User talk:JohnjPerth

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Your suggested definition looks clear and concise to me but I'm no expert. Let's leave it a few days to see who else has a view.

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my change to section on attributes/variables
I pressed the wrong button. I meant to add to the explanation of my changes (1) in normal conversation 'attribute' means 'value of attribute'. eg 2 people with blond hair have the same attribute. we would not say that all people have the same attribute 'color of hair'. So I wanted to avoid the heavy ambiguity. So often, writing assumes that the reader knows what you are saying, and is not having to decode it. Likewise, the variables example tries to emphasise that 'inherited variables' and 'class variables' are different concepts. Also, without thinking about it much, I also wondered whether 'variables' and 'attributes' are synonyms, and should not be interchanged randomly. JohnjPerth (talk) 07:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi John, did you intend to post that to the talk page of the article where you made the error? (btw, I wouldn't normally still have a watch on your page. Normally I set it for month after welcoming a new editor but I must have forgotten to do so in your case. I will do it now, so if you have a reply you want me to see, you will need to preface it with rto (as in  ), as otherwise I won't see it.) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry, I was trying to explain my change to OOP variables, but I ended up putting it here by mistake, in my personal talk page (76yo fuddle-head). I have since had more time to think and have refined the change and its explanation so that the above lengthy discussion is not required. You might confirm my understanding that 'attribute' means 'value of a variable' and should be replaced by the word 'variable' in the OOP article, which I have now done.
 * PS this is about my 10th? contribution over the years - maybe I accidentally changed the letter-case in my username and lost them?
 * PS why do i need to add the 4 tildes, when the signing seems to happen automatically without them?
 * PS You have a very elegant interesting name - you must be an interesting person. JohnjPerth (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you have only done ten edits, you are completely entitled to make trivial errors. I've done thousands of edits and still drop clangers.
 * An attribute (disambiguation) is a variable (disambiguation) or is it one of the characteristics of a variable? Who do you think I am? Wittgenstein?
 * "The system" is getting better at adding the tildes if you forget or don't bother. Feel free to do what comes naturally.
 * For the back story of my user name, see user:JMF. The fancy lettering betrays three of my interests: mathematics, typography and art. It is called Blackboard bold (and I spotted it as a nice identifier long before Elon Musk found 𝕏). As for being interesting, flattery will get you everywhere. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)