User talk:Johnny Au/Archive3

voice

 * [[File:Qc-caisse populaire.oga]]

This is a male or female voice ? 198.105.116.225 (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It sounds too deep for a female (unless done intentionally), which means that I am quite confident that it is a male voice. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 03:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

forest
You hear [ˈfɔɹɪst] or [ˈfɔɹɛst] in [[Media:En-us-forest.ogg]] ? 198.105.124.114 (talk) 23:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it closer to the former, but I pronounce it as the latter myself. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 03:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

package

 * [[File:En-us-package.ogg]]

You hear [ˈpʰakɪd͡ʒ] or [ˈpʰakɛd͡ʒ] ? 198.105.121.22 (talk) 20:14, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it more so as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

ver

 * [[File:Fr-ver-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

You hear [vɛːʁ], [væːʁ] or [vaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.121.22 (talk) 00:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the one in the middle. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:32, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

living-room

 * [[File:Fr-Paris--living-room.ogg]]

You hear "living room" or "living hoom" ? 198.105.121.22 (talk) 19:11, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

feit

 * [[File:Nl-feit.ogg]]

You have heard "fate" or "fight" ? 198.105.102.18 (talk) 12:56, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 21:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Hồ Chí Minh

 * [[File:Hồ Chí Minh.oga]]

You hear [ho t͡ɕɪj mɪn] or [ho t͡ɕɪj mən] ? 198.105.108.79 (talk) 23:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

pen

 * [[File:En-us-inlandnorth-pen.ogg]]

You hear [pɛn] or [pɪn] ? 198.105.101.45 (talk) 20:30, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 22:41, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013
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 * Thank you for reminding me, BracketBot. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Your accent
You pronounce /ˈmaʊnteɪn/ for the word mountain, because your parents pronounce like this ? 198.105.102.214 (talk) 15:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I do and my parents do as well. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:20, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

This pronunciation doesn't exist, the right pronunciation is /ˈmaʊntən/. 198.105.102.214 (talk) 10:45, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 14:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Your parents have mispronounced some English word. Does your teacher pronounces /ˈmaʊntən/ ? 198.105.102.214 (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You pronounce [fɔɹ] or [fɔ] for the word four ? 198.105.102.214 (talk) 11:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I pronounce it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:42, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Why your parents have mispronounced some words ? 198.105.120.22 (talk) 06:23, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Their first language is not English. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Do you know the word chicken in Cantonese ? 198.105.120.22 (talk) 18:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No, but I believe that it is gai1 (using the Yale transliteration). I had to use Wiktionary. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

hiver

 * France : [[File:Fr-hiver-fr FR-Paris.ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Fr-hiver-fr CA.ogg]]

What is the difference ? 198.105.114.8 (talk) 11:40, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The Quebec one rhymes with shiver. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 14:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

tempête

 * [[File:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg]]

This pronunciation rhymes with wait or right ? 198.105.121.55 (talk) 10:43, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It rhymes with right. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:16, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I think it rhymes with wait, no ? 198.105.120.38 (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The linked sound file rhymes with right. The other sound file (not here) is the one you were looking for.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 1 : [[File:qc-tempête.ogg]]
 * 2 : [[File:fR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg]]

Do you hear the difference ? 198.105.117.189 (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The first is accented on the first syllable, while the second is accented on the second syllable. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The first audio rhymes with right and the second audio rhymes with late, isn't it ? 198.105.117.189 (talk) 01:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, both rhyme with right. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you think the first audio is [tãpaɪ̯t] and the second audio is [tãpɐɪ̯t] ? 198.105.100.72 (talk) 11:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

lézard

 * France : [[File:Fr-Normandie-lézard.ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Fr-lézard-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

What is the difference ? 198.105.127.178 (talk) 12:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The Metropolitan French pronunciation is pronounced lizar, while the Quebec pronunciation is pronounced layzar (closer to the spelling). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

key

 * video 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg
 * video 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

Do you think this two songs have a different key ? 198.105.106.194 (talk) 01:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, they do. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you know the name of the key ? 198.105.106.194 (talk) 12:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Video 1 is in G Major, while Video 2 is in F Major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 13:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you think the video 1 is in G-flat major ? 198.105.106.194 (talk) 13:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I listened to it a few more times and it is rather halfway between G♭ major and G major, which can be hard to tell, given that Linda is a Cantopop song, not a classical composition (or classical-style even). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you think the video 2 is between F major and G-flat major ? 198.105.106.194 (talk) 10:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:16, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Is there a name for this key ? 198.105.106.194 (talk) 06:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, there is no widely accepted name (other than "the key between F major and G♭ major" for example). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 14:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

How to make this key ? 198.105.108.51 (talk) 21:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Take existing music and use Audacity (audio editor). Select all, then go to the Effects menu and select change pitch.  When you change pitch, notice that you can change the key of the music.  To create keys halfway between the "standard" keys, find what is halfway between the current key and one semitone above it.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnTdFyd0l0
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysU1xqCcD0

This two songs have this key too. 198.105.108.51 (talk) 11:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

How do musicians do this key with a keyboard instrument ? 198.105.127.231 (talk) 11:32, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * They tune them through post-processing. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

fight and fête

 * fight : [[File:en-us-fight.ogg]]
 * fête (Quebec accent) : [[File:qc-fête.oga]]

Do you hear a different ? 198.105.110.206 (talk) 10:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The /t/ is different ? 198.105.96.233 (talk) 01:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The /t/ is very much the same. However, the standard English "fight" has a shorter vowel length (timewise) than the Quebec French fête.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

all right

 * [[File:En-us-all right1.ogg]]

You hear [ˈɔɫ ˌɹaɪt] or [ˈɔɫ ˌɹɛːt] ? 198.105.105.154 (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

This pronunciation is strange, isn't it ? 198.105.106.239 (talk) 11:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No doubt about it. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:02, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

頭髮亂了

 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VShAURv74

This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.112.191 (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It is closer to G♭ major than it is to F major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

tight and tête

 * tight : [[File:en-us-tight.ogg]]
 * tête : [[File:FR-CA-tête.oga]]

Do you hear a difference ? 198.105.126.179 (talk) 01:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Same with my response to the "fight" and "fête" one. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The first t is different ? 198.105.126.179 (talk) 10:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. The first "t" in English is spoken with more force than in French.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

caisse
The word is pronounced [kɛːs] or [kaɪ̯s] in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN2XEbsKJME ? 198.105.113.227 (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It is pronounced as the former, sounding like the English word "case." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:26, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Washington

 * [[File:Fr-Paris--Washington-2.ogg]]

You hear /waʃiŋtɔn/ or /waʃiŋtən/ ? 198.105.123.19 (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Neither. I hear it as /waʃiŋtənə/ (with an extra schwa at the end). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

brun

 * France : [[File:Fr-brun.ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Qc-brun.oga]]

Do you hear the difference ? 198.105.96.53 (talk) 23:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I do. The Quebec one has a trilled "r".  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Is the /œ̃/ different ? 198.105.96.53 (talk) 11:13, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * They are both similar. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:20, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

The French pronunciation is [bʁæ̃] and the Quebec pronunciation is [bʀɚ̃], isn't it ? 198.105.118.205 (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Big signature
Hallo. I was wondering if you would consider removing the ... from your custom signature? It makes your name gigantic compared to everyone else's. Much thanks! –Quiddity (talk) 04:23, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:42, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Much thanks :) –Quiddity (talk) 17:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

quand

 * France : [[File:Fr-Quand.oga]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Qc-quand.oga]]

What is the difference ? 198.105.118.222 (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The former is pronounced /kã/, while the latter is pronounced /kɛ̃/. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The former is /kɔ̃/, isn't it ? 198.105.113.19 (talk) 21:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You are right. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Jacky Cheung's voice

 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gokbG9T6PCs
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk5xk_Vuobc

Do you think Jacky Cheung's voice is difference in this two videos ? 198.105.118.222 (talk) 11:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are different. The latter has a much stronger reverberation than in the former video.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The former is a clear voice and the latter is a hoarse voice ? 198.105.102.93 (talk) 10:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Not true. Both are clear, although he sings at a slightly deeper tone in the latter.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 18:31, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Why his voice is different ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 01:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe that the former is recorded in a sound recording booth, while the latter is recorded live in front of a stage with audience. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 13:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

The former is in 1986 and the latter is in 2007. 198.105.116.142 (talk) 15:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

boîte

 * [[File:FR-boîte (Gaspésie).ogg]]

This pronunciation rhymes with the word "wait" or "white" ? 198.105.106.186 (talk) 21:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It rhymes with "white." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:17, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

une fête

 * [[File:FR QC une fête.ogg]]

You heard [ʏn fɛːt] or [ʏn fəːt] ? 198.105.116.3 (talk) 01:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:04, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Apology
Hi, I am Benisonpanthaplackal. I was sorry that by mistake and due to misunderstanding, I edited a wrong information about CN Tower. I misunderstood tallest buildings for tallest structures. I am not causing Vandalism. I AM A TRUE WIKIPEDIAN. BenisonPBaby 10:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benisonpanthaplackal (talk • contribs) 15:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

tard

 * [[File:Fr-tard.ogg]]
 * [[File:FR-Tard (Gaspésie).ogg]]

What is the difference ? 198.105.114.166 (talk) 13:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The former is pronounced "tar", while the latter is pronounced "tor." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 14:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

double
You pronounce [ˈdɐbl̩] or [ˈdɐboʊ] ? 198.105.100.87 (talk) 20:55, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I pronounce it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

service

 * [[File:En-us-service.ogg]]

You hear [ˈsɝvɪs] or [ˈsɝvəs] ? 198.105.123.125 (talk) 13:04, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

cinq

 * France : [[File:Fr-cinq-fr.ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Qc-cinq-2.ogg]]

Is there a difference ? 198.105.123.125 (talk) 00:54, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The latter has the "aye" sound. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

taupe

 * [[File:Fr-taupe-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

You hear [toːp] or [tou̯p] ? 198.105.110.219 (talk) 11:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:07, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

kilomètre

 * [[File:Fr-Paris--kilomètre.ogg]]

You hear [kilomɛtʁ], [kidomɛtʁ] or [kiɾomɛtʁ] ? 198.105.127.230 (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the middle one. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:37, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

tête
You hear [tɛːt] or [taɛ̯t] in http://www.forvo.com/word/tête/#fr ? 198.105.127.230 (talk) 18:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There are two audio files in that website. Do you mean the first or the second audio file?  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 23:25, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I mean the second. 198.105.127.230 (talk) 23:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. It is the latter pronunciation then.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

sayonara

 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErGjJ-SjBQ4

You hear [sa.jɔ.na.ra] or [sa.jɔ.na.la] in 2:33 ? 198.105.97.117 (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It sounds rather halfway between an "r" sound and an "l" sound. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 03:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter
Hey Johnny Au. We've just rolled out a new version of the VisualEditor :). Changes and patches include:


 * Newly added templates now list their available parameters if TemplateData is available;
 * The load for the VisualEditor on apages is now 4 KiB, down from 119 KiB;
 * Feedback dialog is no longer chased off the screen by typing (bug 50538)
 * Fixed the Monobook issues around z-indexes (bug 50241)
 * Undoing an image resize doesn't make everything look bad
 * In the image dialog, "Caption content" is now just "Caption"
 * Tweaked tooltip references to VisualEditor to instead talk about "source mode"

Those are the big ones; more coming at the end of this week or early next week :). It's a short list, but the load issue took up a lot of time, as did TemplateData, and are both pretty big changes. If you've got any questions, drop them on my talkpage. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 01:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Je ne comprends pas

 * [[File:Qc-je ne comprends pas.oga]]

You hear [ʒœ nœ kõpʁã pɑ] or [ʒœ nœ kõpʁã pɔ] ? 198.105.121.124 (talk) 15:35, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Wilson

 * [[File:Fr-Normandie-Wilson.ogg]]
 * [[File:Fr-Wilson (Avignon).ogg]]

Do you hear the difference ? 198.105.117.248 (talk) 00:13, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The former sounds like the standard English pronunciation of "Wilson," while the latter has the second syllable sound exactly like the English word "son." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:56, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

key

 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL3wA__qBig

The key of this song is F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.118.222 (talk) 21:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in G♭ Major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

lézard

 * [[File:Fr-lézard-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

You hear [lezɑːʁ] or [lezɔːʁ] ? 198.105.116.3 (talk) 20:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

tempête 2
You hear [tãpɛːt] or [tãpaɛ̯t] in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7B4LdOONUQ ? 198.105.116.3 (talk) 18:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:18, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

ver

 * France : [[File:Fr-ver-France-Aquitaine.ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Fr-ver-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

What is the difference ? 198.105.127.230 (talk) 00:45, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The latter rhymes with "there." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

fortune
You pronounce [ˈfɔɹtʃuːn] or [ˈfɔɹtʃən] ? 198.105.98.28 (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I pronounce it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:56, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Johnny Au

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
 * Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links ./that look like this (50720)
 * Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (50423)
 * Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (50415)
 * The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
 * Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
 * Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
 * The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
 * Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
 * Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
 * The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
 * Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Johnny Au! Another set of patches :). Today we have:


 * Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
 * Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
 * If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
 * You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter
Hey Johnny Au; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:


 * If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
 * If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
 * If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
 * sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
 * If you type at the end of links, they now extend
 * Templates now only take a single click to insert
 * Clear annotations clears links (50461)
 * The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
 * Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
 * Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
 * References made by tag:ref now display properly (50978)
 * The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
 * Feedbacl link goes to the right language (47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

baleine

 * [[File:Qc-baleine.ogg]]

This pronunciation rhymes with "wine" or "rain" ? 198.105.103.93 (talk) 01:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It rhymes with "rain." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter
Hey Johnny Au! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
 * VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
 * Foo and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 07:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

un kilomètre

 * [[File:Fr-kilomètre.ogg]]
 * [[File:FRQC-kilomètre.oga]]

What's the difference ? 198.105.113.97 (talk) 20:59, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The latter sounds like "un kilométre." Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:54, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

The second is "un kilomight", isn't it ? 198.105.113.97 (talk) 10:58, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 13:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

You think it's [ɚ̃ kilɔmɛːtʁ] or [ɚ̃ kilɔmaɛ̯tʁ] ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 23:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Which one? Do you mean for the former or the latter? Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you think the second is [ɚ̃ kilɔmaɛ̯tʁ] ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 01:24, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No. The second sounds like "kilomaytr" with "may" sounding like the month of May.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

caisse

 * [[File:FR-Caisse (Gaspésie).ogg]]
 * [[File:FQ-caisse.ogg]]

Is there a difference ? 198.105.113.97 (talk) 18:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Very slight. The latter has a very slight syllable break between the "a" and the "i."  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

diet

 * [[File:En-us-diet.ogg]]

You hear [ˈdaɪɪt] or [ˈdaɪɛt] ? 198.105.103.93 (talk) 21:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Bà Vì

 * [[File:Ba Vi.ogg]]

You hear [ba vɪi̯] or [ba vei̯] ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 01:42, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

peut-être

 * Paris : [[File:Fr-peut-être.ogg]]
 * South of France : [[File:Fr-peut-être (Avignon).ogg]]
 * Quebec : [[File:Qc-peut-être.ogg]]

What's the difference ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 15:33, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * South of France has the final syllable of être emphasized, unlike the Parisian accent, while Quebec has the first syllable of être pronounced as "eye," unlike the Parisian accent. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

G♭ Major
Do you think the G♭ Major is sad ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 01:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Major keys are supposed to be bright and uplifting.  Minor keys are supposed to be sad and gloomy.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUMr4iEx-M

Do you think this song makes someone feel sad ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 11:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the minor key, but the intro can be deceptive. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * This song is in G♭ Major, isn't it ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 18:00, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is in G♭ Minor, better known as F♯ Minor. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

What is the difference between G♭ Major and F♯ Minor ? 198.105.114.217 (talk) 00:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * G♭ Major sounds uplifting, while F♯ Minor sounds gloomy. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_FVHXaito

This song is in G♭ Major or F♯ Minor ? 198.105.107.76 (talk) 11:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_HPgKQqjEk

This song is in G♭ Major or E minor ? 198.105.126.12 (talk) 23:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)


 * But in 0:45, I think it's in G♭ Major, right ? 198.105.126.12 (talk) 11:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That is just a modulation. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:46, 28 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It's in the same key, but major and minor, right ? 198.105.126.12 (talk) 00:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No. E Minor is enharmonic to G Major, not G♭ Major.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It's in E♭ Minor. 198.105.124.127 (talk) 12:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:39, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x53jLv-RgaU

This song is in which key ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 17:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in A♭ Minor, I believe. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * D major and G♭ Major, right ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 12:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Does this song have a modulation ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It does. It modulates enharmonically between major and minor.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:05, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

G♭ Major and F♯ major
What is the difference between G♭ Major and F♯ major ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 22:57, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Only the name and key signature are different. Otherwise, they are exactly the same.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:10, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

tête

 * [[File:FR-CA-tête.oga]]

It rhymes with late or tight ? 198.105.124.127 (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It rhymes with the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

hiver

 * [[File:FR-Hiver (Gaspésie).ogg]]

You hear [ivɛːʁ] or [iveɪ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.116.61 (talk) 22:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as rhyming with "there," but with an "r". Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Listen to the night

 * http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Bet.e

The song "Listen to the night" is in which key ? 198.105.102.230 (talk) 14:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in D♭ Major I believe. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The G♭ Major is also present in this song ? 198.105.102.230 (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:15, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013
It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages, scrolling and deleting  on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are s defined inside a ) (bug 53345).  Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text.  This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

key
Do you think the F major is the best key ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * When it comes to Cantopop, which is the majority of the videos you showed me, perhaps so. When it comes to classical music, I have no preference for any key.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The F major reminds the color blue, right ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * According to some theories, it does. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The G-flat major reminds the color orange ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That is arguable. G-flat major (also known as F# Major) is also associated with the colour green: List of Green Lanterns.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

This song is associated in with color ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * One has blue text and the other has pink text. Otherwise, the song is not associated with any particular colour. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

key

 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg

This key makes someone think the colour orange, yellow or purple ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The piece is in F-sharp major, therefore it is green or cyan. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


 * But the F-sharp major makes me think the colour orange. 198.105.121.97 (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

The E-flat minor makes someone think the colour brown ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That is debatable, but minor keys sound dark, while major keys sound bright. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFGuOBe7Xk

This song is in D-flat minor, but it's in F-sharp minor in 1:54, right ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hard to tell. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 23:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzMu3FmCBQI

This song is exactly in G-flat major or between F major and G-flat major ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 11:55, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It is closer to G-flat major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

G-flat major and G major is similar ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but they differ by one semitone. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 19:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you think the E-flat minor is sadder than the E minor ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 21:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * They are the same to me. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

The F major and G-flat major are very different ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 21:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not that different but different nonetheless. They only differ by a semitone.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The G-flat major is stronger than the F major ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 11:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * They are the same. Any key is stronger with forte dynamics.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 13:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXTF6pQQR0
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysU1xqCcD0
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnTdFyd0l0

These four songs are in the same key ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * First: G-flat major
 * Second: F major
 * Third: G-flat major
 * Fourth: G-flat major
 * Therefore, no. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The second is between F major and G-flat major, isn't it ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It might be so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

These two songs' tempo are different ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 01:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. The latter is slightly faster than the former and believe it or not, the increased speed of the latter caused its key to shift almost one semitone higher (common with pop music).  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * No, the latter is slower than the former. 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for correcting me. I was tired. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

key

 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDKo8RYh0sY

This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 11:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in F major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The key between F major and G-flat major is not in Wikipedia ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 01:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not in Wikipedia, as it is absent in Western music (and is otherwise too obscure aside from East and Southeast Asian pop music). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXIqx6ogiA

Does this is a Western music ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 11:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it is Western. It is in F major.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * No, this song is between F major and G-flat major. Why you told me this key is absent in Western music ? Because this song hasn't a high quality ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I get it. It was from a vinyl record recording, which over time has led to the key being distorted.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * official: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmIooB1yOXE
 * concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jAKMAruDUA

This song's original key is between F major and G-flat major, but in the second video, it's in F major. It's possible to make the key between F major and G-flat major with instruments ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. One can tune multiple sets of instruments (depending on the instrument) to play in keys not on the Western scale.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Why it's in F major in the second video ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 12:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not effective to tune every single instrument there. Often, it is just easier to play on a recognized key.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 17:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

tempête 3

 * [[File:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg]]

Do you believe this pronunciation is between [tãpeɪt] and [tãpaɪt] ? 198.105.117.46 (talk) 01:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It sounds like the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much. I have added it to my barnstar collection.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

key

 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72dsXD2GdM

This song is in F-flat major ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 01:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It is in F major (though off-key).  Remember that F-flat is exactly the same as E.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Off-key means between F-flat major and F major ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * In this case, yes, though it is closer to F major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 12:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNCRzT_9vE

This is a F major with a comma ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 12:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 13:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * This song's key is closer to F major or closer to G-flat major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is very much in the middle. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRJJ8HiC1ks

This key is strange. You think it's in E-flat minor or D major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is halfway between the two keys. It is quite hard to tell though, as the vocals overpower the instrumentals and the instrumentals are very low. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuEn_HfgHw

This song is in A major or B-flat major ? Be careful ! The intro is difficult to guess. 198.105.110.248 (talk) 00:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVPPw-c7IYI

This song is in G major or A-flat major ? 198.105.120.197 (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is the former. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:58, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7msA72TSU

This song is in E major ? 198.105.117.194 (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

chè

 * [[File:Vi-hanoi-nam-chè.ogg]]

You hear [tʃɛ] or [tʃæ] ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I hear it as neither. I hear it as [tʃe].  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

ver

 * [[File:Fr-ver-ca-Montréal.ogg]]

Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [vᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * [[File:Fr-hiver-fr CA.ogg]]

And this one. Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [ivᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Extremely slight. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at MediaWiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add  (underline),   (subscript), and   (superscript),   (strikethrough) and   (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl up to Ctrl sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

key

 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysU1xqCcD0

Does the key start to up in 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The key becomes G-flat major at 3:32. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:49, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It becomes G-flat major or G major at 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It becomes the former at that point. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * So, the intro is in F major ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 17:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is halfway between F major and G-flat major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 20:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * In 3:32, it becomes between G-flat major and G major, right ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It may be so. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I think it's impossible to set the key between F major and G-flat major. This key is modified with a machine. 198.105.107.122 (talk) 10:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not impossible, but it is very impractical to do so without a machine. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Does this key is written in the page F♯ (musical note) ? 198.105.105.98 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * F♯4 is not this key ? 198.105.101.130 (talk) 06:11, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * F♯4 is in that key, just not in that particular song. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_HPgKQqjEk

This song is in G-flat major ? 198.105.101.130 (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It sounds more like F♯ minor to me. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:29, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * F♯ minor or E-flat minor ? 198.105.123.58 (talk) 11:13, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is actually E♭ minor. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3NOmlI660

This song is in E minor or F minor ? 198.105.123.58 (talk) 17:30, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is halfway in between, though closer to F minor. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec3tb_7rnH4
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg

This two keys are identic or different ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 06:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The two are identical, both G-flat major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlu98yss8-Q

This song, the intro is in D minor, but the singing part is in F major ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 18:46, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes for parts of it (some of the singing part, especially later on is in D minor). Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0OhPGs73k
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N18HZJLG9jg
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnTdFyd0l0

These three songs are in the same key or not ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 11:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:46, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Which song is exactly in F major ? 198.105.98.86 (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The first one. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The second and the third are in the same key ? 198.105.97.31 (talk) 00:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 03:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The first video is in F major, the third video is in F♯4 and the second video is in which key ? 198.105.125.27 (talk) 05:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is more like G-flat major. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The second video's key is lower than the third video ? 198.105.111.160 (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_HPgKQqjEk

Do you think the third sentence of this song is in G-flat major ? 198.105.111.160 (talk) 02:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is more like E-flat minor. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH6I3m5_bDg
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-_BSxNeEA

Do you hear a different key in this two videos ? 198.105.104.5 (talk) 17:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:23, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7ZmzcXARc

If you don't listen this key carefully, you will guess this key is F major ? 198.105.119.21 (talk) 21:39, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. It is actually in G-flat major after listening to it millions of times.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Does the A major makes someone to think the sunshine ? For me, yes. 198.105.119.21 (talk) 01:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I must concur. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8M86Fw8BE

This song is in G-flat major or G major ? 198.105.103.141 (talk) 11:15, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the former. It would have been great if I get my hands on Logic Pro, so that I can determine what key any piece of music it is in quickly and accurately.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 15:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTXGay1KZdI

Some parts of this song is in E-flat minor ans some parts is in G-flat major. Which is the home key ? 198.105.113.105 (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It is the former. Generally, the home key is the one that is the very first chord and/or the very last chord.  Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklccWgI19k

This song is in D minor ? 198.105.102.175 (talk) 18:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXTF6pQQR0
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2WjLqs7i4E

The second octave is different ? 198.105.124.164 (talk) 23:41, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hard to tell. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The second voice is lower ? 198.105.103.203 (talk) 09:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. The second is so heavily post-processed that the female voice becomes a male voice. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:15, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The second video, it's a cover. When men sing a women's song, their voice is often lower ? 198.105.122.63 (talk) 18:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, for obvious reasons. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNSvTIInrZE

This song is in C major or A minor ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It is in the latter. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Some parts of this song is in C major ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 20:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * True, but the song is in A minor. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 02:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuURGOr2trA

The intro of this song is in E-flat minor, but the singing part is in G-flat major, right ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 07:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * True. Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)