User talk:John from Idegon/Archive 11

Your recent decline for the admittance of FunnyJunk as a page
Although I used sources, they were declared not reliable enough. The problem is there are currently very few sources existing which are about FunnyJunk, that is why I wanted to create a wikipedia page for the site, so that way there would be a reliable, easily accessible source about FunnyJunk. I'm just wondering what about the sources are not reliable. Knowyourmeme.com is the largest database for internet memes and popular trends. They track down any trend, they find its origin, its development, and amount of usage over time. FunnyJunk Wiki was the only other encyclopedia like page about the site. What more can I add to make my wikipedia page more reliable? Thank you for the help in advance. -Imri — Precedingunsigned comment added by76.29.93.69 (talk) 13:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Train Collectors Asociation edits
Thank you for your help. I am not a master of referencing, which obviously shows. I initially intended to simply update the information and have ended up becoming immersed in justification. I think that an info box with our logo would be helpful. If you can add this I will edit. 1:1 gauge indeed! How "large" is your collection?

Carol


 * Millions. Every train that has ever gone by my window, whether it was at home, or in my car! (Or even at Horseshoe Curve!). Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, bad news. I have the organization's logo on my computer, but I cannot add it to the article as fair use until the article is approved and in mainspace. If I can help with referencing, let me know. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:55, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: your recent reversion of my edits to Black Rock
I identified it as vandalism because I did include a citation. Since Wegmans a prominent regional supermarket chose Black Rock which had been going downhill at the time the neighborhood has been gaining ground while Riverside to its immediate north has been loosing ground. Sportsmens hss a national reputation for the prominence of the acts that the local owner brings in. You have a lot of fancy badges on your user sight, they do not make up for the ignorance that your reversion shows.1archie99 (talk) 03:13, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Olivia Rose Fisher
Age 10 Notable- saved father

She is a swimmer. — Precedingunsigned comment added by173.70.215.34 (talk) 03:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming that this is regarding either a CSD or a declined submission at AfC. Let me just say that for someone to have an article, they must be notable, which usually is satisfied by passing the general notability guideline, or having multiple third-party sources (from newspapers, magazines, etc.) having coverage on the person. Unless the subject of this article does, Gtwfan was probably justified in what he did. Thanks. Go   Phightins  !  03:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello,

I cited the demographic report LA Jewish Community Survey which has the data on Beverly Hills which is 25,500 Jewish residents divided by the total population of Beverly Hills. Thanks, Pini (Pini00001 (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2013 (UTC))

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Alternative sentencing
I really like your idea. The more I think about it the more I see its positives. I'm not saying we need to 'giterdone' right now but its a definite keeper idea for future developement. ```Buster Seven   Talk  13:16, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Also, your note to the young swimmers family shows your compassion. Thanks for that. Buster Seven   Talk 

Peninsula award
Well thank you very much. What a great idea! Anybody can do one peninsula with a hand, but I do two. Actually, if you put your right hand palm up. And then on your left hand tuck in your ring and baby fingers, and extend your left thumb. Now place the joint of your left middle finger over the tip of the right middle finger. Congratulations. You have now used both hands to describe two peninsulas. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:29, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suggest three possible candidates as worthy. User: Asher196 User:Imzadi1979User:Doug Coldwell 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Notable Residents
I added Ronnie Coleman to Jasper's list of notable residents, and was going to add some other former NFL players. I see that you said I needed a reference to show that that is where Coleman is from. I was wondering if I really do need a reference, since that information is on his Wiki page? Also, almost every entry in most articles that have native people don't have references on that article. Just wondering. Thanks! — Precedingunsigned comment added by Dofftoubab (talk • contribs) 18:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Assuming you mean the Jasper High School page? His wiki article only shows he is from Jasper, not from Jasper High School.  And the citation tag doesn't mean you have to take it down.  When you find one, add it; no sweat! Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:05, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I just meant that he was a native of Jasper, AL, on the Jasper, AL page. I'm not sure what high school he graduated from. If I need to clarify anything, let me know. Thanks!Dofftoubab (talk) 00:50, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

High School Page
Yes, this is the page we are hoping to work on. I am in the process of collaborating with the content teacher to create the assignment guidelines, and we are trying to find out what types of information our local museum/history center has archived. Our students probably won't be on here for at least a month. We will have them create accounts and play in the sandbox area first. Thanks! Jcarney 77 (talk) 19:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Jcarney 77 (talk) 19:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Jcarney77

Reply
I'm sorry that you took the edit summary the wrong way, I wasn't trying to be rude at all, I call all guys bud, in a friendly buddy way. Those tags need to stay on the article though, a biography of a living person that contains original research needs more than 3 references, and if the article is a AfD then the notability is in question.  NYSM y talk page  00:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well he is signed to a record label, so I think that qualifies as a musician even if he is also on YouTube. I'm certainly not questioning his talent, I have his CD autographed by him, I have nothing against him.  NYSM y talk page  00:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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Fort Wayne, IN
Thanks for checking my edit. Fort Wayne Community Schools (FWCS) just this year (2012-13) has become the largest public school in the state of Indiana.

Yes, I did make the edit, but I do not know how to include references. It looks pretty technical to me (the HTML part), but I'd like to learn. Please, if there is a "how to" Wikipedia page, can you send the link to me?

The internet references are as follows:

http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/home/FWCS-Becomes-Largest-School-System-in-Indiana-170186636.html

http://www.fwcs.k12.in.us/about.php

Thanks,

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Thanks again for your help! pdburkPdburk (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

McGuire
Hi, I saw your note on my talk page about about Jimmy McGuire and have to repsectfully disagree with you about his notability, although I fully understand why you would have a concern. Typically, I actually believe that an alumnus should not be added to a Notable alumni list unless they already have a Wikipedia article, although it is certainly allowed in instances where an article for the person would likely be approved. In this case, McGuire is the only original member of the Jeopardy Clue Crew that is still on the show. Therefore, he has been on almost every episode of this major program - one of the top-rated syndicated shows for many years - for more than 11 years. Also, there have been numerous news articles about him over the years. Based on all this, I'd like to add McGuire back to the list as I feel he more than qualifies as a notable resident. You can reply here. I'll watch this page. Thanks.--76.189.106.37 (talk) 02:02, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree. I knew he was as soon as I saw his name.  WP:NLIST requires that every listing on a notable people list have enough sourcing to create an article on him.  My personal policy is to delete any that don't have an article as a way of encouraging the creation of the article.  But, if you don't feel like writing the article, I will not delete him if you reinsert him with two reliable sources, as that is the basic requirement for a BLP article.  I like what you have done on Squirrel Hill....keep up the good work! Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:10, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * First, thank you so much for your nice comments about my work on the article. I really do appreciate it. In terms of McGuire, I'll add a few cites. Since I don't have the patience for creating articles, perhaps you might be interested in doing it. Hint, hint. ;)--76.189.106.37 (talk) 02:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Never (purposely) written a bio, but after you put up some references, I'll give it a shot.Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! :)
Thank you so much! I was unaware of the fact that sandboxes should not be created in the main space. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 08:14, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
I just got back on line. I wanted to stop here before I forgot and before I checked out too much of my watchlist. I see that there is a thread at WER talk requesting nominations. No mention is made about new editors which you and I both feel should not be forgotten or made less of than hard-working but forgotten veterans. If you add whatever you feel is appropriate to garner new editor nominations, I will support it 100%. New editors are positively entitled to be Editor of the Week. ```<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven  <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk  21:14, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Your interactions with Johnc76

 * I left a milder comment on ANI but...
 * This diff and the progression that led up to this were far from exemplary behavior.
 * Please review and consider our guideline WP:BITE and more generally the policyWP:CIVIL.
 * We expect people to fix problems that crop up, including marketing fluff and copyright violations that may happen. But we also expect people to TALK to people who cause problems, not just revert them and bash them around.  It appears that you made little effort to reach out and communicate with - not at - Johnc76 during this entire affair.  The diff above was at best taunting, and at worst an actionable violation of WP:BITE.
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Hi everyone, Gtwfan52 did originally reach out to him in a genuine attempt to set him on the right track only to be completely rebuffed by John76. (The messages have been deleted by John76 from his talk page). Rocketrod1960 (talk) 00:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * thank you. I have been debating the proper form of "agree to disagree" message to send to the above editor.  I didn't think I was crazy. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

FYI
Howdy! Given you raised it originally, I thought you should at least be made aware of this. Cheers, Stalwart 111  02:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello!
Pleased to make your acquaintance thru 13's page... FYI, I'm not a fella, but an editor of the female persuasion. I have not had a lot of experience with deletions and certainly none with the type of defamatory language which was originally on that page until "13" got an admin to sort it. Again, glad to meet you !! Ellin Beltz (talk) 05:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And the original author on the article removed the top header suggesting the article be deleted. I'm sorry, I've only marked one or two articles before and no one ever objected, what do you suggest?  Ellin Beltz (talk) 06:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course you know he has every right to do that; the next step is AfD. I use twinkle and that automates nominating it.  Remember that you have to make a policy-based argument as to why it should be deleted.  The fact that his company isn't in the phonebook really isn't a valid argument. Before you nominate an article for deletion for the first time, you should readWP:BEFORE.  If I can be of any more help, let me know. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:24, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If the article is about someone that is not known in the area, i.e. has no phone listing, but the article says "he is head of a company...". I searched high and low, I can't find him as a business owner in any directory up here, I don't find but the two articles about him, one of which is not from a reliable source and the other one is about his "hummingbird feeder mask" which is not available for sale. He has no awards, no recognition by others, only the one "New York Times" article.  So I think he's kind of a 15-minute wonder, and not notable. I wonder why people think he's notable enough at all to write about?  He makes cheezy candle lanterns.  He has no patents, and only 2 products on his website.  By that standard of notability, everyone with an ETSY account and a newspaper article is now a notable artist or inventor.  I have read all the pages for deletion information and I really don't think this man meets the notability guidelines.  Or am I missing something?  Mostly all the help I need is guidance, I'll figure out how to fill out the forms.  Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, the way I see it, your arguments are:
 * WP:RS The only reliable source is the NYT article.  The RV site is advertising and the gadget site is a fansite type compilation, akin to roadgeek sites; both unreliable.  You would also mention that google news, book, scholar and web searches showed no other reliable sources.
 * WP:N Although the article in the NYT is a thorough article about him and his work, the non existence of any other sources shows lack of "significant" coverage in the media.
 * Again if I can be of any further help, let me know. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Only to see if I did this right ... Articles for deletion/Doyle Doss. Thank you!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is there now and the arguments are mostly solid. The bit about the times article and home and garden being virtually identical is important.  I assume your long quote in the first bullet is from WP:N.. You need to say so.  Also, if you ever do this again, brevity is good.  WP:TLDR.  The last four bullets are pretty much spurious.  I would remove them.  You should probably rewrite your rationale, into two or three sentences.  Make one or two about the Times and Home and garden (mention by name and link) being the same, evidencing being from a press release, and mentioning the pic credit to the subject of the article; mention WP:N andWP:RS as the policies applicable.  Make the other a brief description of the lack of reliability in the other sources on the article. Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, since the !votes are usually set off by bullets, using bullets in the rationale is kinda confusing, so you should just write a pragraph. Hope this is helpful, and when asked to review something, I am very direct, so please don't be offended. Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not offended at all, I'm learning how to do this. Ellin Beltz (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: January 2013
Fixed the citation. I'll be more careful about that in the future. Sorry.

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Agoura HS
Sorry but I can't follow one part of what you say: "the solution is going to end up being with the editor, not the article". (If you mean with a block of the editor rather than protection of the article, then no, the former is unlikely to work, because he keeps returning with new throwaway IDs.) Incidentally, I'm happy to see that you've been improving the article. -- Hoary (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thank You Gtwfan for the heads up...
Thank you soo much Gtwfan!!! I think I was kind of over-enthusiastic and so I put up my info on the page. I will remember not to make a mess of it again and edit it to perfection without unnecessary info.... Thank again for the heads up!!!:) if you don't mind could also recheck my page once I've corrected it????Ajayupai95 (talk) 01:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Rolling Ball
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Amble
It has already been talked about at Talk:Amble. Someone - not me - re-removed the disputed, alleged commercial site some hours ago and there appears to be agreement that one, at least, should not be there. The other fails WP:ELNO.--2.219.231.166 (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

LaSalle
Is it okay if I add back the land area? I was at the city council meeting when they announced the annexation. — Precedingunsigned comment added by99.29.140.94 (talk) 22:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No. If the newspaper writes about the council meeting and mentions the figure, or when the minutes of the meeting get published, either on the web or in a newspaper, you can re-add it then and cite that.  personal knowledge cannot be used for a reference on Wikipedia. Thanks, tho, and please do re-add it when you can reference it. Gtwfan52 (talk) 22:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Niu Ben
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About the Article Revision
First of all, thanks for giving me all of these resources to help get me started. I appreciate it :)

But I noticed one thing. While talking about why you rolled back the article, you said, "A whole bunch of the stuff I took out was stuff talking about how accomplished or famous or renowned the school was at something". That is true; I did notice that there was that "non-encyclopedia" feel in this article. But I didn't write the entire article. The only thing I revised was the "Drama" subsection and the only things I did with that are moving things around, linking items, and changing a couple of words, nothing relating to what you said and nothing that major. I'm assuming you thought I rewrote the article and I see why you may think that was as I did copy and re-paste the entire article (with my edits) into the page. I just wanted to clear up the confusion that what you saw wrong with the article was most likely not due to me and likely due to the words of another.

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Rolling Meadows: 26 January 201:
I made updates to rolling meadows notable alumni - would you be able to add those back on or let me know how to attach an appropriate reference -Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by166.137.100.20 (talk) 04:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Dracula (2013 film)
Can you take another look at the CSD tags you put on Dracula (2013 film)?

First, A7 does not apply, period, in the case of films. It applies to companies, people, specific animals, and web content, but not feature films.

Second, I agree that the article read like promo text: that's why I took the hatchet to the entire plot summary, doubly because it was unsourced. It's a basic stub now, and I don't see anything that is promotional in tone.

The article could easily be nominated for deletion via the AfD process—and I'd have to take a hard look at WP:NFILM before chiming in there, but I do not think it's unsalvageable spam.—C.Fred (talk) 06:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * They aren't even claiming a release date so it fails per WP:CRYSTAL, looking at the movie's website, it doesn't appear they even have a distribution company. So ya, PROD  then AfD it is.Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Fairview Alpha Wildcats
This site seems legitimate. -- Wikipedical (talk) 12:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a website for a junior high school, the only thing in that community. The infobox says "Wildcats university" and the weblink in it goes nowhere.  Gtwfan52 (talk) 12:46, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback
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Progress on WP:Snuggle and work log
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I am honored to receive the EOTW award. I can tell you that some of the remote places have folks still there who are also proud to see their slice of heaven on Wikipedia! MUCh appreciatedCoal town guy (talk) 14:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Fairview Alpha
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January 2013
Sorry about my good faith edits. I will add sources accordingly. -- Ricky — Preceding unsigned comment added by RickyBowers66 (talk •contribs) 08:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

California–Ukraine National Guard Partnership
You helped me last week so I thought I'd asked you. I've made 22 pages recently (links found herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._European_Command_State_Partnership_Program) and almost all of them are showing problems that to me are not problems at all. I'm frustrated beyond words to see nitpicky 'issues' like these brought up like the ones below. I thought after endless hours of reading and learning about Wikipedia that I knew enough to make a decent page but the better I build these pages the more resistance I get. I see so many pages with so little useful information and no issues brought up on them. I fill mine with great information and it's just one issue after another.

''This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. Please improve this article by removing excessive or inappropriate external links, and converting useful links where appropriate into footnote references. (January 2013)'' How are my external links any less worthwhile than are other wiki pages? Everyone of them provides very relevant information about the subject. Why bother saying 'may'? Either it is or isn't within guidelines. If it's not, say why. Don't just say 'may' and leave it at that!

''This article's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia's guide to writing better articles for suggestions. (January 2013)''

Where? Can I please have an example? ''This section is in a list format that may be better presented using prose. You can help by converting this section to prose, if appropriate. Editing help is available.''

'May'? Again? I think the comment is wrong, so what do I do? Change it anyway or leave it?

Thanks. Briansmith451 (talk) 12:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Brian:
 * Firstly, those messages are called maintenance tags. They point out things that the person who applied them thinks needs to be fixed.  There is no deadline on this and it doesn't have to be you that fixes them.  None are for issues serious enough that your articles might get taken down.  Remember that as soon as you put the article up on Wikipedia, it is no longer yours.  anyone can and will edit it.


 * Now, that being said, if you point me to the specific issues on the specific articles, I will be happy to take a look at them and help you get them fixed. Happy editing.Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. But the problem is, I don't know what needs to be fixed on two of the issues. Apparently someone thinks my Links aren't appropriate and that my bullet lists aren't good. There isn't any real information that tells me anything useful. If someone put a little more effort into telling me what was wrong (besides referring me to an enormous Wiki page to read), I would have no problem fixing. But when I'm shooting from the hip, I know it's going to be a wild goose chase.Briansmith451 (talk) 07:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Like I said, if you give me the names of the articles in question, I'll be happy to look.Gtwfan52 (talk) 11:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I thought the title of my section 'California–Ukraine National Guard Partnership' would tell you. I have 22 pages but if you could tell me what's wrong with just this one then I can fix all of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_-_Ukraine_National_Guard_Partnership. Btw, I delete the tags saying my links may be wrong hoping that would draw interst from whoever put it on there so I could ask that person directly. Thanks. Briansmith451 (talk) 11:42, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * All you have to do to see who put a tag on an article is look at its history. You shouldn't remove maint. tags until the problem is remedied.  Since you don't understand what the problem is I doubt it is remedied.
 * On California–Ukraine National Guard Partnership, Your list of links is pretty lengthy for the length of your article and generally, linking to YouTube is discouraged. You should readWP:EL.
 * As far as tone goes, the second paragraph is making some pretty far reaching claims. That should be toned down and sourced.  Every quote you use must be attributed to a publication somewhere.  The quote from MAJ Sven Olson is not.
 * Looking through further, in the fourth paragraph of the history section, you say "In 2011, California participated in the single largest Air National Guard exchange in the partnerships history." Any time you make a claim of largest, best, etc. it needs to be referenced.  We only report on what others have written.  All in all, the tag is correct.  The overall tone of the article is somewhat promotional.  Think boring.  We just report...
 * BTW, to link to an article, all you need to do is put double brackets around the exact title, Like this: California–Ukraine National Guard Partnership produces thisCalifornia–Ukraine National Guard Partnership. Gtwfan52 (talk) 12:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

This is all I needed to know. I just think it's lame for someone to put up a tag without any discussion as to why. Now I know how to fix. Thanks. Briansmith451 (talk) 12:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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A little help please
Hey- I want to get the list of WV counties to FA list staus. I think its ready. Take a look[here] and tell me what you think. I will of course be seeking a few opinionsCoal town guy (talk) 23:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * it looks good. you should be aware that lists don't get FA status, but I am sure there is an equivalent for lists.  Looking at some featured lists of counties here, your list seems on par.  The ones I looked at had more prose copy, but they were on states that have been around longer than WV. Gtwfan52 (talk) 23:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I ran checklinks on it and found a dead link, which I fixed. Gtwfan52 (talk) 23:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * MANY Thanks, means alot!!
 * Meant to say, there is a FL (Featured List) status, sorry about the lack of clarity on my partCoal town guy (talk) 00:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

BIPAP
Hello Gtwfan52 - I did mention in the edit that BIPAP is not synonymous with NIPPV or NIV. BIPAP is a mode of ventilation, whereas NIPPV/NIV are methods of ventilation. BIPAP can still be delivered through IPPV. The reference is used in error - the actual text quoted is "Ventilatory support can be achieved through a variety of interfaces (mouth piece or nasal, face, or helmet mask), using a variety of ventilatory modes (eg, volume ventilation, pressure support, bilevel positive airway pressure". It is my belief the reference has been misinterpreted - and therefore the statement is wrong and misleading. Please can you remove the statement. Thanks — Preceding unsignedcomment added by 194.176.105.147 (talk) 01:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)