User talk:John of Reading/Archive 21

Ohio Portal
Moved from my user page -- John of Reading (talk) 06:08, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the edit today I am using voice recognition so I apologize for any grammatical or syntax errors in advance.

What would we need to do to create our own portal and start our own Wiki project?

My aim is to be the subject matter expert on Amish social settlements in Ohio.

I have a Amish friend does not want to use the internet but needs to have his companies listed to compete so I am in a catch-22 and am looking for Wikipedia subject matter experts unsocial settlements in Ohio.

Any assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated and I will make sure to provide you proper attribution. Please leave any suggestions on your talk page or on mine thank you in advance.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by COACH ZARLINO (talk • contribs) 01:43, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If you are at Wikipedia to promote your friend's companies, this is unlikely to turn out well. I suggest you read through the relevant FAQ page, FAQ/Organizations, particularly the first two sections, which explain it all more clearly than I can. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business directory, and it does not aim to have a page on every company.
 * If you are at Wikipedia to promote your friend's companies, this is unlikely to turn out well. I suggest you read through the relevant FAQ page, FAQ/Organizations, particularly the first two sections, which explain it all more clearly than I can. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business directory, and it does not aim to have a page on every company.


 * You can read about portals at Portal and Portal guidelines. A portal should introduce a broad topic area covered by dozens or even hundreds of Wikipedia articles. There's an "Ohio" portal and an "Anabaptism" portal. There's no "Amish" portal, and looking at Category:Amish I doubt if there is enough material. An "Amish in Ohio" topic area would definitely be too narrow. You can read about WikiProjects at WikiProject. Starting a new WikiProject is a major undertaking, and I don't think you should try this.


 * I recommend that you post a request for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ohio, as a message there will be seen by the editors most interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of Ohio topics. For transparency, you should mention your interest in promoting your friend's companies. If your friend is paying you in any way to edit Wikipedia, then you must disclose this under Wikipedia's terms of use. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


 * PS I moved your post from my "user page" to this page, my "user talk page", since discussions belong on the talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

AMISH:PORTAL
John I am using voice recognition so I apologize for any grammatical or syntax errors in advance.

Yes I understand that starting a new project is a major undertaking and I do not have the experience to do it myself.

I am looking for people such as yourself that actually take the time to help newbies like myself instead of just slamming me and kicking me off the website in a microsecond.

I am 55 years old and have nothing to do but contribute to this disenfranchised population in the United States of America.

Specifically speaking concerning adding companies and promoting I am confused on why I look at other companies and they are all over Wikipedia with the founders when it was founded all the history and so on and so forth so every incubator starts somewhere every Think Tank start somewhere and every company starts somewhere so I don't understand how promoting a history of the American Amish Association as well as all of the companies that are a part of that process is any different than Ford Motor Company or my or Wikipedia or Google or any other company that you can think of.

I understand that I don't have the technical knowledge to produce the wonderful pages and projects that are out there but I do understand how important it is that the American Amish Association opportunity to compete in the marketplace without breaking any rules on any of the web pages that Jimmy Wales started in his vision was to produce quality information and relative related research.

In the the meantime I personally need to earn a small amount of income so I can continue to pay my very modest bills as well as provide food and shelter for my family so the American Amish Association was born because of that need.

We are a 501-c3 and we will be doing everything by the book our tax ID number for the Enterprise is 81 - 266-3933 and the Articles of Incorporation will be listed on John used heads website in the great state of Ohio.

Once again I want to thank you John for helping me and setting me on the straight and narrow I will not and do not intend to break any of the Wikipedia laws or Internet laws I only want to follow the I can laws and register every URL that will be referenced on this project. If you never started a company before John it takes 1 liter and a ton of great Wikipedia editors.

I am the one leader because I am the resident agent fiduciary agent statutory agent for the Miller Enterprise Corporation which owns every one of the American Amish Association members.

This is truly a rickety Wikipedia project unlike any other because the Amish do not believe in using the internet so why not develop this project on the 10th largest website in the world.

This gives every Wikipedia editor an opportunity to reach out into the community in which they serve and learn about the Amish Culture and documented properly in the five months that I have been involved with my due diligence I trulli understand that the media has no clue on what they have published I have found one decent documented there that was done a couple of years ago but other than that it's mostly Hollywood stuff and none of it is accurate. COACH ZARLINO (talk) 11:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia only aims to have pages for companies that other people, completely independent of the company, have already written about. So Wikipedia has articles about Ford/Google/Wikipedia because authors have published whole books about these companies, respected newspapers have written substantial articles about them, respected news websites have reported on what they are doing, and so on. You can see all these independent sources listed as references in these articles. The Wikipedia jargon for this is "notability", and there's lots more about it at Notability (organizations and companies).


 * Most companies, in contrast, don't attract this level of outside interest and do not qualify for an article at Wikipedia. The company website might have a "History" section, the company's press releases might get published online somewhere, and the company's managers might be able to write an article from what they know personally, but there is not the kind of independent reliable sourcing that is required.


 * I refer you again to the FAQ page FAQ/Organizations. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Subject Matter Experts
John Wikipedia editor, all of your points are valid but none of them will ever happen. The Amish do not want to provide the material content needed to us "Yankees". They are a modern day disenfranchised race residing in the Noth American continant. They do not want to use the internet. When Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the internet his thoughts to this day have nit changed. We are surrounded by iteratees that do not care about how any of this works they just want relative related reseach forked inyo the pda they are not suposed to own. Hence, that'siwhete "we" "us" come inro play. Search the nternet and you will see nobody is going to write a book about any of the things that you point out about other than Jimmy's platdorm. This is truly a Tricky Ricky catch 22. Adobe is a trusted resource chech out how they have copied my code without attribution or motinization. #Amish_Social_Settlement_Authorship_All_Rights_Rserved I am a retired Navy veteran with 21 years of experience using multi billion-dollar Weapons Systems then 16 plus years using top secrect knowledge to help mom and dad find the coupon vode for free pizza. .gititnow? I have been on the internet since 1974 when my brother brother brought me home an atari game counsel and I played pong. I hooked it up to my black and white TV console. after I learned all of the levels available at the time I took apart the console and I figured out how it worked and what a resistor was in the other electronic component components I was 14 years old.

How is it possible for people to write about culture without inviting themselves into the community which I have.

I have literally moved to the historic Middlefield village located in the social settlement Geauga County in the great state of Ohio I live in the building where are the Amish person hired me to do all of the things that you said about where do I go from here? This is truly a start-up Wikipedia project and deserves its own portal please advise. There is nobody on this other than you and I John you cannot get any more ground floor than this. Author #fb.me/Randi Dot Complicated #Amish {COACH ZARLINO (talk) 10:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)}

Amish:Portal
Thanks again. John of Reading https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psiQLb67kAs The 00:39 video validates local locations libation. User:COACH ZARLINO —Preceding undated comment added 13:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * You are indeed in a Catch-22 situation. I have left a message on your talk page, which mostly repeats what I have said already. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

User:John of Reading:John of Reading
good morning John of reading once again thank you for your continued edits as I receive the red dots on the top of my page I tried to keep our conversation on one link with the amount of content that is uploaded and downloaded from this truly Visionary web page I understand why there are over two hundred and thirty-eight different languages from around the world using this phenomenal web page. when the founder Jimmy Wales asks for donations on this site I think you really only need to give a penny to raise millions of dollars in one day it's amazing how the enlightened can make a difference and capture resonators vprotect the human race to protect the human race voice recognition added Amy I'm not sure why from the resistance.

I appreciate your edits and look forward to your Mentor ship in the future in the meantime I need to figure out a way to add the company's without me adding the company an interesting catch-22 especially when the folks that I represent cannot use a telephone or a laptop or a PDA personal digital assistant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by COACH ZARLINO (talk • contribs) 10:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I have no interest in acting as your mentor. Please do not attempt to use Wikipedia to advertise your friend's companies. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Infobox Images
DUDE!!!! Finally managed to get AWB setup on my PC (still can't get it working on my mac ) and your script worked like GOLD!!! Thank you so much! I'd done over 2,000 of the pages manually but your script is SO MUCH FASTER!!!! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:40, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, glad to have helped! Yes, I put some effort into getting those find-and-replace rules working. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:59, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Well your work very much paid off! Just wanted you to know that you posting it for others was SUPER helpful! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:09, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Two captions
the caption for the picture is picture_caption not caption. the caption for the top image is caption. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holy_Savior_Menard_Central_High_School&type=revision&diff=730806486&oldid=700756019 your edits are putting the caption with the wrong image]. Frietjes (talk) 22:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. I'm well aware of picture_caption, static_image_caption and all the others, but this one slipped through. I'll have a look back through my caption edits from earlier this week, later today. -- John of Reading (talk) 02:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * someone should check Zackmann08's edits as well. for example [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mudgee_High_School&type=revision&diff=730593547&oldid=696031784 here], where there is no understanding of the difference between the caption for the image and the caption for the logo. and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vasilije_Ojdanić&type=revision&diff=730459129&oldid=728295178 here] where there is no check for duplicate captions. Frietjes (talk) 13:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately yes. I looked through 40-50 of Zackmann08's contributions yesterday and disagreed with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=201607212359&limit=13&contribs=user&target=John+of+Reading&namespace=&tagfilter= several of them]. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Zero argument from me here. I accept full responsibility. The AWB script I was using is not as infallible as I thought it was. NOT an excuse, just an explanation. I greatly appreciate the checking of my work. Moving forward on this I'm not using the script anymore. Going to do them manually and make sure that the captions line up with the images. I want to reiterate that I really do appreciate the oversight. I'm trying to improve things NOT make them worse. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Chinese Remainder Theorem
Hello John, You helped me get started editing WP and have helped me in the past-- I seek your advice again, as I sense an edit war brewing. Perhaps you could read the first 3 or 4 sections of the WP article "Chinese remainder theorem" as far you can. (The lead has been vastly improved from a month ago.) Then please read the talk page section 4 "More practical approach". In response to the frustration expressd there by JSoules and the remark that followed, I added there a "Not too technical example", which was moved to the bottom of the page as a new section by D.Lazard, together with a note to me on my talk page. And some warnings to me on his talk page.

As you can see from our exchange below my example on the CRT talk page, he thinks my example is not sufficiently encyclopedic, although I find this in MOS:MATH "an encyclopedic tone can make advanced mathematical topics more difficult to learn"  and  "The articles should be accessible, as much as possible, readers not already familiar with the subject matter." I also note that the use of "we" is discouraged, although my NTT example makes use of it freely. I can probably re-write most of those "we"s, although I think in an example as opposed to the more formal sections, they encourage understanding.

In the interest of jointy composing some compromise I asked D.Lazard for an example of his table but it's been a week now. I am tempted to fix up the NTT example a little and then put it directly into the main CRT page, but D.Lazard on his talk page has warned me it will be reverted. See his last paragraphs to me there.

Or I could ask him please to leave the example on the main page for a month to see how other editors respond.

Or I could give up and withdraw. What do you advise? RobLandau (talk) 08:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm hesitant to give any advice on this, as I try to stick to cleanup edits that no one will notice! I don't think I've ever tried to add a large section to an established article; nor have I tried to add content to mathematics articles, despite having a degree in the subject. I'll post an idea on the CRT talk page, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:57, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

John: I would like to cite this helpful site to applications and examples of the CRT: http://mathoverflow.net/questions/10014/applications-of-the-chinese-remainder-theorem/10022#10022 perhaps in the External Links section. At the bottom of the page it notes: "user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required" Would this present any problem? RobLandau (talk) 09:37, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Three cases here:


 * Just linking to an external page doesn't violate any copyright or usage terms on that page. The licensing conditions at mathoverflow.net wouldn't get in the way of adding it as an external link. Wikipedia's rules on External Links might prevent adding the link, though, so it would be worth suggesting it on the talk page first.
 * Citing any page as a source is fine provided you reword everything sufficiently. For example, all pages at the BBC website are marked "Copyright © 2016 BBC", but the BBC is regarded as a very reliable source for information in Wikipedia articles.
 * The CC BY-SA license at mathoverflow.net is a "free enough" license for text to be copied from there into Wikipedia without re-wording. To provide the necessary attribution, use a clear edit summary for the edit that adds the text (Something like "Adds text from contributed to mathoverflow.net by licensed under CC BY-SA 3"), and add a CCBYSASource to the foot of the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:25, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Reference errors on 24 July
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 * -- John of Reading (talk) 06:05, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

It can't last
Hi John,

I have done some work in War of the Pacific that must be reviewed. It would be great if you can do it!. Thanxs anyway, -- Keysanger (talk) 12:17, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't comment on whether it will last or not, but I have fixed some spellings! -- John of Reading (talk) 13:32, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * !. -- Keysanger (talk) 07:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Request Photo Template
John, thanks for working on the change I requested related to the specific county. I had one additional thought on this. I've noticed that there are some major cities that have categories also, e.g. Portland, Oregon and Los Angeles, California. For these cases, the template should NOT drop the city. It should probably try to match the category first (as it is passed to the template), and only if that category doesn't exist, they try the partial match on the part after the comma. Not sure if you already took this into consideration. MB 15:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, my coding tries to match the whole "in" parameter first. I've added "Los Angeles, California" to the Template:Photo requested/testcases page as a check - both the old and new versions say "Wikipedians in Los Angeles, California may be able to help!" -- John of Reading (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Here is another check you may want to try: Talk:Wesley_Matthews, it has three different "in"'s, including a city/state and the same state.   MB  15:51, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added that to the test cases. That's a different part of the template, which I didn't change. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Hungryhouse
You made a mistake re hungryhouse. I can only screen print my twitter messages. I am first party source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.55.24 (talk) 02:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Twitter messages have a URL; for details of how to cite them, see Template:Cite tweet. However, that template page warns that "Tweets are largely not acceptable as sources". Instead, if there is a dispute involving Hungryhouse, the Wikipedia article should only summarise what, if anything, has been said about it in mainstream news media. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Twitter messages have a URL; for details of how to cite them, see Template:Cite tweet. However, that template page warns that "Tweets are largely not acceptable as sources". Instead, if there is a dispute involving Hungryhouse, the Wikipedia article should only summarise what, if anything, has been said about it in mainstream news media. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

New article improvement drives
Check out the following new article improvement drives/contests. North America1000 12:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The 10,000 Challenge – aims to reach 10,000 article improvements for UK- and Ireland-related articles
 * WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge – aims to reach 10,000 article improvements for Africa-related articles

Message
Hi John,

Its me, HumanIdea. Can you please delete your message to me at Talk:Sayako? Because I was not offended, but I did not change my article's quality scale in the into Class-A anymore. I swear I won't change it anymore.HumanIdea (talk) 07:47, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough! ✅ -- John of Reading (talk) 10:20, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Tick Borne Disease Alliance post
Hi John. I made the edits on the TIck Borne Disease Alliance page as it no longer exists. It merged with another group to become Global Lyme Alliance, the group I'm associated with. Thanks for helping me make this change.Holly.wainwright (talk) 20:52, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for getting back to me! I found some independent news coverage of the merger and have used it to update the TBDA article. For an article on the Global Lyme Alliance to exist, there needs to be substantial independent news coverage of it. I've had a quick look, but most of the news coverage seems to be a quick mention of the GLA in the context of someone attending your gala events, which I doubt is enough. If you work your way down the first few sections in the FAQ page for organisations then you will have a clearer idea of what is needed. -- John of Reading (talk) 02:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for getting back to me! I found some independent news coverage of the merger and have used it to update the TBDA article. For an article on the Global Lyme Alliance to exist, there needs to be substantial independent news coverage of it. I've had a quick look, but most of the news coverage seems to be a quick mention of the GLA in the context of someone attending your gala events, which I doubt is enough. If you work your way down the first few sections in the FAQ page for organisations then you will have a clearer idea of what is needed. -- John of Reading (talk) 02:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

i just added link
Hello Sir i just added a link and you says that its spam??? http://www.lowratelocksmith.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.161.71.43 (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's right. An encyclopedia article needs to be backed up by references to scholarly works, books and such like, not by links to web pages for particular locksmith companies. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Dante Pavan soccer
Dante Pavan is a young soccer player who was born in Brampton Ontario on August 11 1997. Dante was involved with the provincial soccer program at a young age. Dante went to Italy for a tryout with Bologna FC and later went to Fidenza calcio who played in serie D. He was pick to play in the Torneo del Regioni which he represented the region Emilia Romagna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Writingstories (talk • contribs) 18:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * This isn't a good page to post text for the encyclopedia. I suggest you read through "Your first article". -- John of Reading (talk) 19:04, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

25k+ page-transclusion request
Hi John, you've helped me with a request similar to this some time ago. If you have the time, I hope you could help me out again.

I'm going through transclusions of the 24 simplest-to-remove templates in Category:Templates not safe for use in citation templates and looking for possible offenders. Some of these templates transclude > (>>) 25,000 pages so I can't go any deeper than that. Could you get the full transclusion list for these templates? So... that's like 3 million pages total; yeah if you don't feel like doing that I understand. Regardless, do you know if there's a way I could do this myself without an RfA? ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 14:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  - 391k
 * 2)  - 148k
 * 3)  - 27k
 * 4)  - 533k
 * 5)  - 327k
 * 6)  - 28k
 * 7)  - 1,458k (not a typo...)
 * Hmm, no, I don't know a way to get the full transclusion list, either. But suppose I did, and managed to post a list of the 391k articles that use abbr - what would be your next step? AWB can process articles at roughly one a second, maximum, so doing anything with that list would take several days. I could perhaps come up with a regular expression that would catch  where one of these templates is used inside a citation template inside a reference. Then a database scan would produce a much more useful list.
 * As an aside, I'm not convinced by efforts to clean up metadata by restricting the markup that can be used inside citation templates. Is it really not possible to spot, say,  inside a citation field, and remove the span tags from the metadata? But I assume that's been discussed elsewhere. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:23, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess a db scan is the best work-around. I already have the regex for it so I'll just do that. Thanks for the suggestion!
 * Well, the CS1 parameters are meant to be literal (give or take wikilink brackets, usually) and not evaluated, so there is use in cleaning them up. I'm not cleaning up  CS1 markup at the moment, but there's probably a CS1 maint category for that (or should be).   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:49, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I had to setup ~10 separate db scans overnight, organized by title-starting-character to get around the 30k result limit, ugh. I found quite a bit though!  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  12:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * That 30,000 limit is configurable on the "Searching" tab of the database scanner. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ^&*@#$%(*!  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  12:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Olive taking medicine
Hi John: Thanks for your message. I deleted the line about Olive taking medicine that was intended for Jack Pickford's syphilis because it's an unproven rumor that he had the disease. Unfortunately some historians have repeated this as fact. Best, M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madcapheiress25 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've copied your message to Talk:Olive Thomas and have replied there. A conversation there will be seen by all the editors interested in the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Grammatical Corrections - Swedish Intervention in Thirty Years War
Thanks for your corrections to the article I'm currently working on, Swedish Intervention in the Thirty Years War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oranjin6 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * And thank you for noticing! -- John of Reading (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * And thank you for noticing! -- John of Reading (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Broken ref tags
Hi. We have a huge backlog in CHECKWIKI/WPC 104 dump I wonder if you could help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:31, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll put this on my to-do list. I'll start at "J". -- John of Reading (talk) 08:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Why is Kaikalas on the list? Yes, it has newlines inside the ref tag where most articles use spaces, but the core software seems to cope with it. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:14, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll ask NicoV to check false positives. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Quoting ref names
Hey. I was wondering why ref names should be in quotes. I normally don't quote them, but if there's a good reason to I'll do it from now on. Thanks, Lizard  (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Most simple names don't need quotes. If you stick to letters, numbers and some punctuation characters, there is no need to add quotes. The exact list is at WP:REFNAME. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah I see. Then I should be good since I normally don't use spaces or odd characters. This was what brought it to my attention (which seems to be the common case of someone confusing ref name with title). Lizard  (talk) 16:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

The the
Sorry I didn't realise you were patrolling for that one. I should have guessed from the relatively low number I was finding.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  19:00, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! It was nice to see my list disappear more quickly than usual. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series
The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate.


 * Use   to invite others using this template.
 * Sent to users at Northamerica1000/Mailing list using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC).

Thanks
Hey john, long time to speak. Glad you are still fixing those typos! Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 15:15, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm still at it! Thank you for the barnstar! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:23, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

term "June's Head" on Field, BC article
Hi, on the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field,_British_Columbia I saw that you changed this sentence "On the actual site of Kicking Horse Campground, several nice homes were built for head people of the mines" to " On the actual site of Kicking Horse Campground, several upscale homes were built for the June's heads." I'm curious, what does this term "June's Heads" mean? I have never heard this before and cannot find any use of this online. Was this a mistake? Perhaps this sentence should be removed altogether, as there is no reference for this information, and these homes no longer exist. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtobey (talk • contribs) 22:20, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No, my edit was this one, changing just one word. "June's Heads" was added in the following edit by . I don't know what it means.
 * The previous version of the text was added in this 2014 edit by an editor who is no longer active. Unfortunately that text matches this web site so I fear we have to treat the whole section as a copyright violation. It's possible that the same author posted the text at Wikipedia and at the external web site, but we can't be sure. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've contacted via email the user who added the history section in the first place. I believe the intention of the original author was to publish the content to wikipedia. We should have a answer soon.Mtobey (talk)
 * That should read "June's heads". No idea how that happened, I will change it if no one else has. (I thought "upscale" read better than "nice". Primergrey (talk) 13:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

It seems my two-dollar tablet likes to change "mine's" to "June's" (it just tried it again). I realize that part of the article is gone but I don't need one more person thinking I'm an idiot. Thx. Primergrey (talk) 14:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining! Isn't technology wonderful? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Help, please, for Whey...
The intro for this article states
 * Acid whey is manufactured during the making of rennet types of hard cheese like cheddar or Swiss cheese. Sweet whey (also known as "sour whey") is a co-product produced during the making of acid types of dairy products such as cottage cheese or strained yogurt.

Whereas under 'Production' it states
 * Sweet whey is the co-product of rennet-coagulated cheese and acid whey (also called sour whey) is the co-product of acid-coagulated cheese.

Now is that a contradiction or am I reading it wrong? If the former, could you correct it or bring in someone who can? If the latter... please clarify my confusion. All the Best! Shir-El  too  08:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with this subject; it looks odd to me that "sweet whey" should also be known as "sour whey". I've copied your message to Talk:Whey, the usual place for article-specific queries, so that it will be seen by the editors most interest in improving this article. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:50, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Shir-El   too  06:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * And thank you for the barnstar! -- John of Reading (talk) 10:16, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Margaret (singer)
Hi, I've recently been working on this article and nominated it for GA. I've found you through the 'Referencing for beginnings' talk page. Just wanted to ask if you could have a look at its referencing and assess it, because I still have a problem with distinguishing 'publisher' from 'work', and I know what each means but I'm not always sure which one to use. ArturSik (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That article uses cite web and its companion templates, which is "Citation Style 1". The main help page for those is Help:Citation Style 1 and the section on 'publisher' and 'work' is half way down. I'd better confess that I've never read that section before! When I'm more awake I'll have a look through the Margaret article. For specific queries about using the CS1 templates you'll usually get a quick response at Help talk:Citation Style 1. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

All the best for 2017!
 '''Hello , Enjoy the Winter Solstice and the Christmas and holiday season'''. Thank you for all your good work during 2016 in maintaining, improving and expanding Wikipedia. All the best for 2017! Cheers, — Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh &#124; Buzzard &#124; 16:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you sir
Thank you sir for adding me to a group of wikifamily have good time on Christmas and a happy new year — Preceding unsigned comment added by Munaah eleven (talk • contribs) 10:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- John of Reading (talk) 10:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:03, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

thanks again for the clean up on the Timeline of Salem, Massachusetts
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C466:9970:9CBE:87AE:DE67:6878 (talk) 22:04, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- John of Reading (talk) 22:13, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

this is a town that had so many crooked politicians and now is finally on the move up, so for me, it is really important these little pages for salem...i know wiki is a thankless job, but i see the code & you are more of a stand up guy to the city than most of the past mayors who sold it down the river while robbing it blind

this new mayor is something else, but she a don't know how to a code..

thanks again and have a nice holiday

Editor of the Week seeking nominations (and a new facilitator)
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Help
Hello John! I wanted to ask for your help to help detect an issue we have on the Central Kurdish Wikipedia, we wanted to redesign the Arts Portal, we are trying to use the template random portal component, and are still testing on the portal to see how it is going, but there is this expression error that I can't figure out how to fix. I have read the help of the RPC template, and we also created one of the subpages here that the RPC template requires to work, but still there's an error that I can't fix. I would appreciate if you take a look at that for me. Thank you! (The errors and templates are all in English, we won't translate it until we get the issue fixed)—‎ Lost Whispers talk 10:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't test anything easily because the templates are semi-protected, but I can perhaps get you one step forwards. Where the templates fetch the current time in seconds using, that returns   or similar here, but   or similar at the Central Kurdish Wikipedia. Numbers in that character set are not understood by #expr. Try adding an "en" language code   to force the "time in seconds" to be output using the digits 0-9. You'll need to make that change in your "Rand" template and in your "Random portal component" template. I can't guarantee anything but it's worth a try... -- John of Reading (talk) 11:20, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your response! I've made the edits on both of the templates here and here, is this the right way?—‎ Lost Whispers talk 14:46, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep the problem is fixed! Thank you so much! You are a life saver!—‎ Lost Whispers talk 14:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey, really sorry to pester you again, but it seems that you're the only one that knows about the random portal component around here. Do you have any clue why it doesn't work properly on the previous portal I stated above? The error is gone now, but it just won't change the article, it's always the first article, no matter how much I purge or reload the page it won't work. I have checked the max value and everything, they said that it had to be equal to the number of articles in the archive, i made sure it is that way but the problem hasn't been solved yet. I'm not really sure who to contact on this so you're my only hope.—‎ Lost Whispers talk 08:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll have a look at it later today. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you track down a friendly Central Kurdish Wikipedia admin to grant me "confirmed" status there so that I can edit those templates? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅! check here, it might take a while. Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it.
 * ✅, at least until you find the next problem. Just don't ask me to edit anything written in Kurdish! -- John of Reading (talk) 11:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * haha! I doubt it will come to that but I won't promise that I won't ask for your help again in the future. Thank you so much, I don't know how to pay you back really! You're the best.—‎ Lost Whispers talk 12:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Benefited?
Double 't' surely? H N Year.Keith-264 (talk) 09:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I checked the usage notes at Wiktionary before saving the edit. But since you've queried it, and several dictionaries seem to allow it as a variant, I'll adjust my spelling rule not to make this change in future. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I hesitated for a while too but since you do such good work, I won't quibble with your preference. I thought that the double t was universal but found that it wasn't. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello!
FYI --JustBerry (talk) 15:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Template NFL staff footer outdated
I was wondering since you are an admin and were the last person to update Template:NFL staff footer that you could do it again since it has not been updated with the recent relocation of the Los Angeles Chargers from San Diego. Thanks for your time. --GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 03:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've made the edit - the edit request wasn't picked up because the Edit template-protected template was missing. I'm not an admin, by the way, but have the "template editor" user right. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I apologize for not doing my research about that. --GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 13:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Trump
hi! thank you for the fix of the trump extension. I had no idea it would edit text within a page, not just the display. totally embarassed! --RocketDwiki (talk) 05:38, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! You're not the first editor to be caught out by one of those. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Update
Hello JoR. I wanted to update you in regard to our posts at the "Files for Discussion" page. It look like there are only two pics left created by that (those) editor(s). The one being discussed here and the one you posted about at Commons. I did use Db-f10 on another pic that they had created and it was deleted yesterday. Although I would like to get these last two off of WikiP and Commons ASAP I also don't mind letting the discussion process run its course. My delete post at Commons is the only edit that I have ever made there - I don't know whether that will be a problem or not. Could I ask you to keep an eye on how that one goes? Thanks for your time and efforts. I hope that you have a pleasant week - jeepers the first month of 2017 has flown by. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:41, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that the Commons regulars are used to editors from other Wikipedias dropping in! I have the discussion and the images watchlisted at Commons; we'll see. And thank you for you good wishes. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. Thanks for letting me know about Commons. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Deltopia for deletion
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 * Thank you for the notification, but I only fixed a spelling mistake in that article, and that was over four years ago. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

CSS styling in templates
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Some baklava for you!

 * Baklava is always welcome! -- John of Reading (talk) 10:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of 2016 NCAA Division I Men's Soccer Championship Game for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2016 NCAA Division I Men's Soccer Championship Game is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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 * Thank you, but there is really no need to notify editors who have only made insignificant 'minor' edits to the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:02, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi John of Reading, I just wanted to let you know that I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3A added] the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! -- Samtar talk &middot; contribs 11:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and also thank you Cabayi for the compliments in your nomination. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Ghapp
Is this the get help app?? Wardejon (talk) 10:38, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No, you're posting at a behind-the-scenes page at Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. Are you looking for a "Get Help App" website? A web search found http://www.freereentry.org/get-help-app-ghapp.html - is that what you are looking for? -- John of Reading (talk) 13:38, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes thank you so much but why's is This? I'm not sure what's up with this website is this a site that's helps you get back on your feet as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wardjon93 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't help you much with the http://www.freereentry.org/get-help-app-ghapp.html website, as I only found it with a web search just now. If you are looking for help understanding what Wikipedia is about, then you could click this link: About. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

New Barnstar.
Dear John_of_Reading,

I’m sending you this message, as I have noticed that you made a contribution to the article about magnificent Worcester Cathedral, and I decided, that for you it, probably, will be interesting to have a look at a new Worcestershire Barnstar, which I designed just recently for the very good, but not very active at the moment Worcestershire Project (WP:WORCS) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Worcestershire I think, that the Project of beautiful Worcestershire deserves to have its own symbol, what will also work as momentum of positive energy, helping to make it more lively; so, as a participant of the Wikipedia Awards Project, I decided to create WORCS Barnstar, using as the central motive emblem, used even in ancient times — by Worcestershire units at the Battle of Agincour; now this symbol - county's famed black pear - also decorates the Flag of Worcestershire. So, it will be very kind of you, if you will have a look at the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards and give your support to the Worcestershire Barnstar, if you will like it. Your participation will be highly appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Chris Oxford.Chris Oxford (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Fixed -- John of Reading (talk) 10:45, 10 March 2017 (UTC)