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Venue Management Association
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Speedy deletion of Venue Management Association
A tag has been placed on Venue Management Association requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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Copyright problem: Venue Management Association
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Venue Management Association, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://www.vma.org.au/default.asp?PageID=7&n=History+26+background, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:


 * If you have permission from the author leave a message explaining the details at Talk:Venue Management Association and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
 * If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Venue Management Association with a link to where we can find that note.
 * If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:Venue Management Association.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at Talk:Venue Management Association/Temp. Leave a note at Talk:Venue Management Association saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. I wanted to add a personal note in addition to this "form letter" that we need external verification of permission. Since we do not require identify verification at account creation, we are unable to take your word for it here. Please follow one of the methods above to clear our right to use this material. Once it is cleared, you may find it necessary to revise it to otherwise meet our guidelines. Please take note of our conflict of interest guideline, which can give you some pointers on successfully contributing to articles on subjects closely connected to you. Among other things, you will want to verify notability of the organization with reliable sources which are distinct from the organization itself. If you have questions about these policies and guidelines, please feel free to let me know at my talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Verifying permission
Hello. As I explained just above, there are several methods you may follow to verify that you have authority to release this information to Wikipedia. Again, I'm afraid that we can't take your word for your identity here, as we have no means to verify from within Wikipedia that you are John Bennett. Since material placed on Wikipedia may be modified and reused, commercially or otherwise, we must ensure that copyright holders consent to the release. To do this, you have two options. You may
 * Leave a note at the external website indicating that re-use of the material is permitted under the GFDL or that material is released into the public domain and place a comment on the talk page of the article telling us where that note is located, or
 * Send an e-mail from an e-mail address associated with the website verifying that re-use of the material is permitted under the GFDL or that material is released into the public domain. If this is the method you choose, your permission will be received and processed by a member of the Communications Committee at the Wikimedia Foundation and permanently filed in our records. If you choose this method, you should leave a note at the article's talk page indicating that you have done so; that way, we will know that verification is forthcoming, and the article will remain blanked until the letter is processed. There is more information about where to send that e-mail and what information that e-mail needs to include at WP:Permission.

The quickest method of verification, obviously, is the first. If you make a note at the external site releasing the material under GFDL, then the article will be quickly restored.

I'm sorry that you're finding this process difficult, but I hope you will understand that this extra step is necessary, since copyright is a legal concern and there may be substantial financial considerations for some copyright holders in having their material released in this way. The external verification process has been designed to be as easy as possible, and, while it can be inconvenient we have found it to be the best method we've been able to devise to protect both Wikipedia and copyright holders. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Your note
Thank you for your note. I have replied. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Venue Management Association
Hi,

I was advised by another editor who had given me the details required to validate the article I wrote...that you have subsequently removed my article again? I am the WRITER of this article and the entry was in support of the abbreviation VMA which lists Venue Management Association and therefre the "logical" entry I assumed was to explain what the Venue Management Association meant...as its listed in Wikipedia as an accepted abbreviation entry? The removal of my entry seems at odds with the accpetance of the abbreviation?

I have inserted as was requested by the previous editor a note at the foot of the page I wrote on the history of the VMA. "Re-use of the material above is permitted under the GFDL and can be released into the public domain"

The VMA is a non profit organisation and the ONLY reference I have entered is to simply support the abbreviation.

Could you please advise what else i can do to have the entry remain in Wikipedia?

John Benett —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbenett (talk • contribs) 20:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I am in the middle of a move in real life right now, and thus have little time, but I will try to refer you to someone who can help. --Masamage ♫ 05:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no copyright problem with the article, but it appears to have been created solely to promote a product or service. Wikipedia is not a soapbox and as such, advertisement pages are liable to be deleted. Additionally, the article appears to be about an organization but does not explain how the organization is notable or important. See WP:ORG for criteria that could be met to show that it is notable. If you can show that any of these criteria is met, and provide citations from reliable sources to back it up, any administrator will restore the page. Stifle (talk) 11:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi...I see your reply to me on our entry for the VMA as being advertising? The reason we entered the History details of the Venue Management Association was in support of the entry which has been accepted by Wikipedia for the abbreviation VMA.
 * As there is no link to the VMA abbreviation which means Venue Management Association, we naturally placed one in support?
 * I am at a loss to see how an explanation for an abbreviation which is acceptable, is not allowed when you tell readres waht it means? There are no references to the web site, and in any event even it is was the VMA is a not for profit professional assocation with LIMITED membership.  You need to be accepted as aprofessional manager to even gain membership and its services are private not commercial.
 * It would seem to me more logical if someone who has this power of deletion, could address the isuue rather than just delete it and claim its advertising?
 * Let us know how to explain the abbreviation and that's it.
 * Lost for words!!
 * John Benett
 * Johnbenett (talk) 19:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Advertising or not, I already indicated the criteria for inclusion for an organization. Did you read it?
 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px]] If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
 * participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
 * linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam); and,
 * avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.
 * For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for businesses. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines.   Stifle (talk) 09:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)