User talk:Johnny34

Image tagging for Image:84adnew.png
Thanks for uploading Image:84adnew.png. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:
 * Image use policy
 * Image copyright tags

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. 11:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:85ad.png listed for deletion
Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as Image:85ad.png has been listed for speedy deletion because you selected a copyright license type implying some type of restricted use, such as for non-commercial use only, or for educational use only or for use on Wikipedia by permission.  While it might seem reasonable to assume that such files can be freely used on Wikipedia, a non-profit website, this is in fact not the case. Please do not upload any more files with these restrictions on them, because content on Wikipedia needs to be compatible with the GNU Free Documentation License, which allows anyone to use it for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial.

If you created this media file and want to use it on Wikipedia, you may re-upload it, but use the license to license it under the GFDL, or  to license it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or use  to release it into the public domain.

If you did not create this media file but want to use it on Wikipedia, there are two ways to proceed. First, you may choose one of the fair use tags from this list if you believe one of those fair use rationales applies to this file. Second, you may want to contact the copyright holder and request that they make the media available under a free license.

If you have any questions please ask at Media copyright questions. Thank you.

Some image copyright help
Hello, I'll try to clarify the image copyright issues a little bit.

Basically, there's two ways to include the image to Wikipedia: The easy way and the hard way.


 * The easy way: Get the copyright holder to agree to licence the image under a "free" licence. No hassle on Wikipedia end; regrettably, often a lot of hassle with the copyright holder.
 * The hard way: Use Fair Use copyright tags, indicate what article the image is used for, and under what specific conditions it can be used on the page in question. There's tons of rules regarding how such images can be used; if a free image illustrating the same topic can be found, it should be used instead, for example.

Regrettably, "permission to use in Wikipedia" images cannot be used as is, but luckily, any image that uses a "forbidden" licence can be used with the Fair Use rationale. The easiest way to handle those images is to upload them with the corresponding Fair Use licence chosen, then add a fair use rationale to the image. (Something along the lines of "Free images on the same topic are not available, this is only used in article xxxx, use of a single low-resolution image should not impede with copyright holder's ability to turn profit".) See Help:Image page for instructions on how to deal with the image pages and fix the licences and add image fair use rationale.

The Fair Use image process is really, really, really complex, I'm afraid. Copyright law is so strange at times, and there's little else we can do... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 14:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks wwwwolf. I have complete rights by the owners to use however so they have agreed to licence under the free licence. Do I ned to re-upload the image as a different filename or can i change the permissions here. Sorry I'm asking stupid questions - I'm new to all this.

Okay. This really looks confusing to the newbies and the image page is probably the worst designed part of the MediaWiki software. Nobody seems to care how usable it is, as long as it has the required function.

A short course: Images in MediaWiki sites consist of two things: The actual image file, and the Image page which typicall contains the copyright information. The image page itself also has the tools of modifying the file. To modify the page, you edit it like any other page on the site - hit the Edit link at the top of the page. The confusing bit is that if you upload a new image with the same name, or revert an image file, the file gets replaced but the page remains as it is. Basically, they have separate histories.

So, basically, what you need to do is this: Hope this helps! --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 10:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) If the image was already deleted, simply re-upload the image, and be sure to pick the appropriate free-use licence. Be sure to include source/copyright information and statement from copyright holder (or somesuch) that the image is free to use. If necessary, edit the image page afterward so all information is there.
 * 2) If the image hasn't been deleted (one of them seems to be there), just edit the image page to add the required information.

OK, basically you did a minor change to Image:84adnew.png. Now you know how to edit the image page; however, this edit was not exactly what I had in mind. =) If you want an example of what information the page should have in order not to be deleted, take a look at, say, Image:Barbarian (Commodore 64).png, one of my uploads which I edited some time back. Pay special attention to how the page has description that says where the image came, who did the screenshot and how, and who has the copyrights nowadays, and how the licencing section says how and when the image can be used.

I'm sorry I can't really edit this page for you; If I could, I would have fixed this myself, but adding source and copyright info is uploader's responsibility, and besides, I know absolutely nothing of the source of the image anyway so I can't really help you there. So instead, I hope these examples are helpful. Like I've said often, looking around Wikipedia is often helpful, there's plenty of practical examples on how to do things. Just keep your eyes open =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 13:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. =) You should also consider adding a fair use rationale to the image, as is shown in the example pic. Yeah, there's tons of pictures where the fair use rationale isn't there, but not having one there is kind of a rule violation, and some people insist following this thing to the letter and have the right to demand the file gone if it's not there. (Like I said, Fair Use stuff is the Hard Way.) If someone insists, it's kind of easy to add. Just similar verbiage as is shown in my sample above.

Also, when you leave comments on the talk pages, please sign your comments, it makes following discussions a lot easier. You can do this by adding four tildes ( ~ ) after the comment, or by using the signature button on the edit box tool bar. This places your username and time after the comment. Kind of like this: --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 18:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)