User talk:Johnpacklambert/Archive 11

Here is my most recent archive.

Bob Lido
The article Bob Lido has been tagged for over 12 years as having no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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Viola Pitts
Viola Pitts is based on a primary source, I cannot see how a resolution before a legislature could be anything else, and we do not even have a working link. I am really struggling to see any way in which she meets inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

1913 births
I have just started reviewing the category category:1913 births. It currently has 7,158 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1790 establishments in Norway


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Harold Lawrence Katcher
Harold Lawrence Katcher is an example of the whole system gone wrong. Maybe not horribly. Still the article was created today, but the fact that it has both an impossible date of birth and a year of birth 12 years in the future is very bizarre. The birth year given might possibly have meant to be 1934, but that does not explain the off date of birth.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:47, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Henry C. Cooper
Henry C. Cooper seems to be an example of someone who never made much impact at the olympics who it does not make sense for us to have an article on.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Mays Copeland
I think it is high time we made the major league notability guidline multiple games, like how actor notability is multiple significant roles in notable productions. The current system gives us articles that are essnetially about play in 1 game by 1 person like Mays Copeland.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Expanded and sourced. Clearly passes WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 20:19, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Mary Ann DeWeese
Mary Ann DeWeese is an article based only on one source. We normally need multiple sources to pass GNG and fully show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There is quite a lot about her on Newspapers.com. I added a few articles, but there are even more on there. She certainly passes GNG. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

University president tenure
I strongly suspect we could have a much better section on Gordon's time as university president that gives a fuller assessment of his actions and leadership as president. The current section focuses too much on a few issues and not enough on the full span of what occured under his leadership.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This was about Lincoln Gordon and I meant to put it on the talk page on his biography.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:13, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Marie Hammontree
Marie Hammontree is an article sourced only to the biography of her published by her publisher. We would need more sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

We need more birth years
We seem to have an over abundance of articles on people that do not give the person's birth year.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Florence Ilott
I am really trying tofigure out how the article on Florence Ilott passes not news guidleines. The initial coverage is all news coverage of her outrunning Big Ben on a birdge. Then we have 3 articles that are really about her grandson recreating the event and newsy coverage of that. There is nothing of substance and no clear claim to notability here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Colette de Jouvenel
The article on Colette de Jouvenel seems to heavily suggest that she is notable for who her mother is, which is not a sign of notability. She did apparently make one film, but the evidence is not there to show the film was actually notable nor that making that film is enough to show that she is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:51, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

George Kenning
Clearly the one source we have on George Kenning is not enough to show notability. His actually record of appointments, being in management of 1 GM factory, being involved in rebuilding another GM factory, and being a consultant, is not the stuff on the surface of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I added SIGCOV to the article. Cbl62 (talk) 16:18, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

John McCaffery
John McCaffery is sourced only to IMDb, which is not a reliable source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is his AP obit which could be used to bolster the sourcing. Also this, this, and this. Cbl62 (talk) 15:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting, the AP obituary focuses on a posiiton that was not even in the article. IMDb is a really bad source for anyone who was involved as a television reporter, because as far as I can tell it does not try to capture that aspect of television.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:39, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I am copying the above to McCaffery's talk page, so people can follow up on adding the sourcing. I did at the obit, but not the other sources yet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Unencyclopedic use of first names
We have far too many articles that use the first name of the subject in references throughout which is clearly against MOS. We also have far too many articles that use the title of the subject in references throughout, such as Dr., which is also clearly a violation of MOS.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Francis G. Meyer
Francis G. Meyer may have held a notable position. However the sources listed are a reference to a volume of congressional hearings, which is a primary source, and the state departments own list of the holders of his position. Even if we grant a government related exception to the independent prong of GNG, this is a bare list that says nothing of substance about the person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:53, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have my doubts, too, as to whether Asst. Sec of Stat for Administration is a position that warrants any presumption of notability. I did find this and this in the way of "local boy makes good" but I'm not sure if he passes GNG either. Cbl62 (talk) 15:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I am copying the above to his talk page.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:43, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Robert Mitchell (water polo)
So Robert Mitchell (water polo) was on a team that came in 8th in 1936. He was also evidently on a water polo team in 1948, but did not actually participate in the tournament.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The number of articles that seem to no longer meet inclusion criteria after we changed the rules for Olympic inclusion is quite large. With the limit of 1 nomination for AfD a day this is quite staggering. Searches in general seem to not be turning up much on these. I have wondered if some might qualify for Proposed deletion, but since the ones that have been nominated at least last month and early this month seem to have gone through some discussion of if they should be redirects or straight deletions, this is probably not at the level of being clear and uncontroversial enough yet for Proposed Deletion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Monica Nolan
Our only current sourcing on Monica Nolan is a link from the university she was a student-athlete at. This is not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is here obituary from The Cincinnati Enquirer. See also this, this, this,this, and this. Cbl62 (talk) 00:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Esther Olukoya and Emily Ogunde
I find it hard to understand how Esther Olukoya and Emily Ogunde actually meet any inclusion criteria. They have human insterest coverage as a set of twins who both lived to be 100 and that is about it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Vittorio Piscopo
The article on Vittorio Piscopo clearly does not show notability. Being in the art competition at the Olympics is not even close to default notability granting. I found references to works on artnet and some other sites, so he may be notable. I do not understand art notability enough to even know what would and what would not add towards notability, but clearly we need better sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Dmitri Pozhidaev
Ambassadors are not default notable. The article on Dmitri Pozhidaev has very weak sourcing, and mainly assets that whatever major roles Pozhiadaev may have played are unknown to the public. So this seems like an article built on ignorance, and not a needed article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting one. I agree with your general point that the assertion that "he had a role in a major event but that the scope of his role is unknown due to Soviet archives being closed" is not a great assertion of notability. Moreover, a search of Newspapers.com comes up with zero (possibly due to spelling variations?). On the other hand, there are brief references in a couple books about his role in the Six Day War. E.g., here and here. This one notes: "It was widely believed in official circles in Washington that Soviet ambassador Dmitry Pozhidaev had contributed to rising tension, and a senior U.S. official was to comment later that Pozhidaev was one big trouble-maker. He was replaced later in 1967."  On balance, and given his apparent role as a "big trouble-maker" in a major historic event, I'd probably not be inclined to AfD it. This would be a good one for someone to adopt and improve. Cbl62 (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I posted the part through the links to sources to his talk page. This may increase the likelyhood someone will take this issue up.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Klavs Randsborg
When I came across the article on John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:15, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Charlie Rose (mayor)
This article Charlie Rose (mayor) has very promotional under tones. I am clearly not seeing evidence he is passing the notability guidelines for politicians, and his business and sports connections also do not seem to add up to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Campbell, California probably had about 15,000 residents during the 2 years he was mayor. It was then as always a not really that major suburb of San Fransico.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Mina Rosner
The only source we have on Mina Rosner is the forward to a book by her. Although the forward is probably written by someone else, it is basically commissioner by someone hoping to profit by publishing her work. This is not by most measures a source that meets the independent prong we ask of in GNG, so if we cannot find something better we should probably not have the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Additional SIGCOV includes (1) her survival story has been covered in several books, including this and this; (2) the Manitoba Historical Society has a biographical profile and photo of her [here, (3) "Holocaust Life Stories" maintains a page on her here, (4) she wrote a book on her experience under the Nazis (see here), which was reviewed at length here, (5) there is a 40-minute CBC documentary on her life that can be viewed here, and (6) there is a human rights award named after her that is referenced here and here. [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] (talk) 20:09, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2014 establishments in San Marino


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John J. Turin
Our article on John J. Turin appears to have a source. This is misleading, it goes to the website of his one time employer, but the link does not appear to actually say anything about him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:09, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A Wayne State alum. Obit added. Cbl62 (talk) 17:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

1912 births
I have started reviewing the category Category:1912 births. It currently has 7,259 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:18, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Over emphasis on sports
There are colleges in Division 3 of the NCAA that we have articles on virtually all of their past football coaches, yet no articles on any president they ever had. This seems a very wrong sided situation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Robert Anderson (Hollywood, Florida community leader)
I am really struggling to see how Robert Anderson (Hollywood, Florida community leader) meets any inclusion criteria. Founding a bank is not a default sign of notability, and being on the city comission of a community the size and importance of Hollywood, Florida at the time he was on the city comission is also not a sign. A city comission is basically a multi-person body that is both the executive and the legislature for a city.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:52, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Nathan Aleskovsky
The article on Nathan Aleskovsky is one of the most egregious violations of no original research I have seen. Of the 4 sources, 3 are public primary records of the type that say comprehensive things about people. Marriage, census, naturalization. This is orgianal research in primary records which Wikipedia is not supposed to be built on. The remaining record is a new story of a congressional hearing. I see no evidence from the sources that Aleskovshy is notable. The one non-primary source is not covering him in a way that demonstrates he is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Gheorghe Alexandrescu
The article on Gheorghe Alexandrescu does not really show he is notable. It has a link to his publication, but no secondary sourcing that shows he is notable. The Romanian Wikipedia article on him seems to mention more sources, but neither seem to show that he is notable. Merely being a member of a political party is not a sign of notability. He may have been a key leader, but we would need to explain that better, and source that. His publications may have been impactful, but we would need secondary sources showing that to be the case.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Bill Bailey (dancer)
The article on Bill Bailey (dancer) has 2 sources, one is a youtube clip of him performing, which at best is a primary source, and the other is IMDb, which is neither reliable nor limited enough to show notability. Unless someone can find better sourcing it would seem we should delete the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Added obit. Cbl62 (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Tamar Bair
I find it hard to see how the sourcing or anything else connected with the article Tamar Bair actually shows that she meets the level of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Ejner Bech
Ejner Bech was a non-medaling competitor in 1 Olympic event. Actually he did not even finish the race he was in. I strongly suspect the article should be deleted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:20, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The article we have on him is so basic it does not even tell us that. Our article on the competition gives more useful information on him in some ways than our direct article on him does.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree with you on this one. We actually have sub-stubs on seven people whose sole claim to "notability" is that they entered but did not finish the same 50 kilometres walk: Jānis Dāliņš (Latvia - DNF), Joe Hopkins (Great Britain - DNF), Ejner Bech (Denmark - DNF), Arnolds Krūkliņš (Latvia - DSQ), Dick Löf (Sweden - DSQ), Friedrich Prehn (Germany - DSQ) and Gösta Grandin (Sweden - DSQ). Is this a situation where a group AfD would make sense? Cbl62 (talk) 17:39, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Three of them have better arguments. I went ahead and redirected the other four to the event. Cbl62 (talk) 18:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Two of the redirects were reversed. I nominated them for deletion at Articles for deletion/Arnolds Krūkliņš and Articles for deletion/Gösta Grandin. Cbl62 (talk) 12:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Gerry Chiniquy
Our sourcing on Gerry Chiniquy is no where close to being at a level to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of A. C. Nelson for deletion
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Nomination of Ramdasa for deletion
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Nomination of New London High School (Pennsylvania) for deletion
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F. J. Christopher
F. J. Christopher lacks any secondary source coverage. The article is only sourced to a work by Christopher himself.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Marion Bromley
The article on Marion Bromley is only sourced to her papers (well the joint papers of her and her husband) held in a college collection. There are no independent secondary sources cited.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:39, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Carl Concelman
The article on Carl Concelman is sourced only to the US Scoail Security death index. This is a primary source for his death, and a low quality secondary source for birth, but the source itself would only tell you that it was about the person in question if you already knew more about them. Whatever the sources for the claims to notability in the article, they were not included in listed sources. Concelman may be notable, but we lack the sourcing at present to come even close to showing that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Elizabeth Cowell
Elizabeth Cowell is an article that lacks any working source connections. Unless we are prepared to state that everyone who has ever been a broadcasting voice for the BBC is notable, I am really struggling to see the justification for having an article on her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:05, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, there's the image of her on the cover of a publication. There's a clue that she might be notable... I checked newspapers.com and there are so many hits 'Elizabeth Cowell BBC' and I'm not even in a UK-centric database. Then I Google her and see "Elizabeth Cowell first female TV announcer - BBC 100." So her presence here seems justified, doesn't it? The article would certainly make it thorough AfD. But she does deserve a better one, doesn't she? --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:22, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Joan Cowick
I am really struggling to see how Joan Cowick is notable. Not even one source on the article comes close to passing GNG. She had one role, which it is less than clear meets the rubric of "substantial", but the guideline clearly ask for multiple such roles, and we have no evidence she had multiple roles at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Nominated at AfD: Articles for deletion/Joan Cowick. Natg 19 (talk) 23:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Eleanor Lausch Dietrich
I am finding it hard to see how Eleanor Lausch Dietrich is notable. The one source we have is an obituary published in an industry specific news publication. This does not look to on its own be enough coverage to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:16, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:ANI notice
See WP:ANI. Fram (talk) 14:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Joe Gray (actor)
I am looking through the article on Joe Gray (actor). It is A-only based on IMDb. B-he seems to have never had a credited role.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Charley Hamrick
Charley Hamrick is said to have been drafted by the Detroit Lions. However I see no evidence that he ever played for the Lions, so at least as it stands the article does not seem to make any actual claims to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * He was drafted in the second round (17th overall pick in the 1937 NFL Draft) but was injured and never appeared in a game for the Lions, so he does not pass NGRIDIRON. He's an edge case under GNG. Here are his AP and UPI obituaries. See also here, here, here, here (first-team All Middle West), and a photo here. Cbl62 (talk) 16:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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John
Hello John,

I know you've had some difficulty adjusting to the topic ban but I have to say I am impressed by the system you use on your talk page to catalogue your thoughts on the articles you run across within the categories you have chosen. You seem to have taken to heart all the comments and even the criticisms and turned it into something constructive towards accomplishing your goals here and you should be commended for that. Keep on task and don't get discouraged. Is everything else going okay? -- A Rose Wolf  17:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Things are good for the most part.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Seán Jennett
The only link we have on Seán Jennett is the worldcat entry on him. This does not seem to be the type of source we would want to build an article on.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

John Kiley
The article on John Kiley only has one maybe reference. Except at best it is to the Social security death index entry for him, which is a comprehensive database of almost everyone who died in the US from 1970 on. It is not a source that even tells us anything besides the person died.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Even more surprising, there's a template on "Stadium organists" and a category too. Yet, some of those articles (not Kiley) do seem to be well sourced. Cbl62 (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * JPL - Let me know if my comments on your musings are unwelcome. I find your comments interesting and enjoy following them. Cbl62 (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Further note: The unsourced assertion that Kiley was "a veteran movie theater organist from the silent film era" is somewhat suspect given that he was only 17 years old when the silent movie era ended. Cbl62 (talk) 23:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Nagao Kita
Nagao Kita was the Japanese consul in Hawai'i just before World War I. The article tells us nothing more about him, except about some messages sent to him. I see no way that the information and sourcing can be added up to show that Nagao Kita was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:44, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * His intelligence gathering before the attack on Pearl Harbor is a significant piece in a major historical event (and an embarrassing episode in US counterintelligence history). Particularly given the historical significance of the attack, I'd err on the side of finding him notable. His enduring significance is evidenced by modern coverage such as this, this and this. Cbl62 (talk) 23:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

L. P. Lawrence
I think L. P. Lawrence is the new winner of the misplaced birth award. He was born in 1838 but I found him in the 1912 births category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Lotti Lobsiger-Schibli
Lotti Lobsiger-Schibli is one of a huge number of articles on people who competed in the arts competition at the Olympics. The issue is A-this competition was discontinued because it never actually drew top artists, and did not get as much attention as the sport side, so being in this competition is not a default sign of notability. B-that is what I would have said in 2020 when this article was created, with our deciding only Olympic medalists are default notable, I think the non-notability of arts competitors is even clearer. B-the only source here is a low quality over comprehensive source. C-the article mentions no other artistic work by the person. Generally if you search you can find the person mentioned somewhere in an arts database. I do not understand reliable source issues or art notability criteria enough to even begin parsing this, and so I generally move on to find actual athletes who I can parse the sourcing better, and who generally do not have any additional possible sources. So I am hoping someone who understands artistic notability will take a look at this. If not, I might try to figure out the matter more at some point.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Lenore Fenton MacClain
I am really struggling to see anything showing Lenore Fenton MacClain is notable. The "obituary" looks to be a family paid death notice, it does not even tell us where she was born. Find-a-grave is not a reliable source for anything othr than placing where she is buried. The competitions she won do not get coverage to show that it is notable. 2 of the sources are basically just name drops that say nothing about her. 1 additional source is a blog, that also does not say much substantial about her, but does not seem to constitute a reliable source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Soviet saxaphonists


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Jean Marion
I am really strugling to see how Jean Marion is notable. He is mentioned on one page in a book that covers something like 2550 films, and it is unclear that is more than just saying he composed a score to some film or other. He also has an IMDb entry, but that is not reliable and aims at a level of total coverage we do not aim for at Wikipedia (although at times we come close to achieving it). I took a look at the sources on his French entry, and not being fully fluent in French I am not sure, but they do not look like added reliable sources at first glance.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Maury Massler
Our article on Maury Massler is supported only by information published by his employers. We need independent sources to show notability, not employers covering and praising their own employees.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Yugoslav short story writers


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George Mitchell (referee)
I have grave doubts that the one source on George Mitchell (referee) is enough to show that he is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Walt Partymiller
The article we have on Walt Partymiller is sourced only to a work published by his employer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

James M. Paxson
I am really struggling to see either the sources or actions of James M. Paxson rising to the level of notability. Basically his one claim to marginal notability is being the moving force behind creating the birthplace recognition site for the birthplace of Gerald R. Ford. We do not seem to have the coverage of this to actually pass any reasonable reading of GNG in my view.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Mario Siletti
Mario Siletti seems to have a mix of uncredited roles and very small parts. I am not really seeing him meeting the criteria of multiple significant roles in multiple notable productions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Erna Petermann
We do not have multiple sources on Erna Petermann. He position in administering the programs of the Nazi Government does not seem to be at a level to make her default notable, so it would seem we would need more sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:56, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Bobby Petre
Our article on Bobby Petre is sourced only to jockeypedia. This appears to be a user generated site, so it is not a reliable source. Even if it was one source is not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Frank V. Phillips
Frank V. Phillips was a cinematographer. These are often not considered default notable, even on major productions. We only at best have one source adding towards GNG. We would need more to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW, there's a biography of him in American Cinematographer, volume 75. Unfortunately Google Books is it's usual helpful self on pre-internet periodicals and doesn't give the issue number. Anyway, this would bring this one to GNG with the one source already in the article.  He's probably also notable for the Academy Award nomination (WP:CREATIVE 4c). All the best,  78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 19:50, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would consider a cinematographer of a few major productions to meet WP:CREATIVE . I added a source and an external link to a book that quotes him on numerous pages. Yes, the cinematographer of many major Disney productions, and an Oscar-nominee, is a notable person. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 23:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Alexis Angelo Podchernikoff
I am finding it hard to see how a source that is one museum indicating it has some of his work in its collection, as the only source, is enough to show that Alexis Angelo Podchernikoff is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:05, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Little Man Popwell
I have a strong suspicion that neither of the sources we have for Little Man Popwell would count as reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Non-notable American films
It seems that American films are allowed to stand however low their citations are, or at least that non-American films get nominated for deletion much more often. I just came across The Morning After (1974 film) which is sourced only to IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Wilmer A. Reedholm
Wilmer A. Reedholm is another article lacking any reliable 3rd party sources. His death date is sourced to a primary source for example.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Richard Reeves (actor)
Richard Reeves (actor) is an article sourced to IMDb, which is an overly comprehensive and non-reliable source. He also has almost all uncredited roles. It really appears he was not a notable actor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

ANI issue
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Gloria Russell
Looking at the article on Gloria Russell I have to wonder if we could in fact find more sources. She has no clear passes of our sports notability criteria now that we no longer consider Olympians default notable. However I think if you looked the right places you might be able to find enough sources to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Crowded Paradise
Crowded Paradise is one of many articles on a film we have sourced only to IMDb, which we hold to be unreliable. Unless we hold the view every film commerically released is notable, we clearly need more sourcing than this.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Barbara Sheldon
I have doubts that Barbara Sheldon meets our inclusion criteria. Some of the films she was in we lack articles on, so they may not be notable. The article seems to be implying she "starred" in a film that she actually had an uncredited role in. Not all credited roles count as notable, so I have severe doubts she meets the multiple significant roles in notable productions rubric.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Marla Shelton
Marla Shelton appears to be an article based on two ultra comprehensive sources, one of which at least is also considered not reliable. I have doubts she meets the multiple signifcant roles in notable production criteria either. For the record I am coming across these poorly sourced articles just going through the 1912 births cat.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Ronald Shephard
It appears our article on Ronald Shephard is based on an obituary published by his employer. This does not meet the indepedent prong of GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Margaret Sheridan (writer)
There may be sourcing that shows that Margaret Sheridan (writer) is a notable person. We do not have it on the article though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Bob Shreve
Our article on Bob Shreve has only one source. Video clips of his program. These are primary sources. We need to show there is secondary source coverage of the subject.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Jay Silverheels
Jay Silverheels is clearly notable and we have the sources to demonstrate it. I am just wondering why in a "selected" filmmography, we seem to list every work he had an uncreadited role in. Should not "selected" mean we make it less than comprehensive? Some uncredited roles might still be worth including, but I see no justification to include all of them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It even includes at least 2 uncredited roles in productions we lack articles on.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Silverheels was Geronimo in the 1905 film Broken Arrow (1950 film). It was an uncredited part. I watched the film about 21 years ago and I did not remember the role at all. However it is an actual named role. It is his unnamed uncreadited role in Too Many Girls that would seem to be a role we would not need to include.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:02, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Robert Smith (American actor)
Robert Smith (American actor) is an article based on the Internet Broadway Database and IMDb. It is not clear that either is enough to show notability. I know the broeadway one is at least considered reliable, but is it selective enough that inclusion is an indication of notability? With this name sorting out sources is probably going to be a nightmare.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Citations for a common name such as this one are manageable when you search the titles of the productions in which he participated + his name. I added three citations from newspapers.com; there are more citations out there. He costarred with Russell in Auntie Mame and that show was a huge hit. He's notable. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 19:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Charles J. Starnes
Charles J. Starnes is an undersourced article on someone who studied stamps.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Category:2022 deaths
There are some articles in Category:2022 deaths that are inexplicably still in Category:Living people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

László Tharnói-Kostyál
All we know about László Tharnói-Kostyál is that his work was part of the literature event at an Olympics. This is hardly better than knowing that someone once entered a work they wrote in a student writing competition. Normally to show someone is a notable writer we need to know their work was actually publised.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Natividad Vacío
Natividad Vacío is an article sourced only to IMDb. A quick look at his roles leaves me doubting any rise to the level of notable roles in significant productions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

António Vilar
António Vilar is another article sourced only to IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:49, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Bob Warnock
Bob Warnock is an article that basically tells us he shot at a plane during the attack on Pearl Harbor. It has been tagged as unsourced for 9 years. I really do not see anything even close to a claim of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Heinrich Wenner
Heinrich Wenner is a lightly sourced article that seems to lack any clear claim to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Samuel G. Wildman
Samuel G. Wildman is sourced only to a work published by his employer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Deletion review for Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 January 28
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1911 births
I am just starting the review of Category:1911 births. It currently has 6,847 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I am done it is at 6743.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Howard Bare
Howard Bare was basically acting mayor of a city for 8 months. We lack good sourcing, and the city was not so large or important that the mayor would be absolutely default notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:33, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Ruth Godfrey (actress)
Ruth Godfrey (actress) is an article sourced only to IMDb with the large portion of her roles having been uncredited.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I found one citation from a Stooges FAQ book. It is not the best source, but I added it. Her work as a choreographer on The Ten Commandments is more interesting to me, but a simple search found nothing of that, and I probably won't look into it further. Adequate research with this one individual require looking under both the last names--perhaps together and apart. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 20:14, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Juanita Boisseau edit
I have reverted your addition of years of birth and death to Juanita Boisseau because no source was provided to support either of them. They need to be accompanied by an inline citation to a reliable source. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:49, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * After I posted the message above, I found the information in an existing cited source and added the dates of birth and death to the lead, with accompanying citation. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have moved the full dates to the body of the article, with only years in the opening parenthesis per the guidelines of the Manual of style.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Which section of the Manual of Style has those guidelines? MOS:BIRTHDATE indicates that putting the full dates of birth and death in the opening paragraph is the norm. Listing only the years in the lead seems to be an option to be used less often. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It says "but if they are also mentioned in the body, the vital year range (in brackets after the person's full name) may be sufficient to provide context." So it clearly says if we put the full dates elsewhere we do not need them in the opening.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * That is true, but it is equally clear that the full dates can be left in the opening. It's not a major point, and I don't intend to change the way you edited it. The paragraph leaves both options available to editors. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Eddie Dempsey
Eddie Dempsey is only sourced to Jockeypedia. Does anyone know, is this a user generated site, or does it constitute a reliable source?John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Egon Bazini
Egon Bazini is a throughly non-notable Olympic competitor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Five Little Peppers at Home
Five Little Peppers at Home is sourced only to IMDb with no real indication at all why it might be in any way notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I Sell Anything
I Sell Anything is an article lacking reliable sources that provide any actual good coverage. Unless something better can be found we almost certainly should delete his article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Appears to have been a major release with coverage in multiple sources. I added four references. Cbl62 (talk) 12:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Kelly Flint
I did find two very brief mentions of Kelly Flint in a local level theatre in a local paper. However I do not think those are enough to pass GNG. She is clearly not notable for her film roles, one of the 2 listed roles we have was uncredited.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Lydia Gromyko
Since you did not write anything in the edit summary, can I ask why did you delete three categories?--Egeymi (talk) 18:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Categories are supposed to reflect the nation the person was in. She was a Soviet person, thus Soviet categories. She had no notable actions or roles in the 21st-century so she clearly does not go in such a category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Charles Hoffman (screenwriter)
Charles Hoffman (screenwriter) is one of far too many articles we have sourced only to IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Ann Hovey
Considering how many of her roles were uncredited, I am really struggling to see how Ann Hovey actually meets any inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Grady Howard
I am really stuggling to see how Grady Howard is in any way notable. He was mayor of a place with well under 10,000 people that is immediately adjacent to a much larger city. All the sourcing is the type of incidental local coverage you will get in basically any case of a mayor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Paavo Hukkinen
Paavo Hukkinen is one of way too many articles we have sourced only to IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

J. Frank Huskins
J. Frank Huskins appears to have been a judge at a level that confers notability. However we really need way better sourcing on the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Vivi Janiss
I am really not seeing how our level of sourcing justifies having the article on Vivi Janiss.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Hans John
Hans John is an article with only one source. I am not even sure that source would add to passing GNG, but unless we can find additional sources, I do not see actual grounds to keep this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Journey to Freedom
A look at the Wikipedia article on Journey to Freedom shows that it lacks any reliable sources. IMDb is not reliable. Unless we can find another source there seems no justification for having the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Jacob Lofman
Jacob Lofman is said to have been born in Poland. This may mean he was born in Congress Poland. He was born in 1911, but lived most of his life after 1918, so this may be from a source that reflects that he lived in Poland. So he may have been born in areas of Austria-Hungary or Germany that became part of Poland after WWI. He may also have been born in areas of Germany that became part of Poland after WWII, but this seems less likely. It would help if someone could find better information on his place of birth.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

John Martino (writer)
John Martino (writer) is a rare pre-1960 time frame article that seems to violate not news, also has problems with original research (dates are primarily sources) and the one "substantial" entry is not very substantial. I have doubts that the source it is in passes the reliable source test either.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:14, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Francis Xavier McQuade
I found Francis Xavier McQuade in Category:1911 births. He actually belongs in 1878 births. This is one of the more extreme misplacements by birth year I have seen.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:41, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Would you be interested in reviewing the relevance of the sources for Shain Neumeier?
Almost two years ago, I attempted to delete the Shain Neumeier article. Being overwhelmed by Wikipedia's endless conflicts, I went too far and was blocked for a while, but on the other hand, nobody actually reviewed the sources in depth. Most of the sources are probably first person, or consist of only a few sentences that relate the subject (see Shain Neumeier as an example, though this is very old).

I am asking you because you seem to be a good editor that knows a lot about article deletions, and was hoping that you have the time to review the article with myself and others to achieve proper consensus. Additionally, one admin did tell me that at the very least, the entire article should be rewritten. Yleventa2 (talk) 15:58, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2006 establishments in Tajikistan


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Mildred Shay
Mildred Shay may be notable for her tabloid coverage, although I have to wonder if this runs afould of NOTRABLOID rules. However I do not see her notable as an actress, and so I am thinking we should just delete the whole filmography section which is almost completely made up of uncredited roles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Your edits to Edgar Puusepp and Peeter Mürk
Hello,

I noticed you redirected the pages Peeter Mürk and Edgar Puusepp to Weightlifting at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's 67.5 kg and Wrestling at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's Greco-Roman welterweight respectively. You are able to do this unilaterally and without consensus? You are effectively deleting articles without any sort of discussion or AfD. I have found no reasoning at WP:POFR that entitles a single editor (non-administrator) to effectively delete an article, no matter how short it is, simply because they deem it to not have proper WP:SIGCOV. There needs to be a discussion. If you feel an article lacks SIGCOV, then the best course of action before moving an article is to open a discussion on whether it should be redirected or deleted. You have also not done a proper WP:BEFORE on either article before you made these decisions, as I have found several sources for both articles. Someone else has reverted your edits, thankfully. Or else, I would have. ExRat (talk) 05:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Multiple times in Olympic related discussions people have said to redirect such articles and not bother bringing them to AfD.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Raymond Thompson (swimmer)
Raymond Thompson (swimmer) has a link on the article that goes to what is said to be an obituary from the Washington Post. The link is not working for me, so I cannot tell if this is really a staff written obituary or not. Are they covering him just because he was an olympic swimmer, or is there something more that our article neglects? Do they even mention he was an olympic swimmer? He was a US Naval Academy graduate born in 1911. Did he serve in WWII? He most likely graduated from the Naval Academy in about 1933. The amount our article does not say is astounding.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

BLP tracker
We currently have 1,031,562 articles in Category:Living people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Rupert von Trapp
Rupert von Trapp is basically known as a member of the Trapp Family Singers. I am starting to think maybe we should merge the articles on the various members into one article. I do not see the justification for having seperate artricles on each member.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Don Carlos Travis Jr.
I have to admit I am not seeing exactly where Don Carlos Travis Jr. meets our inclusion criteria. Even if he does, the article format is downright horrible. We should be using prose, and we do not need to give the exact names of all the positions he had with the Us occupation administration in Germany.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Bob Warnock
Bob Warnock is sourced only to what appears to be a family submitted death notice.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

1910 births
Category:1910 births currently has 6,969 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I am complete with reviewing the category there are 6,896 entries in it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Steve Clark (actor)
Hello Johnpacklambert, I'm the creator of the article of American actor Steve Clark (actor), I notice that in Articles for deletion/Steve Clark (actor) you said the article that it should be deleted because it lacked of reliable sources providing signifant coverage with Find-a-grave and IMDb sources not been reliable, it should be noted that I put them only as temporary sources until I found more reliable, which I already did and I already replaced the Find-a-grave and IMDb sources with more reliable sources that proves a signifant coverage. It should also be noted that this article is still under construction and I'm also fixing some other minor problems. I already write my reasons and my proofs of why this article should not be deleted on the Articles for deletion/Steve Clark (actor) which hasn't been closed yet, so would it be possible please that you to close the discussion and remove the Speedy deletion nomination tag from the article?Latyelcop (talk 03:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Stanley Boggs
The Spanish Wikipedia has a much longer article on Stanley Boggs than is in the English-language Wikipedia. However both seem to have no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Boyce Brown
Boyce Brown is sourced only to a blog.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely notable. Obit in The New York Times here. Also, here is a 1956 profile of him from Life magazine. For "Chicago Jazz: A Cultural History, 1904-1930", Google only permits me a limited preview, but Brown is described (at p. 92) as an important white jazz musician who played long runs in Chicago clubs during the late 20s and throughout the 1030s. Cbl62 (talk) 02:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Phoebe Child
Phoebe Child is an article that has had a notice on it of not having any sources for well over 12 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Your posting of notices like this is quite commendable. I added a couples sources to the article. They may not suffice under WP:GNG, particularly as the main source lack independence, but at least the article is no longer completely without sources. Cbl62 (talk) 02:30, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Trouble in Morocco
Trouble in Morocco is an article on a film sourced only to the unreliable and overly comprehensive IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Added a couple sources. Article still needs work. Cbl62 (talk) 02:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Ross E. Doughty
Ross E. Doughty almost certainly passes notability guidelines. I am 90% sure the Texas Supreme Court lives up to the expectation. I think in New York what is called the Supreme Court, is not really on a level to make members default notable, I think it is a lower level court, confusingly enough. However I know Utah and Michigan the Supreme Court is the top state court, same in California, and am pretty sure in almost all states. However we need to say more about Doughty. Which I am sure is both doable and sourceable if someone would just bother finding additional sources. People do not get placed on the supreme court, even a state supreme court, without either being a lawyer who has been noticed in some way before, acting in significant ways in the political realm that will result in coverage in published newspapers in some way, or being a judge at a lower level first. Often people do 2 or even 3 of the above things, but they will do at least one, so even if there are not pre-appointment sources, sources from appointment and death will say something more than that they were a justice.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hector Dyer
Hector Dyer is a totally unsourced article on an Olympian.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Cut and past moves
Hello John. Regarding John Philip Falter, I'm surprised you are not aware that you should not move an article by copying the text and pasting it to another title. If you are unable to move an article, you need to either request it at WP:RM/TR (for uncontroversial moves) or file a full WP:RM. Cheers, Number   5  7  19:34, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Marcel Gleyre
I tried to redirect Marcel Gleyre. It has been over ridden with no significant coverage added.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Russell S. Hughes
Russell S. Hughes is an article sourced only to IMDb, which is not reliable and overly comprehensive.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:05, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a major copy edit and added some reliable sources. Cbl62 (talk) 22:24, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Theodor Hüllinghoff
Theodor Hüllinghoff is an article that only says what event he competed in in the Olympics. It lacks any significant coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:38, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Egone Jakin
Egone Jakin is an example of one of thousands of articles on sportspeople we have sourced only to a database. It also does not meet the inclusion criteria for Olympians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

1910 births
It seems to me that far fewer articles in Category:1910 births are there incorrectly than for some other surrounding years. This is an impressionistic finding, I do not have exact numbers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Al C. Kalmbach
Al C. Kalmbach is an article based only on the information from a website that as far as I can tell is the website of the company he started.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Telemachos Kanthos
I am really struggling to see how the sourcing on Telemachos Kanthos is enough to show notability. This is especially true since the article seems to be claiming that he was a truly impactful artist based essentially on a website closely connected to him.21:40, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Zdzisław Kasprzak
Zdzisław Kasprzak is another undersourced Olympic article lacking significant coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:45, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1918 establishments in the Cook Islands


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Category:British people of English descent
Category:British people of English descent is a train wreck. It has a container category tag, which explicitly says "no articles". It somehow has 144 articles. This is a true mess.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Lou Kenedy
Lou Kenedy appears to have a biography published on him. At least as long as it is fully indepdent and put out by a press indepdent of the writer, this alone almost certainly shows he is notable. However all the sources are tacked on at the end in a really odd way. Also, the style of writting is unencyclopedic. The level of detail about the boats he owned seems excessive. I did improve the style some, but this looks to be a huge project, it still needs a lot of work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Masao Kinoshita
Masao Kinoshita has only one source. Not knowing Japanese I cannot easily evaluate if it is a source that presents significant coverage. However GNG does require multiple such sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Archery at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Women's team round
Every participant won a gold medal. BilledMammal (talk) 09:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Also: Basque pelota at the 1900 Summer Olympics. BilledMammal (talk) 13:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

The history of amateurism is the Olympics I am reading says the gold, silver and bronze medal system was not inaugurated until 1904. So it may be open to interpretation of awards at 1896 and 1900 count as medals at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Paul Mausner
Paul Mausner is an article sourced only to the website of the company he founded.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Hugh B. Miller
The intro paragrpah on Hugh B. Miller is clearly overly promotional. I am not yet sure how best to review it, but the current wording is clearly unencyclopedic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1855 establishments in Uruguay


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Good category to know about
See this. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Raymond Murray (speed skater)
I have been looking for more sources on Raymond Murray (speed skater). I have been able to from searching Newspaper archive determine that there are sources that mention Murray in relation to skaking from the 1920s. I am not sure that any of these sources rise to the level of significant coverage. My access is not allowing me to see sources in enough detail to determine that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Cid Nascimento
Cid Nascimento appears to not meet our inclusion guidelines for those who competed in the Olympics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It baffles me how many such articles there are on Wikipedia... Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:39, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, there were almost 4,000 participants in the 1936 Olympics. We have a few editos who managed to create I think articles on over 95% of all people who ever participated in the Olympics. I am not sure how the numbers went up since 1936, but at that point they only allow contestants from indepdent countries, so exscluded sub-Saharan Africa, the Soviet Union boycotted the Olympics that year as overly bourgeois, and south and south-east Asia really did not send anyone, maybe Afghanstan sent a few, but south-west Asia pretty much did not except Iran and Turkey. My loose guess is that we probably have about 150,000 articles on Olympic competitors. A few of them have signficant coverage, a few of them have coverage because of other points of notability, either other sports notability or non-sports notability, and then a huge number more are like this article totally unsourced. Hmm, I wonder how off my rough estimate is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


 * It is like shooting fish in a barrel to find undersourced articles like this on people born in any year between 1910-1929, and I doubt it improves much as you go out either way. Here Rashad Shafshak is another article literally sourced only to a database.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Miklós Németh (cyclist)
Miklós Németh (cyclist) is another article without adequate sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

John Newman (ice hockey)
John Newman (ice hockey) is an article without any significant coverage. I am thinking I will nominate it for deletion tomorrow.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

William Ratigan
William Ratigan may be a notable person. I found the collection of his papers at the University of Michigan with a short bio attached to it, and added a little relevant information. There is still a lot of work needed to improve this article though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Diana Ross (author)
Diana Ross (author) is an example of why we need to have some way that identified sources in a deletion discussion actually make their way into an article. When I came upon the article a few minutes ago the only source connected to the article was a website created by her son-in-law. The article has been tagged as undersouced for 16 years. 12 years ago there was a deletion discussion in which a few reviews, obituaries and maybe a few other sources were identified. However no one has cared enough for the next 12 years to do anything to improve the article. I added 1 obituary source, another I was not able to actually follow the link to. There is clearly a need to improve this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:23, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Erich Roth
Erich Roth was a low level functionary of the Gestapo. We only have one source. I am not seeing any good reason to have this article at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Jimmy Savage
Jimmy Savage our only source on him is an article published by his former employer on his death. This is a clear lack of independent sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:34, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Meinrad Schütter
Meinrad Schütter the level of sourcing we have on him does not seem on its own enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022
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Lilian Staugaard
Lilian Staugaard seems to have just made one apparence in the Olympics, in one competition, where she came in 18th. I was not able to find any other indications of her sports career. There was a person involved in a local level in fashion in Indiana in the 1970s of this name who I found one or two newspaper references to, but nothing even close to showing notability and that is almost certainly a different person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Carl Stotz
If Carl Stotz was actually the founder of Little League Baseball we should be able to have more than one source on him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Here are a couple of obits: here and here. Cbl62 (talk) 17:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Jean Stuart
The only source we have on Jean Stuart is an article about the horse riding accident in which she died. I am less than convinced this is enough to justify an article on her. This is a record far back I have seen for an article having issues with the not news guideline, since she died in 1926.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW her death did draw national notice: here, here, here, and here. Not seeing SIGCOV prior to her death. Cbl62 (talk) 17:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

1909 births
Category:1909 births has 6,857 articles in it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * After reviewing the articles there are now 6,746 articles in the category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Ugo Amaldi (mathematician)
Ugo Amaldi (mathematician) was a truly miscategorized article. He was born in 1875 but I found him in Category:1909 births. That means he was 34 years off in categorization.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Rudolf Andreassen
Rudolf Andreassen is an unsourced article. My searches came up with no significant coverage. My newspaper search came up with absolutely nothing. Google books generated some hits for the name that all seemed to be with a surname after it, and we about totally different things than a boxer. So I could find no actual sourcing about him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Newspapers.com has nothing (though it doesn't include Norwegian newspapers). Cbl62 (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Richard R. Baker
Richard R. Baker I am really not seeing how Baker as the official pronouncer of a spelling bee meets any notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Robert Ford Bentley
I am struggling to see how we have any secondary sources on Robert Ford Bentley.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

G. K. Saunders — known as "Ken"
Hi JPL. Rather than revert again, I'd like to take this one to some sort of arbitration. Not that it matters one jot, but "if the law says that then the law is a(n) ass". He was apparently known by the usual contraction of his second name, which can not be assumed. What do you think would be the appropriate forum? Doug butler (talk) 22:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

The best way to discuss this is making a discussion on the talk page on the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

We should categorize emigrants by country of origin.
I think we should get rid of Scottish, Welsh and English emigrants categories post 1707 and only use British. Emigration is about moving country to country, it is not about ethnicity per se.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:28, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I believe we made the first step in getting rid of the Cornish categories. I am not sure I have the patience to seek out and nominate the related categories. Someone will also have to make sure to separate out pre-1707 migrants. Alitalia work has been done along those lines, but there are still lots of pre-1707 migrants in the general categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Asma bint Adiy al-Bariqiyyah
Pulling up random articles today. Any idea how she might be considered notable? Cited refs don't appear to be SIGCOV. WP:NOTINHERITED? Cbl62 (talk) 14:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Art Bramhall
Art Bramhall is only sourced to a stats database, there is no signficant coverage. He only was at bat once in his professional career, and played in a total of 2 games. I see no way to make this a significant enough contribution to justify having an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * He actually is one of the rare athletes to play professional baseball, basketball, and football. Expansion started. Cbl62 (talk) 14:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * LOL. I am laughing because it just is ludicrous that we had an article that mentioned only one of his three professional careers. It is a sign that people are not actually creating biographies at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed. There's a lot of crappy sports bios out there. It's fun, though, to come across one like this and find there's more to it. Cbl62 (talk) 15:21, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

William Corson
William Corson is an article with no sources at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Robert Laurenson Dashiell Davidson
I just put a one source notice on the article Robert Laurenson Dashiell Davidson. However that is not fully explaining the issues. The one source that is there is not a working source. I have to admit I have serious questions about the large number of people who we have articles on who are experts on stamps. It seems an inordinantely high number of articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Soviet emigrants to Venezuela


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Guus van Ditzhuyzen
Guus van Ditzhuyzen is an article lacking significant coverage. There were no hits on Newspapers.com, or in google books or google news archive. The Dutch version also lacks sources. He was a non-medalist so I see no real signs of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Naoji Doi
Naoji Doi was born in 1894. When I found the article in was in the 1909 births category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:14, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hungarian expatriates in Morocco


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Maurice Dubofsky
Maurice Dubofsky is an article where the only source is Find a Grave. Find a Grave is considered to not be a reliable source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * JP - You are correct, and this article has been around in this shape since 2007! I will take a look and see if I can come up with sourcing suggesting that it is worth saving. Cbl62 (talk) 19:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Article has now been expanded. Cbl62 (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Paul Foley (admiral)
Paul Foley (admiral) has what claim to be a source. However it is just a weblink which may show us where exactly he is buried. It is not a source that supports the text of the article or gives any indication he is actually notable. With the deprecation of the old sldier notability guidelines, we clearly need sources about his life and actions to show that Foley is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

John A. Fosbery
If I am reading the article on John A. Fosbery right, there was some sort of book published on him, but it does not seem to have been used as a source. The article only has one source it appears. It is clearly in need of improvement.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Guyanese expatriates in Uganda


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Norwegian expatriates in the Russian Empire


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Arthur Korb
Arthur Korb is an article that has been posted with a no sources notice since Dec. 2009. This is over 12 years. Some of his songs were used by very popular singers of his time, so he may well be notable. We need sources to prove this though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Margie Liszt
Margie Liszt is an article sourced only to the unreliable IMDb. I am also struggling to see how any of her roles rises to the level of a significant role.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Eleanor Merriam Lukits
Eleanor Merriam Lukits has one source. I cannot exactly tell exactly what that source is either. It seems to be a book, but what about is less than clear, or how much it mentions Lukits, or how the writer of the book may or may not be connected to Lukits.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

John D. Mackay
John D. Mackay seems to have once wrote a letter to the editor suggesting making Orkney part of Scotland again. I am really struggling to see how this is enough to actually justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

You Can't Live Forever
You Can't Live Forever is an article on a novel, sourced only to the novel itself. We need at least some sources beyond a work itself to justify an article on a work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

James J. Matles
Our one source on James J. Matles is a publication of the trade union which he was a leader of about him. This is clearly not an independent source, so it does not pass the GNG formula, it is also only one source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Yasunori Miyoshi
Yasunori Miyoshi is an article with no actual sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Roger E. Murdock
Roger E. Murdock is an article with no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * His LA Times obit can be found here. It leaves me with doubts about his notability, as he was only "interim" chief for three-and-a-half months in 1969. Cbl62 (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That is what I was thinking as well. We did finally break the 15 years of having a no sources notice though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Frank Newnam Jr.
Frank Newnam Jr. is sourced only to Find-a-grave which is not a reliable source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Ethelmary Oakland
Ethelmary Oakland only did anything that got her any notice as a child and we have no reliable sources about her at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:53, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Georg Norin
The one link to a source on Georg Norin does not work. It is a source somehow connected with the Holocaust Memorial Museum. I do not see how that one source alone would actually show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Louise Odencrantz
Louise Odencrantz was born in 1884. I found her article in Category:1909 births.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2011 establishments in Dadra and Nagar Haveli


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1991 establishments in North Korea


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Douglas Barton Osborne Savile
I cringe at the statement in the article on Douglas Barton Osborne Savile that he went to school in "tropical Africa". It is the most outrageous thing how people talk about Africa as if it is a country. In every other continent the actual country where people do things is listed, but not in Africa.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Alex Seidel
Alex Seidel is an article sourced only to the websites of the company he founded. This is clearly not an example of independent coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Eric Stephens (comics)
Eric Stephens (comics) is one of far too many articles I have found that have had a notice of lacking sources on them since before the start of 2010.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Sam Termine
Sam Termine is an undersourced article on an Olympic competitor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Samuel Weissman
Samuel Weissman was an employee of the New York Times. He was over indexing the times, and not involved in the writing in any way. The sources we have on him are 1-the Social Security Death Index, which covers almost anyone who has died in the US since 1975, and says only birth and death year, I am not sure how we know this is the right person even, 2-a paid death notice, that is not a reliable secondary source, 3-mention in a multi-page article in Time Magazine on a Senator Eastman's committee calling up Times employees and quizzing them on their role in the communist party that says in full on him "Samuel Weissman, 46, supervisor of indexers on the Times Index, a reference aid to its files. He denied present Communist Party membership."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,861830,00.html#ixzz1N6uurbio

That is just not enough to justify an article on a person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

William Whipple Jr.
William Whipple Jr. is an article that makes a lot of claims without having sourcing that really supports the level of claims made.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

1908 births
The category Category:1908 births currently has 6,918 articles in it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I am done reviewing the category it has 6,804 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Gordon F. Allen
The sourcing for Gordon F. Allen is too connected with him. Also, he does not obviously meet any academic inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Dugan Aycock
Dugan Aycock is yet another article that has had a notice of no sources since before Jan. 1, 2010.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hirsch Berlinski
Hirsch Berlinski is sourced to one article in an academic journal. GNG generally requires multiple sources, so I am not convinced this one source is enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Stanislav Binar
Stanislav Binar is one of a huge number of one source articles that only tell us that the person was part of an Olympic Arts Competition. The Olympic Arts competition was never seen as a premier arts competition.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Deric Bolton
Deric Bolton is an article with no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Canadian expatriates in Yugoslavia


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Estonian emigrants to Poland


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The double standard on deletion
Why are people who create sub-standard articles that tell us nothing of substance about the person allowed to go on deletion discussions and scold the nominator for alledgedly not doing enough background searching when the person who created the article in the first place did not bother putting in even the minimal amount of effort to create the article. I am tired of this double standard where deletion nominators are held to a much higher standard than article creators.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Oreste Capuzzo
Oreste Capuzzo is another in a very long line of articles sourced only to one source. The source itself is a database not providing significant coverage. The sheer number of such articles that exist is staggering.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Gustavo Carinhas
Gustavo Carinhas is yet another article sourced only to a sports database.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

David Clarke (actor)
David Clarke (actor) is an article sourced only to IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Jean-Louis Clerc
Jean-Louis Clerc is another in far too many articles on artists we have sourced to a single data-base source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Charles Crawley
Charles Crawley is an undersourced article on someone who played in 1 cricket match.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Hilton A. Robertson for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hilton A. Robertson is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2004 establishments in Chandigarh


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Expatriates of the Ottoman Empire in Brazil


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Soviet educational theorists


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Pedro Espinel Torres
Pedro Espinel Torres has had a notice on it of no sources for just over 9 years. I know, for such notices, this is not actually all that long, but really we should resolve such notices one way or another in well under a year.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Edwina Eustis Dick
I am really struggling to see how the sourcing on Edwina Eustis Dick meets any inclusion criteria at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Michael Ewanchuk
I am really struggling to see how the sourcing on Michael Ewanchuk adds up to showing notability. He was a writer of hyper-local history, and I do not see the strong sources that would show notability, or how he would pass notability for either writers or academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:28, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Nikolay Firyubin
Nikolay Firyubin has had a no sources notice since March of 2012.

AfD/Özlem Çarıkçıoğlu
Hi! You say that you have decided to exclude Olympians eithout a medal. Would you please let me know where I can learn about it. Thanks.CeeGee 03:31, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This page Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)/Archive 43 has the full discussion of the change at the top.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Gerda Gattel
Our sourcing on Gerda Gattel consists of one source that is basically a table, nor really an article on them, and the Social Security Death Index. That source covers everyone connected with social security who died, which is close to every adult in the US from 1975 on, and a large percentage from 1963 on, and far too many to show anything of note starting in the mid-1930s. It is a primary public record, basically at the level of a death certificate, and so in no way adds towards showing noitability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Pierre Gaudin
The one linked source on Pierre Gaudin does not work. Even if it did I fail to see how this would show that he was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

James Gow (writer)
James Gow (writer) is essentially sourced to a database on writers. Unless we can find more sources on him I really do not see that an article is justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Fred Graham (actor)
Fred Graham (actor) is an article sourced only to IMDb which is not reliable. He has a huge number of uncredited roles. There may be some credited role in there, but mostly I see uncredited roles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:52, 15 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I added two sources, one of which lists two other sources, including a Variety obituary. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 19:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I incorporated more source material into the article. Nothing is uncited now. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 11:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Thomas Greenwood (activist)
The only source on Thomas Greenwood (activist) is the collection on him in a library. This does not seem to be enough to justify having an article on him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:54, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Not any longer. But the two sources now in the article are it, as far as I can tell.  For now.  Cheers.  7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:47, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Berniece T. Hiser
Berniece T. Hiser has only one listed source that is not by her. That source looks to be from a fairly local paper, and at best it looks like it incidentally mentions her. This is clearly not the level of sourcing on which we can build an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Russell Howland
Russell Howland is an article sourced only to what appears to be a source that is an essay by him on when he heard the John Sousa band. When I clicked on the link it did not open up, but that is what it appears to be from the description. Unless we can find way better sources we cannot justify having this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Fernando Huergo
Fernando Huergo does not seem to actually cover the most notable person with that name. There seem to be a jazz musician who seems to be more notable. Google books here does have 2 top sources that may be on this Huergo. 1 is a bare mention in a table showing that he was on a team of 6 that got silver in a fencing event at the 1951 Pan America games. The other is a correspondence to Fernando I. Huergo in the archives of the International Olympic Committee on Argentina. It is a letter mentioned in a footnote, so there is nothing substantive actually said about Huergo in the source, and he is not even the creator of the correspondence, just its recipient. This may or may not be two sources that reflect that there may be more on Huergo. I do not even know where to begin to look for sources in Spanish. What we have is not enough, but there may be stuff out there somewhere.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hancock County High School
Hancock County High School is sourced only to the high school's own webiste. It has had a notice mentioning this problem since before January 1, 2010.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

People need to tone down attacks on those who are trying to enforce actual Wikipedia guidelines
I inserted the following on an editors page, who removed it, evidently because he feels it is perfectly OK to group and attack other editors.


 * Trying to force people into groups such as "deletionists" who are just trying to actually ensure that Wikipedia articles cover people who actually have received significant coverage in reliable sources is overly antagonistic and clearly not an example of being respectful of others or of assuming good faith.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Fotios Isaakidis
Fotios Isaakidis is another one of thousands of perma stubs on an Olympic competitor that lacks any significant sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hancock County High School
Hancock County High School still has no indepdent sources. My search produced only incidental mentions, no sources that would come close to showing notability. I have to admit considering who removed the tag, and the fact that in the talk page on Talk:Fernando Huergo that editor has persisted in referring to me in a way I expressly told him I found to be rude, this does look a lot like hounding to try and stop any and all of my contributions to Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I have gone ahead and nominated this article for deletion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Sigizmund Kats
Sigizmund Kats is an article with no sources. It has been tagged as having no sources since Nov. 2007, so for over 14 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Manmohan Krishna was born in 1922. I found him while reviewing Category:1908 births. The even more shocking thing is this is not the largest misplacement in a birth category I have seen.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Earle O. Latham
Earle O. Latham is an article with no sources at all. His positions do not look to be default notable, although we might be able to salvage something if someone could find sources. The article has been notified as lacking sources for 8 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Derrick Leon
How to we have so many uncited articles. Derrick Leon is another example of such an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:39, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Kourkène Medzadourian
We have an article on Kourkène Medzadourian and a linked one on the Armenian French scouting organization. I have my doubts about the accuracy of the infomration there though. Unless details are way off, he would have left under age 20.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Nigerian Jesuits


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Doris Nelson Neal
The sourcing we have on Doris Nelson Neal does not seem enough to support a first.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Franco Ogera?
I noticed you added a link to an AfD for Franco Ogera to the daily log, but I couldn't find a corresponding article or AfD page. I'm not sure what you were intending to link, but I removed the redlink from the log for now. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:07, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I think I misspelled it. It is Franco Orgera. I missed an r.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Miguel Ortega
Miguel Ortega is one of far too many articles with one source which is a database that do not meet any of our inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:40, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

R. William Patterson
R. William Patterson is an unsourced article. He was mayor of Dayton, Ohio. He also ran for US house but lost. We clearly need sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Charles F. Rousseau
Charles F. Rousseau is one of a great many articles we have on stamp experts who have not enough sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

John Russell Savige
I am not seeing how the sources we have on John Russell Savige are enough to show notability. We have 2, and one is a book by a family member published by the family association.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI
Are you going to withdraw that personal attack against Lugnuts? If you carry on editing without doing so I will assume the answer is "no". Black Kite (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Black Kite (talk) 18:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Caroline Vernon
Caroline Vernon may be notable enough as a memoir writer to merit an article, but the one source we have on her does not seem enough to show this.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Albert Wessels
Albert Wessels is an article that has had a no sources tag for over 13 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Added a link to his memoir. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 13:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Willy Zegarra
Willy Zegarra is an atrociously written article. It is sourced only to blogspot. His level of theatre roles does not seem to have ever been in notable productions. The prose is down right unreadable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

1907 births
I am about to review Category:1907 births. It currently has 6,687 entries. This is just over 100 less than 1908 births after I have finnished reviewing it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I have completed the review there are 6,566 entries in the category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Norman Alexander
Norman Alexander is an article that really needs expansion. Specifically it needs conversion of the table of his roles into prose that dicusses what he did when and how that is important. We also need better integration of the matierial on his educational appointments in British Malaya and what happened to him there during the Japanese occupation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Herbert Allen (inventor)
I am really struggling to see how the accomplishments of Herbert Allen (inventor) actually rise to the level of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Paul R. Anderson
Paul R. Anderson was president of Temple University. That is essentially all the article on him says. We really need expansion with his educational background, his career beyond heading the university, and some substantive statements about what happened at the university under his direction.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Deletion sorting/Olympics
Hello. I've begun a deletion sorting page for articles about the Olympics which are nominated at AfD. Hope you find it useful. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * A great idea, and keep them coming. Well, WP:NOLYMPIC was recently changed, so a delsort page makes sense. Keep it shakin'! North America1000 13:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * This is a great idea. Do we have one for high schools? I ask because I think even though it has been 5 years, we may be closer to implementing the 5 month old change to Olympic notability than we are to the 5 year old change to high school notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm glad you think it's useful. I couldn't comment on high schools, I'm afraid. If you want to set one up, it's very easy. I used an existing one as a template. You need to add the new delsort page to WikiProject Deletion sorting/Flat. Using it is easy enough with clear instructions transcluded onto the delsort page. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

I am tired of being constantly attacked for trying to contribute to Wikipedia
I am tired of being subjected to constant verbal abuse for my contributions to Wikipedia. I am also tried of being accused of being lazy when it is people who created articles without even bothering to even try to find any sources who are clearly lazy.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi John. Do you have specifics? Herostratus (talk) 01:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

It mainly comes out of a comment that included expletive deleted in a discussion of the deletion of I believe the article of Fernando Aguero. Then there is my most recent deletion nomination that was called a "revenge" nomination by Lugnuts. I am not trying to pick out articles by him. It is not my fault that most of the thousands of one source articles on non-medlaing Olympians we have are by one editor. Although I have nominated such articles for deletion from other editors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, I choose the wrong name. John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:28, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

It is the deletion discussion on Franco Orgera. I have had someone use an expletive to describe me. I have been told that nominating an article lacking any substantial sources is a form of "abuse". I have been called lazy because I am not willing to route add sources from German that I do not understand. John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

That article still only has bare sports table sources. One if those sources I looked at had no explanatory text at all. John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

My assessment of the Orgera situation may have been off, but I made a good faith attempt to find sources in Google and Google books and Google News archive. I find it wholly unacceptable that I get all these attacks and abuse for supposedly wasting people's time with the nomination but no one is getting on the case of the person who created thus article for not at all trying to even scratch the surface. The every increasing demands on deletion nominators are not at all being paralleled with any increase in demands on article creators.

People are not explaining exactly which sources there are that actually provide in depth sourcing. Evidently even asking that people name and explain which sources are at a level to pass GNG is not at all acceptable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * OK, User:Johnpacklambert and yeah, there's really no call for Phillip Bridger to imply a curse, but I mean, the article was kept, which kind of indicates that it's probably OK. It's OK with me. It's not a great article, but it's OK, so why spend time and energy on deleting it. Instead, focus on adding value to the Wikipedia, as you usually do. My general approach is expressed at User:Herostratus/7 Virtues and User:Herostratus/Wikipedian's Meditation. Apparently people like to make articles for every single Olympian, and at least a few readers like to read them. So what's the upside to stopping them? Don't do that, and you won't get yelled at. Herostratus (talk) 14:59, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It is not "people" who like to make such articles, the vast majority are the works of one editor who has since been banned from making such small articles because his mass creation was deemed disruptive. In Ocotober we explicitly determined that Olympians were not notable. Having huge numbers of articles lacking reliable sources is the exact situation that has lead to us having outright hoaxes last for over 15 years. Wikipedia articles need to be based on reliable sources, not just on some sports stat table somewhere.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * John, we all agree that articles should be based on reliable sources. Personally, I am way more concerned with how the interactions of editors of the encyclopedia affect collaboration efforts than that the fact there is a 15 year old hoax that is unsupported by reliable sources. Sure, we all want more reliability, I think that's a noble cause, but our daily interactions in the various corners of the project are directly impactful to continuing to build upon the core principles. A 15 year old unsupported hoax probably isn't affecting the project as much as you think. I have no doubt in my mind what you do and say and believe is in good faith, even when I happen to disagree with the content of what you do, say and believe. It's why I have lobbied so hard for the clearest of decisions at AN/I discussions concerning you, because I know the more broad the scope of any decision the more it affects you from your perspective of acting in good faith to improve the encyclopedia. -- A Rose Wolf  15:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , if "the vast majority are the works of one editor who has since been banned from making such small articles because his mass creation was deemed disruptive", that's different, that's OK. Perhaps a robot should be requested to clear out these articles. But then, after all, Fernando Aguero (which is the article I looked at because it was mentioned at the top) was kept at AfD, and the creator User:Lugnuts isn't blocked, altho granted he has a long block log, but for being uncivil etc. Maybe this is not one of those article, could you point me to one? (It the articles are literally a "hoax" as Asareel (User:ARoseWolf) has suggested, then yes the articles should be speedied (if you're 100% sure its a hoax) or AfD'd (if not). Are you getting flack for nominating articles about people who don't actually exist, or what? Herostratus (talk) 16:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , you are absolutely correct. I'm not arguing against the deletion of any particular article. I agree that, if it is a hoax and JPL can accurately articulate that then it should be deleted. My comment was just to say that I was more concerned with the aspersions and personal attacks, if they in fact occurred, than a 15 year old hoax, as stated by JPL above, which is mostly harmless if it's been here that long without being detected. It should most definitely be deleted if that can be proven. But the immediate threat to the goals of the encyclopedia is the adverse interactions and the disruption to the collaborative efforts that follows. -- A Rose Wolf  17:59, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI, Fernando Aguero was no hoax. He was part of a ruling triumvirate, being a placeholder until an election, he was co-president from May 1, 1972 until March 1, 1973.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:43, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * No one ever argued Aguero was a hoax. If he was in fact part of the strucutre of running a government that is a fact that was totally ignoreed in the article when I found it. When I found it the article did not mention any thing beyond the one olympic appearance. The point is that being flooded with low sourced and unsourced articles makes outright hoaxes both possible and hard to detect. I also removed the referencing link because that just caused it to appear at the bottom in an unrelated discussion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Although actually the comments on Aguero are totally unrelated to Franco Orgera, who is the person who is being discussed. Orgera was an Italian sportsman, who was also a soldier for the Francoist government in Spain. Aguero was a Nicaraguan person. They are totally different.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Again, reading the comment both John and I made thoroughly would reveal that neither John nor I said any particular article was a hoax. John said that the situation gives more opportunity for a hoax to be created and because of obscurity it may be here for a long time (15 years as an example). My response was a personal belief. I think the aspersions and incivility that John described in his initial comment, if true, are more of a immediate concern than an obscure hoax that no body really even looks at. It will eventually get deleted if it is a hoax. That's all my comment was saying. -- A Rose Wolf  19:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

We need to make it harder to create new articles
We really need to go to requiring all articles to going through AfC and not letting any articles go through without substantial sources. We have far too many articles that have existed for over 10 years with no sources for the current system to be justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:52, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Stanley Bell
Stanley Bell is an article that is clearly not a biography. We know he was an engineer and competed at the commonwealth games in 1930. He was 23 then. We know nothing after that, at all. One of the two sources is a passenger list. Being on a list of passengers on a ship is not at all anything adding to notability, and it is a primary document. The other is the database listing the Commonwealth games competitors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The list of athletes at the commonwealth games used, just lists "S. Bell". I am not even sure how people are sure from that information that the passenger listing is even for the same Bell. I do not have access to ancestry at the moment, but unless that passenger list entry say "Swimmer/Engineer" under occupation, I am not sure at all where that claim came from. Even if the lists entry does say that, how do we know that Stanley Bell is "S. Bell" in the sources. Passenger lists are not reliable, period. While many of the stories of Ellis Island name changes misrepresent what acctually occurred, stated occupations are not reliable, place of birth and age are not always right, and anyway the passenger list is literally a listing of everyone who went on a ship, so unless we are prepared to create articles on everyone who there are any surviving records for, they are not at all a source that at all builds towards notability. Nor is the listing in a table of all competitors for England at the 1930 Commonwealth Games.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:12, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Well about the first thing that turned up in my google search is this, which is about two other swimmers with last names Stanley and Bell.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Then I get this source about an award to an American sailor named Stanley Bell.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a novel that has a character named Stanley Bell. There are some other references to some other people named Stanley Bell, that do not make it clear who the person mentioned is, but it is not seemingly this person. I have found zero sources about this Stanley Bell.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Herbert J. Bloch
Herbert J. Bloch is an article based on one source. I think we need indepedent sources showing coverage of him. The source does not even both to tell us anything about where he lived for the first 29 years of his life, only telling us he immigrated to the US in the year he turned 29, nothing about where he was before that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:46, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Walter J. Conrath
Walter J. Conrath is an article for which the only source we currently have is a non-working link.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Harry B. Cunningham
Harry B. Cunningham is a clearly undersourced article. It is only sourced to some references in a book co-authored by Sam Walton. Cunningham was the person who was mot influention in Kresges opening Kmart. The article needs way more details, and considering that Kmart is all but gone, its lauding of Kmart as a great success seems a little off.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:26, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I added 2 obits as external links. There is much more newspaper coverage of Cunningham. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Dick Dinsdale
Dick Dinsdale is an article sourced only to Who's Who. I believe this is the British one, not the American one. The British one is not so bad, since evidently you can not directly pay to be included. However we have ruled the British one a not reliable source because they do not fact check the bios provided by those who they chose to include. Clearly we should not base an entire article on it, and being in it in and of itself is not an absolute sign of notability. Dinsdale may well be notable, but we need more sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:31, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Emigrants to the Dutch East Indies


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Paul Werner Gast
Paul Werner Gast I found in the 1907 birth category. He was actually born in 1930. This is one of the more extreme misplacements of birth category I have seen.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Carlos Graham
Two things about Carlos Graham, if his name in the article is written in full in proper Spanish form Graham is his apellido segundo, and so the short form of his name should be Carlos Aganza. Yes, I know this is not always followed. There is a person I know who was a chemist for Dow who went by Carlos + his apellido segundo, but he was born in Mexico. He mainly did this because A-Americans do not understand Spanish-lnguage style names and B-his parents divorced when he was about 10, and his mom went back to her maiden name, so by using his apellido segundo he was unsing the same name as his mom. There may have also been an attempt to hide the fact he was part Hispanic, I am not sure about that. However with Graham our article even says he was known as Carlos Aganza, so putting the article under the incorrect form of his name does not seem justified. Although we also have 0 sources on him, and it has been tagged since Decemeber 2009 with htis problem. It was created in 2006 with this problem and by an editor who has Graham in their user name. It appears that at least his one screenwrigting credit was as Carlos Aganza. There is no linked Spanish-language article, but maybe because no one though to link to Carlos Aganza, I have not gone to the Spanish-language Wikipedia to see if there is anything there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Yousef Haikal
Yousef Haikal needs to be converted to prose form from bullet point form.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Sir Andrew Horsbrugh-Porter, 3rd Baronet
Sir Andrew Horsbrugh-Porter, 3rd Baronet is an article I am struggling to see how the sourcing justifies our having it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Tōru Kōno
Tōru Kōno is one of several articles we have on Japanese photographers that consist of one sentence, have one source, and in no way indcate anything other than that they took photographs. Biographies should have a little more substance than this.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:British people in colonial Ceylon


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Cape Verdeans in mainland Portugal before Cape Verdean indepedence?
Should we have a category for Cape Verdeans who were in mainland Portugal during the time that Portugal essentially considered Cape Verde as much a part of it as it does Maidera or the Azores? We have Category:Migrants from French Algeria to France, even though France considered Algeria not a colony, but an integral part of the country. On the other hand we have no category for Puerto Ricans who migrated to the mainland US, nor do we have such for those who migrated from Hawai'i to the mainland when Hawai'i was a territory.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Marcel Louette
Marcel Louette has had a tag of no sources on it for over 14 years. That is close to a record.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Harriet Lundgren
Harriet Lundgren is an article sourced only to her papers. This seems to thus be lacking in independent coerage. There may well be such, but none is linked.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * There is coverage of her work as a dancer on newspapers.com. I found one piece from 1936 that included a photograph and added it as a second external link. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 16:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Cyrus Longworth Lundell
Cyrus Longworth Lundell is an article that has some major issues. It focused on what he was doing in the early 1930s, and does not cover well the remained of his life. Did he ever even get a degree? It also coatracks about Chicle, which seems to not be neccesary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

José Emilio Lunghi
José Emilio Lunghi was mayor of a place with just over 100,000 people. He might be notable, but currently the article we have on him has no sources at all. In fact, I have not even verrified he was in fact mayor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Melchor de Marchena
Melchor de Marchena is clearly an undersourced article. If you look at it closely the only source is about a person who he performed one concert with, and is cited to one page on a book. I am not sure that source even supports everything we have in the article. It looks like the Spanish version may user 3-4 other sources, but I cannot at first glance tell how reliable they are.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI notice
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Richard Petzoldt
Richard Petzoldt inexplicably has some of its text in a language that is not English.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Appealing limitations
I am thinking it may be time to revisit at least the scope of the current limitation on me. I am not sure how to file an appeal, and evidently even discussing that it exists can in some people's minds be construed as in some way violating it. So I am very unsure what it is safe to say.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:33, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Which limitation? DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The one that keeps me from editing a lot of articles, which includes a clause to "broadly construe" it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong but WP:AN might be a good venue to start. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Augustin Schramm
Augustin Schramm makes a lot of assertions including that he was "suspected" to have had a role in an assasination, with no sources at all. This is just not a workable way to have an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Ryūkichi Shibuya
Ryūkichi Shibuya is one of at least 10 articles I have come across on Japanese photographers that literally only say the person was a photographer. We need more substance to justify an article. If we are going to have just that, we should just make a list.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:59, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Marie Thérèse of France (1667–1672)
I am really struggling to see how having Marie Thérèse of France (1667–1672) as an article is justified. She died at age 5, and the article really does not tell us anything directly about her. It mainly tells us what exactly she was called, and tells us what evidently her mom planned for her, although she died at 5 so I am not sure how that is relevant.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Aileen Thomas
Aileen Thomas is one of a staggeringly high amont of articles sourced only to sports reference.com.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

1906 births
Category:1906 births currently has 6,562 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I have finnished reviewing this category, it has 6,450 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:18, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:British expatriates in the Austro-Hungarian Empire


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E. Preston Ames
E. Preston Ames is one of far too many articles we have sourced only to the unreliable IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree that sourcing needs to be improved, but a two-time winner of the Academy Award for art direction is clearly notable. Cbl62 (talk) 02:57, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Princess Anne of Orléans
Princess Anne of Orléans is an article on a person who was part of a deposed royal house, that had no power during her lifetime, that I find it really hard to see how the sources are enough to justify the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

R. E. Edlefsen
R. E. Edlefsen was mayor of Boise when it had about 34,000 people. It was the capitol of the state then, and may have been the biggest city in the state. We clearly need more sources than the article currently has to have an article on him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Here are a few: /,, . Cbl62 (talk) 03:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

E. L. "Shorty" Fuller
E. L. "Shorty" Fuller is an article lacking any reliable sources. The sources on the article are find a grave and the registry of a collection of his papers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Czechslovak male hammer throwers


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Vince Glionna
I am not seeing enough sources either on the article on in searches to justify an article on Vince Glionna. I am busy right now so can not nominate it for deletion yet. I may later today or tomorrow when I have time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The obituary mentions I have found are not substantial. E.g., this. Even the coverage of his participation during the Olympics was not particularly deep. E.g., this. Cbl62 (talk) 02:55, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Edgar L. Harden
Edgar L. Harden is an article that really needs more sources. It also need to say more about his time as university president, especially at Michigan State University.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:34, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is some SIGCOV that can be used to improve the article: /,, and /. Cbl62 (talk) 03:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Václav Houdek
Václav Houdek is one of way too many articles on entrants in the Olympic arts competion sourced only to one database source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Nicola Impastato
I am not even convinced the one source we have on Nicola Impastato is reliable. It is clearly not enough on its own to justify having an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:05, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

John Edward Jennings
At a minimum we need clear more findable citations for John Edward Jennings. It would clearly help if someone were to find better sourcing as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Manzie Johnson
Manzie Johnson is sourced only to All Music. I do not think the nature of AllMusic means we can justify an article with only that as a source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Theodor Jung
We really need more sources on Theodor Jung to show that he is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Harold Kandel
I am really struggling how the facts and sources on Harold Kandel actually justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:20, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Mayeus Lafleur
Mayeus Lafleur is another example of a musician for whom the current sourcing is not enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I added more sources. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Otto Lang (actor)
Otto Lang (actor) may well be a notable actor and educator of actors, but our sources in the article are clearly not enough to show that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Walter C. Langsam
Walter C. Langsam is notable. He was president of the University of Cincinatti, and a prolific historian who wrote 15 books. Our article is bare bones with few sources, and says nothing of substance on him. An expansion of the article with more sources and more content seems very needed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Alfred Laubin
Alfred Laubin is yet another musician for whom the current sourcing does not justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure it's enough but here is some coverage that could be used to improve the article:, /

Clarence Lieder
The sourcing we have on Clarence Lieder does not seem to be enough to justify having an article on this mechanic to mobsters.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No opinion on notability, but here's some coverage:, , , , , . Cbl62 (talk) 03:41, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Wenonah Bond Logan
Wenonah Bond Logan appears to have been an at least somewhat notable academic. The article we have is in horrible shape, emphazing too much her hair and too little what she did in her career.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Slats Long
Slats Long is another musician for whom our current article and sourcing is not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This would have failed WP:AfC miserably. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Some days it feels like half the articles on Wikipedia would fail AfC. It is probably not that bad, but there are a lot that would.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Added referencing to Jacques Legrand
Hi John, I'm not sure if it would have an effect on your nomination, but I was able to find a good amount of referencing for Jacques Legrand (resistance leader) since the start of the AfD. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Alonzo B. May
Alonzo B. May is an article sourced only to the link to his papers. This is not a secondary source, and so we have no secondary sources on him. Having secondary source coverage is an absolute requriement for any article in Wikipedia. We need to have information on a person developed by someone else that went through the process of publication, otherswise we are more or less doing original research, which is not what Wikipedia is meant to do.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

H. Daniel McLean
H. Daniel McLean was born in 1877. For reasons that baffle me I found him in the 1906 birth year cat. This is one of the biggest misplacments of a birth year category I have seen.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Norval Mitchell
Norval Mitchell was a low level authority of the British goverment in India who wrote an autobiography and a biography of one of the people he served under. Our article currently has no sources. We would need actual sources to show that he is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

William V. Morrison
William V. Morrison appears to bounce between being a non-notable person, and violating Wikipedia policy on frienge theories. I at least see no reason to have an article on him separate from the article on the imposter claimant to be Billy the Kid that we also have. The article on the imposter claimant seems to spend way too much time and energy on backing up the claims, and at the same time does not really give us anything on the actual background of the person in question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:10, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1632 establishments in Wales


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Phil Pardee
The article we currently have on Phil Pardee is too little sourced to justify keeping it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Crawford F. Parker
Crawford F. Parker looks to be clearly notable. The article however does have no sources and has been tagged with this problem for almost 3 years, which shockingly enough is actually well below average for the length of time a no sources tag has existed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Franz Ruff
I am really struggling to see how Franz Ruff is notable. He is mentioned in relation to one project which he actually helped his father complete. This just not seem to be enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Carlos Salazar Herrera
Carlos Salazar Herrera has a notice that it may not meet inclusion criteria for over 10 years. It only has one source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * But he does meet the inclusion criteria. He's got a good sized article in the Spanish Wikipedia for starters. Herostratus (talk) 03:17, 13 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source. That article looks at first glance to be mainly built off of sources writern by Herrara. I have not analyzed it deeply, but my first look at it does not make it seem to be grounded in indepdent 3rd parety sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Ivan Sergeychik
Ivan Sergeychik is an article with no sources. It has had a note to this effect for over 5 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:46, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Takashi Shimokawara
I am really struggling to see how Takashi Shimokawara meets any inclusion criteria. Holding an athletic record in a country for people over 95 years of age just does not seem to be grounds for inclusion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:33, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

William Skeet
William Skeet was a cricket player who evidently played one match. Except we do not even know what year the match was in. The article is sourced to only one database source. This does not seem to be enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Germinal de Souza
The sourcing we have on Germinal de Souza does not seem to be enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:37, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Lyman B. Sutter
Lyman B. Sutter was mayor of Long Beach, California for about 1 year from 1953-1954. The only sourcing we have on him is the city link on the history of who was mayor. We clearly need better sourcing to show that Sutter was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:52, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Júlia Székely
Our sourcing on Júlia Székely is clearly not enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Elizabeth Tate
Elizabeth Tate ran a boardinghouse in Iowa City. I am really struggling to see how the facts of her life and the sourcing add up to enough to show that she is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Raul Torres (singer)
Raul Torres (singer) is another article sourced only to all music. We clearly need better sourcing to justify this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:50, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Ralph Tucker
Ralph Tucker was a mayor. He was also a candidate for higher office. He may have been notable. However our article on him with no sources clearly does not show that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

20th-century Iranian people
Hi John. I was wondering, why did you remove this category? Thanks in advance, - LouisAragon (talk) 22:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Mahant Kirpal Das for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mahant Kirpal Das is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People of the Russian Empire of Scottish descent


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William Walther
William Walther was a bozer who does not seem to meet any inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:16, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Art Whizin
Art Whizin is an article built entirely on one source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Victor Wong (actor, born 1906)
Victor Wong (actor, born 1906) had almost all uncredited roles and the article is only sourced to IMDb. I am really struggling to see any way he would meet our inclusion criteria for actors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:00, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

1905 births
Category:1905 births currently has 6,514 articles. I am about to review it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:19, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am now finished with the review of 1905. The category now has 6,408 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Lester Picker
I am struggling to see how the article on Lester Picker actually passes no news guidelines. This is the first article I have seen with pre-1920s issues with this regard.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Grady Auvil
Grady Auvil was a fruit grower, who received the Apple grower of the year award. The sources we have on him are none of them indepdent, secondary 3rd party sources and a search turned up no such sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 11:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

same name elsewhere on the internet
Not really Wikipedia related, but just curious, do you also post to ldschurchgrowth blog? I'm there with "1" added to my handle.Naraht (talk) 14:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. I use my full name consistently at most places I post online. My grandson also calls me by my full name about a third of the time. Consistenly using my full name has pluses and minuses. I have outlying opinions on this matter, such as thinking Wikipedia should mandate people use their full real names. I doubt it will ever happen, especially since doing so short term would cause confusion since 95% of users would need to change their names. However I still think it would be good. I even more like the few users who use their name plus birth year, so mine would be John Pack Lambert (1980- ), but I rushed into creating my account before I realized that would be a good user name, so I am stuck with the not quite as good user name. My one relative that I know has a Wikipedia account uses the same full name format for his user name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Technically the website you mention has changed it name and now uses a different name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I identify who I am on my userpage so I'm not really posting "anonymously" and I tend to use Naraht (or some form when I've had to remake accounts) pretty much everywhere. Yes, technically the site does, but that's still the significant URL part and I figured you would recognize it if you were that person. :) Naraht (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Richard Batterton
Richard Batterton may well be notable. However the sourcing we have on the article is not enough to show that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Carl Rudolf Berghult
Carl Rudolf Berghult is an unsourced article. It has been tagged as unsourced for over 12 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:24, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Alexander Bülow
Alexander Bülow was someone who worked at a Nazi death camp during WWII. I am not actually seeing any clear claim to him being notable, and the sources do not seem to be enough to show notability either.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Edward F. Cantasano
Our article on Edward F. Cantasano is not really about Cantasano. It is about the incident where Churchill was hit by the car driven by Cantasano. I am less than convinced this incident merits an article. However if it does, we should name the article after the incident, not after the non-notable person driving the car that hit Churchill.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Juana Capdevielle
I am not seeing how Juana Capdevielle merits an article. She was one of many people killed in the Spanish Civil War and related incidents, and nothing about her death really makes her notable. Her husband, who we do not have an article on, may actually be notable, but I do not see anything that shows that she merits an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:07, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

William S. Carlson
William S. Carlson was president of 4 universities. In one cases he was president actually of the multi-campus State University of New York. He was president of the University of Toledo for 14 years. Somehow our article still says absolutely nothing of substance about what he did as president of any of those 4 universities.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Glen Glenn
How do you know the date of Glen Glenn and his wife’s death? 2603:8001:9500:4646:B0B2:9E0E:8A1E:B7DF (talk) 19:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Margaret Chase
I am really trying to see how we can justify an article on Margaret Chase. We have no secondary sources on her, just a link to her papers and reference to what appears to be a work written by her. Articles need to have secondary sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Ben Cheney
Ben Cheney looks a lot like a memorial article, possibly written with conflict of interest. It is based on a combination of primary sources and hyper local sources. It does not really reflect at all indepdent assessment of him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:00, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Pierre Chevalier (caver)
We are drowining in undersourced articles. Pierre Chevalier (caver) has no secondary sources. The 2 listed sources are both works by Chevalier. Articles are supposed to be based on what other people in published sources said about a person, not on what they said about themself.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Kid Chissell
Kid Chissell is an article based solely on the non-reliable IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Jules Crustin
Jules Crustin is another in a way too long set of undersourced articles we have on stamp experts.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Leonard Davis (musician)
The only source we have on Leonard Davis (musician) is from allmusic. I do not believe that is enough on its own to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Lionel Jack Dumbleton
Lionel Jack Dumbleton is an article without any sources no by him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

George J. Forster
George J. Forster is an article sourced only to a website called "The Political Graveyard". This is not a source that for anyone would show passing GNG. He was mayor of Madison, Wisconsin. This may be enough for notability, but we would need much better sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Jim Garland
Jim Garland is an article with 2 sources. One of those is by him. He may be notable, but we would need more sourcing to desmonstrate this.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Howard Garns
Howard Garns is an article that claims he "gained fame" for inventing what eventually became Sudoku. The problem is he lived in Indianapolis, and the article is sourced only to one Indianapolis paper. If he really is the inventor of Sudoku, and this really at some point gave him "fame" we should be able to show this by more sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

James Goyen
I am struggling how James Goyen passes any notability guidelines. The biggest source on the article seems to be a privately published exhaustive listing of descendants of an earlier person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Suzanna Catharina de Graaff
Suzanna Catharina de Graaff was one of the false claimants to being one of Tsar Nicholas II's children. I am really struggling to figure out how this article is not excluded under fringe guidelines. At best maybe we should redirect it to an article on the general group of false Romanov claimants.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Aurora Greely
I am less than convinced that the sourcing we have on Aurora Greely is enough to justify an article. Also, if we are to keep it we would want to say something of more substance and in more detail about her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Norman Haskell
Norman Haskell is an article lacking in details. What university did he study at? What positions did he hold during his lifetime?John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Eric Hass
Eric Hass was an unsuccessful candidate everywhere he ran, never actually holding elective office. The article has a "bibliography" section, but this looks to be works by him. It appears the only source on the article is the Political Graveyard website. We need more and better sources to show that Hass was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Bernard Johnson (anaesthetist)
Bernard Johnson (anaesthetist) is an article sourced only to publications from the organization he was head of. We need sourcing created by organizations he was not a part of.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Irving Johnson
Irving Johnson looks well sourced until you look deeper. There are only 4 sources, and 3 of those appear to be books he co-wrote. The 4th is a book by someone else. That person happens to have been a sailor of a vessel with Johnson, and the book is that other person's memoir. memoirs are not in general reliable sources. So we really have nothing here. There may be sources that show Johnson is notable but they are not in the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

M. N. Jois
M. N. Jois is an article without sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Winnie Ruth Judd
I am thinking that maybe the article on Winnie Ruth Judd should be repurposed to be an article on the murders she comitted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Albert Karnatz
Albert Karnatz is the most egregious violation of not news guidelines pre-dating 1940 I have seen. I have seen other that old, but they were not as bad. About half the article is a verbatim quote from the Detroit Free Press article covering his violent death in a car crash in a car race. I really do not see anything that adds up to notability here at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:48, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Sayed Ahmad Keir
Sayed Ahmad Keir is clear notable. He was for about 6 years head of foriegn affairs for Sudan. However the article we have on him is super lacking in both sourcing and even more so in content. What did he do while head of foriegn affiars? Did he hold other important or even nor very important government posts? Had he spoken in favor of the end of Anglo-Egyptian outside rule? Did he hold some level of post with the colonial Anglo-Egyptian government? Was he doing something not connected with government until indepedence? After reading the article I should be able to answer these questions at least a little. I still know virtually nothing about this person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * His successor (and predecessor) in the office Muhammad Ahmad Mahgoub we know a little bit more about. Even that article still lacks important details. It also tells us he wrote important published works, but does not name them anywhere which is a bit annoying. Still, what we know about Mahgoub is way, way more than what we know about Keir.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

William Russell Kelly
William Russell Kelly is an article that seems to suggest either that he attended both the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Pittsburgh, or that some people who wrote obituaries about him did not care to differentiate those two universities. Which is it? Can people find actual reliable sources on Kelly that can answer this question? I may have a slightly uneven view since I grew up about 5 miles from where the company he founded had its headquarters building, but I had the impression that Kelly was a very important figure in the temporary staffing business. The sourcing, tone and content of the article does not seem to bear this out, and in fact makes it seem based on what we have there open to question if he merits an article at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Dick Kelsey
Dick Kelsey may well have done things at a level that was notable. However our sourcing does not show this. It is mainly his website and IMDb, which are just not useable. The third source is the website of a place he was key in creating. None of these are the indepdent, reliable 3rd party in-depth sources which need to be the backbone of an article. Wikipedia is not meant to be original research or the retelling of a personal website. We need better sourcing. The issue is not were his contributions important, but, can we find the sourcing in reliable independent sources to show they were important.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Kurt Kreuzinger
Kurt Kreuzinger may have been a notable scientist. Our almost non-existant sourcing and insubstantial article clearly does not in any way indicate that he was in fact notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Welland Lathrop
Welland Lathrop is an article based on a primary source, the subjects own papers, with no secondary sources at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

John Emrys Lloyd
John Emrys Lloyd is a low quality article. I just found a stat source to show he got a bronze medal at the World Fencing Championships. We still lack any sources that provide significant coverage. This collection includes things he collected, but that is a passing mention and not at all something adding towards notability. Here is a picture of Lloyd carring the British flag (along with a bunch of other people) at the opening ceremony of the 1948 Olympics. Here is a picture of Lloyd with one other person. I do not see an explanation of why this website included his photo. I finally found this which on page 20 has a full page write up of him. It looks like he was often called just Emrys Lloyd, so searching for that name might give us more information.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Ernst Miescher
Ernst Miescher has only one listed source. We need more to show notability. Also the listed sourcing cannot be right per se. The listed source if from 1985, the article says Miescher died in 1990, so some other source has to actually have been consulted, unless of course someone just made up the death date. I prefer to assume the former over the later. I like to assume people might be too lazy to post sources, but that they are not just making stuff up.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:25, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Mary Moder
Mary Moder I really do not think we have enough sourcing to show notability. I question whether she passes the multiple significant roles prong. Even more I question applying that rule to voice performers. I think voice performers need more signs of recognition, because since only their voice is used they are not recognized on sight.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Thomas M. Messner


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Roy Nelson (cartoonist)
Roy Nelson (cartoonist) is an article that essentially has no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:23, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Stanisława Nowicka
Stanisława Nowicka is an article based solely on Youtube links. It has not reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Henry Edward Reynolds
Henry Edward Reynolds was a mayor. The only source we have on him is a website called "The Political Graveyard". That website seeks to include every non-active US politician. Being in it is no sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Franklin Paul Rogers
We need more than the one source we have to show that Franklin Paul Rogers was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Lennart Rönnback
There is no actualy claim to notability for Lennart Rönnback. He was considered at one point to be the last member of a certain military force to participate in a specific war, but even that was not true. I just do not see how the sources justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Red Roundtree
The only source we have on Red Roundtree, is the website of the musical group he founded. We need indepdent, reliable, secondary sources, which a person's own musical groups website never will be.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

László Szabó (fencer)
László Szabó (fencer) is an overly promotional article that does not have any sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't know the difference between favorable and promotional, do you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.151.116.47 (talk) 20:55, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Gustaf Wally
Gustaf Wally is an article with no sources that has been tagged as having this problem for over 12 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Ray Wolfe
Ray Wolfe was mayor of Anchorage for about a year in the 1940s. The only source on him we have is the local notice of his death. This does not seem enough to justify an article on a mayor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Karl Kurt Wolter
Karl Kurt Wolter is one of far too many undersourced articles we have on stamp experts.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Cornett Wood
Our current sourcing on Cornett Wood does not seem to be enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I added a few more from Newspapers.com and I suspect there may be better in an entertainment database and Google Books. I will look into it someday. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

1904 births
Category:1904 births currently has 6,291 articles. I am about to review it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I have finished reviewing this category it has 6,193 articles in it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Percy and Florence Arrowsmith
Percy and Florence Arrowsmith is an article that looks to be a legacy of wild west inclusion conditions when Wikipedia first started. There is nothing notable about these people, they got noticed by a stat book on a false premise.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

İskender Chitaşi
İskender Chitaşi is an article sourced only to blogspot, which is not a reliable source.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Eugenia Clinchard
Eugenia Clinchard is an article sourced only to primary source government documents and the non-reliable IMDb. We have no reliable secondary sources at all on her, let alone ones that mention her in sufficient detail to actually create an article built on secondary sources as all Wikipedia articles are to be.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Herbert Cowans
Herbert Cowans is an article with All Music as its only source. We would need more sourcing to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Daniel L. Fapp
Daniel L. Fapp is an article with no reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:American Roman Catholic bishops in South America has been nominated for renaming
Category:American Roman Catholic bishops in South America has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Eldridge Haynes
Eldridge Haynes may be notable, but we need better sourcing to show that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hicks Lokey
Hicks Lokey has 2 sources. One is IMBd, which is not reliable. The other is a dead link, which is not a good thing, but maybe it could be found. However it is called a "genealogical source", so it is highly likely not to be reliable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Augustus Long
Augustus Long may have been a notable businessman. However the one source we have a-is a link that goes no where. 2-it is said to be an obituary. As I said it goes no where. It is this [Obituary I can not A-tell what paper it was in and B- while sometime "obitruary" is used for staff written articles, other times it is used for what elsewhere are called "death notices", which are written by the family and thus not reliable sources. I cannot tell which this is, and without knowing what paper it was published in, I cannot really evaluate if it is a reliable source, and even if it is a reliable source, we need multiple reliable sources to meet GNG.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] (talk) 13:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Loren W. Neubauer
Way too many of our sources on Loren W. Neubauer are written by him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Ricardo Pedro Núñez
Ricardo Pedro Núñez is an unsoured article. He was a runner who ran in a marathon. That is not enough to show him notable. We would need really good sources to show his notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:52, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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William M. Rigdon
William M. Rigdon is someone who we have no secondary sources on. His papers are included in the Truman Library, but this attempts to be comprehensive of papers on anyone ever connected with the government. Not every government funtionary all the way down is notable. We have no secondary sources on Rigdon at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't know if you'll get a chance to see it before it is addressed, but this article was largely a copy-paste from the Truman Library website. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:44, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing some sources on NP.com, but at least some appear to be false positives. Some are him, though. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Arthur Salm
Arthur Salm the only source we have on him is the publication that gave him an award. That does not seem to be an indepdent source. For an award to actually give notability, we need evidence that people other than those who gave it care about it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

1903 births
Category:1903 births currently has 6,345 articles in it. I am about to review its contents.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I am done reviewing this category it has 6,241 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Peter Carstens
I am not seeing how our one source on Peter Carstens is enough to demonstrate notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Look at the de-Wiki article.Ingratis (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:French emigrants to Cuba


A tag has been placed on Category:French emigrants to Cuba indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lebanese emigrants to Cuba


A tag has been placed on Category:Lebanese emigrants to Cuba indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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James McLain
James McLain is a 1920s-era Chicago mobster for whom we have no sources. Not everyone in the 1920s in Chicago who was involved in shotouts like the St. Valentine's Day massacre and in bootlegging is notable. We need actual sources to show that a criminal was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Floyd Matthews AfD
I saw this article that you had nominated for AfD. I spent a few minutes searching in google. I found a several sources that suggest he is notable. I added them in. I humbly and politely request that rather or before nominating articles for deletion you consider improving the articles. Otherwise, you may end up triggering a chain of events that will lead to removing lots of encyclopaedic content. CT55555 (talk) 16:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

John S. Millis
John S. Millis was head of Western Reserve Univeristy/Case Western Reserve University for 22 years, yet we somehow say nothing in the article on anything he did as head of that institution.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:07, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Christo Nizamoff
Christo Nizamoff is an article which uses very non-NPOV compliant language to describe the political situation in what is today Northern Macedonia at the time he left the area in 1921.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Melvin Rader
We have no indepdent sources connected to our article on Melvin Rader.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Ricardo Pedro Núñez
Hello, Johnpacklambert,

I just deleted this article that you justifiably tagged for Proposed Deletion. I just wanted to post a reminder than any time you tag a page for any kind of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/CFD/etc.), please post a notification about it on the talk page of the page creator. The simplest way to do this is by using Twinkle to tag pages for deletion, it's a very easy-to-use editing tool that most page patrollers and many admins use. Once you set up your Twinkle Preferences and check off the "Notify page creator" box, then Twinkle will post these notices on your behalf so you don't have to worry about it. We have some bots that sometimes can take care of this when the editor who tags the page forgets but it's simplest if the editor just posts the notices themselves, using Twinkle, when they tag the page for deletion.

Many thanks for your many contributions on the project. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Also, looking at Phillip Osborne, you need to include "PROD" or "Proposed deletion" in your edit summary when you tag an article or file. This is so if a page is untagged and someone tags it again in the future, the patrolling admin can look at the edit history of the page and see that a page has already been PROD'd before and so is ineligible. Again, if you utilize Twinkle, the program will include an informative edit summary for you so that this step is not omitted. Please consider making use of Twinkle, it has some additional features like maintaining logs for you of articles you've tagged that can also come in handy. Thank you again. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Edouard A. Stackpole
The only source we have on Edouard A. Stackpole is the social security death index. This is a primary source, and in no way supports most of what the article states. So it has hidden sources, but what they are we cannot tell.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:14, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I added a better source and removed SSDI. I also added a book review and an article as an external link. I'm seeing enough hits and publication that suggest he would pass notability. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It is still a very weak article. We really need to say more of substance about what he did. We need a body as well as the instroductory sentence.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:40, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Right. If I could edit full-time, I'd fix up articles like this. Like you, I'm fed up with articles w/o content and proper sourcing, especially if notability is in question. Maybe notability is somewhat answered here, in your talk page, at least. It would be better if articles weren't created until they were real articles, even if quite short. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 22:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Helga Wanglie
I am really struggling to see how the article on Helga Wanglie overcomes the not news rules, as well as maybe one event notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

1902 births
Category:1902 births has 2,253 entries as I am about to start to review it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I have reviewed this category it has 6,115 entires.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:04, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alan Vinegrad


The article Alan Vinegrad has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails the notability guidelines."

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Franz Barta
Franz Barta really looks like an Olympic competitor who lacks any in-depth coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Dona Branca
The sources we currently have on Dona Branca do not seem to be enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1999 establishments in Nicaragua


A tag has been placed on Category:1999 establishments in Nicaragua indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Suzanne Ferrand
Suzanne Ferrand was the creator of some propaganda posters. I do not believe we have enough sourcing to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Ruth Johns Ferguson
Ruth Johns Ferguson is an article that at first glance looks like it has good sourcing. Except the main source says nothing at all about Ferguson and is just used to try to describe the larger social impact of an organization that Ferguson was a run of the mill member of. There is nothing here to suggest Ferguson herself was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Edward E. Goodwyn
Edward E. Goodwyn was born in 1974. Somehow I found him in my review of the 1902 births category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Herman Hofer Hegner
I just redirect Herman Hofer Hegner to Columbia College Chicago. This is a private art school. When he was leader of its predecssor institution he took over a family run kindergarten teacher training business from his mother that had bought a private school of public speaking that was a sole proprietorship. I do not think there is anyway to shoehorn his positions into meeting the academic notability intended scope of notable academic leaders. The only source we had was published by Columbia College Chicago, came in at 4 paragraphs, and was way more about his mom and his successor, and the school his family run than about him. At first I thought I found a book he wrote, but that was by Herman F. Hegner. As it was the article on the college gave a way better perspective to what was going on when Herner was in charge of the private tertiary educational institution, than the barebones bio of him was, so redireecting seemed the best course of action.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Bertha Hofer Hegner
Bertha Hofer Hegner is only a slightly more substantial article than the one on her son. She ran a kindergarten teacher training institution as a private family institution, and near the end of her life it aquited the Columbia College of Expression, which evoklved into Columbia College Chicago. This is not the leadership of a major academic teritary institution that would pass the academic notability prong. The article is only sourced to the website bio of her published by Columbia College Chicago. I am really not seeing anything that would make her notable, but this does not seem to be as much a cut and dried case as with her son. It probably needs to go to AfD.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Stanisław Kądziołka
Stanisław Kądziołka not only did the team Kądziołka was on not medal, they did not even finnish the event.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC) You, John, are nothing more than a saboteur and gangster using your sockpuppet accounts to vote multiple times on AFD discussions and bullying Keep voters who are genuinely trying to improve Wikipedia. I bet even your 14 year old mother knows that you have nothing to show for in life so you spend your whole life trying to delete articles about athletes, scientists, etc that have accomplished a million times more than you could ever dream of. Quite pathetic, really, like even your third grade teacher would think you’re pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.160.57 (talk) 05:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Robert F. Kennon
Robert F. Kennon was governor of Louisiana for 4 years. Our article somehow says nothing about him doing anything as governor in Louisiana. What policies were advanced during his administration? Was he really only a justice before that? There is so much more I am sure could be said.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the article was previously much longer (the military fandom appears to have a copy of it), but it was deleted because of copyvio issues or something. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm, very odd. I have made it a little longer. I think we need more variety of sources. I am sure there are lots of different sources. I will try and find a few more.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * there is this Obituary from the New York Times. . I am sure most Louisian Papers will have his obitary. There should also be articles from his 1948, 1952 and I think 1963 runs for governor. The last one he was elimanted in the first primary, so there might not be as much sourcing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is a Ph.D. disertation on Kennon's time as governor. John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:French expatriates in Ubangi-Shari


A tag has been placed on Category:French expatriates in Ubangi-Shari indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:French expatriates in the Central African Republic


A tag has been placed on Category:French expatriates in the Central African Republic indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Otto L. Nelson Jr.
Otto L. Nelson Jr. is an unsourced article on a soldier.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Don Post
Don Post may or may not be notable, but the sources we have at present on the article clearly do not come to the level of GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)