User talk:Johncrotty11

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Speedy deletion nomination of Michael Canning


A tag has been placed on Michael Canning requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Rangilo Gujarati ( talk ) 21:33, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
Let me explain. We have articles on artists when they are notable. The criteria for this is at WP:CREATIVE. There was no indication in the article that it came anywhere near this. Wikipedia does not exist for promotion of people not already well-known, but to provide information about those the public will want to look up in an encyclopedia--those they already have heard of. Thus the requirement to show notability by  references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. It was another admin who deleted it, but the article was properly deleted. When you have the references, you're welcome to try again.  DGG ( talk ) 18:40, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw your further note. When you have the sources to show it meets WP:CREATIVE, make the article. If your shows were important, there will be reviews of them. Without such references, it may or not be qualify to be deleted speedy, but it will certainly be deleted in our regular way at AfD, so there's no point unless you have good references. (btw, For Coogan, I found a second reference--I consider her notability borderline, but it would probably pass AfD. Feehily is in major museums, & thus notable; Walsh seem clearly notable, tho it needs references. I may take a look for them.) If you try again, let me know, and I'll give you what help I can if there's anything available.   DGG ( talk ) 23:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear David (DGG)User:DGG

Firstly I hope that this note gets back to you as I'm finding the layout of the Talk pages here on Wikipedia very confusing.

Secondly, sincere thanks for taking the time to explain the requirements. I'm still a bit confused but less likely now to just give up.

In terms of the text I'm writing on the Artist Michael Canning: If I include the names of the public collections his work is in and list the journals, magazines, newspaper articles by page, date, etc and the publications produced (there are 5 that I know of for sure) specifically about his work then I'm on the right track? Also where is that text now, so I don't have to write it all up again? Was it deleted?

In terms of Coogan I guess it needs improvement (she showed at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston last week).

Thanks again,

John