User talk:Jon Pickles

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Speedy deletion nomination of Culinary Campus


A tag has been placed on Culinary Campus, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Promotion
The rules about promotion apply regardless of the intentions of the author - if it looks like promotion, it is treated as promotion. If you consider that the wording in the deleted article was not "flowery or promotional", I would advise you to read WP:NPOV. To me, it looked as if it originated from a PR department or consultant. Peridon (talk) 21:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I used six articles from varying magazines and newspapers as the basis for the Wikipedia article and significantly toned down the "flowery" quality found in the original sources. But, not a professional writer (let alone PR dept employee or consultant), perhaps I lack the skills to derive from these sources something appropriately encyclopedic. Jon Pickles (talk) 21:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Read NPOV and look through several random articles. The idea is to be totally non-enthusiastic (as opposed to being unenthusiastic...). Any PR derived press release or magazine article will contain things like 'state of the art' and worse - the things that PR people believe sell things. You don't need to be a professional writer - just be real. I once listened to a half hour conversation between two marketing people on a train. The only meaningful thing that emerged was that they should 'do lunch' (and presumably continue firing buzz words at each other). I recently deleted an article here about a company that was so full of PR buzz that I never found out what they actually did! (A total PR failure there...) Imagine you are preparing a report for a court hearing. Also, read WP:CORP or WP:GROUP depending on which fits best. Find sources in reliable independent places WP:RS. Then try again at User:Jon Pickles/DRAFT and discuss it with User:Tokyogirl79, User:MelanieN or User:Cindamuse who are all good at rescue work - and seem to enjoy it too. Or talk to them in the finding things stage. Most regular editors are willing to give opinions, and those three aren't the only ones good at rescue and rebuild. I've known Cindy and Melanie here for some time, and have just added Tokyogirl because of some work of here I've seen. Do some reading, and see what you think then. Good luck. Peridon (talk) 22:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the great tips, Peridon and for taking the time to give me some pointers. I appreciate it. I will regroup a bit and then take another go at contributing to Wikipedia again in the not-too-distant future. Jon Pickles (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2013 (UTC)