response isn't quite "encyclopedic" or "referenced" enough to belong on the desk. "What's the usual GPA cutoff for a tier 1 school?" Stop thinking in terms of "GPA" and you'll do much better for yourself, both in your quest for a top-tier graduate school and in your eventual career search. Especially as you hit the "top tier," linear measures like GPA become uncorrelated to any actual, useful, parameter like happiness, or research merit, or salary, or career advancement. Think in terms of objectives - successful satisfaction of objectives - this is much more abstract than a "percentage" or a "score"... but people with very high GPAs are supposed to be very good at abstract concepts. Nimur (talk) 23:56, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh I mean I'm usually not that sort of person....but I'm not sure if non-science employers would even appreciate the fact that you'd have published in journals and lead your own research projects and whatnot. John Riemann Soong (talk) 00:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Reference desk
This is just to make sure you saw that the other day, I added a response to your question at the reference desk. Hope it is helpful. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed Image Deletion
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YOU SEEM LIKE A COOL DUDE
hello, I am another escapee, currently reside in Kent, UK. I am Scottish though. Last year I lived in China. Anyways. You said you were between two worlds... What two? I suspect there are many. The universe is massive. Shall we be friends in Wikipedia-land? Its a funny ol' wold, huh? Have a good day. Justanotherescapee (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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Images being deleted
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