User talk:Johnymcsmith

"split" titles
I noticed that you've been altering several college football team articles to indicate that schools "split" national titles. A "split' title is when the major polls have different #1 teams in their final polls. If the same team is the BCS champion and #1 in the AP poll, however, they did not "split" the championship with anybody.

It's fine to mention top rankings from minor polls in the appropriate team's article. But editing the article of the consensus national champs to say that they "split" the title is inaccurate. Zeng8r (talk) 00:05, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

It's debatable though. As a sports fan I question the ability of a bunch of old men who likely can't play a lick of football, regardless of if they were great players years ago, to be able to decide who is the "national champion" versus the actual players of the 2 teams in question. The minor polls you are referring to are actually made up polls because I was declaring the teams national champs since no team in the nation showed they could beat them. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/champion As dictionary.com defines a champion as "a person who has defeated all opponents in a competition or series of competitions, so as to hold first place", since the teams that I declared national champions defeated all opponents in all COMPETITIONS/SERIES OF COMPETITIONS they can be defined as national champions regardless of what pollsters with vested interests have to say about it. Therefore I will edit your edits.


 * While I see your point, this is not the place to argue about the BCS. Wikipedia is neither a soapbox nor a discussion forum. You can't justify edits to basic info in long-established articles using only your own personal opinions.


 * You might not have noticed that I was not the only editor to quickly revert your "split title" insertions. Re-insertions of the same text will be reverted again. Please review the wikipolicies linked above before you get yourself into an edit war. Thanks... Zeng8r (talk) 04:20, 21 December 2010 (UTC)