User talk:Jonaswkarlsson

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June 2020

 * Please stop fucking around or I will have to block you; thanks. Drmies (talk) 01:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm just trying to update my wiki?
 * a. It's not "your" Wiki. You have a website? That's yours. This is not: this is an encyclopedic article about a man who makes music. b. I should probably block you per WP:USERNAME; you should look at that and find out how to verify to the WMF that you are you, so to speak. c. The worse thing you can do is do something, get reverted and warned, and then just do it again. d. You simply blanked/removed content without explanation. Drmies (talk) 01:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, gotcha. I've never done this before and I thought this was how it worked. I'm sorry. Won't try to do it again, to be honest I didn't even know that I got warned. I'll look into this and try to get the encyclopedic article about a man who makes music up to date and to be correct.
 * OK--listen, first things first. I do not want to block you because of this username. If you are really you, let's work with that. There's another hoop to jump through, but it's not a big deal (it's the old "conflict of interest") and we'll worry about that when you got the username thing figured out--unless you want to change it. If you want to change it, we can do that too, but you'll still have a the conflict of interest, of course. My interest here is to get the best article on Jonas W. Karlsson we can get. Drmies (talk) 01:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Click here: WP:REALNAME. Look at the last paragraph, and consider sending that email--I don't think they'll ask you for a DNA sample and all that. If you want to keep the name (and you can, if you like), this is step one. Let me know how it goes, OK? You can ping me by typing "hey, listen to what happened", or something like that--but you have to sign your name, with four tildes: Drmies (talk) 01:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC) . BTW sorry, I prefer not to email (yet), for privacy reasons. But you can email me and I'll respond here, unless it gets too private. OK? Good luck. Drmies (talk) 01:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * e. I don't understand what you were trying to do anyway. By removing all this shit you're essentially saying "Jonas W. Karlsson was never in a band that made an album called Hääväki saapuu. So you're not "updating"--you're removing, and you didn't give any reason. So, I think we need a better explanation of what you are trying to accomplish, and a comment on this username thing. BTW I scrapped a bunch from this article, but I gave an explanation with regards to Wikipedia policy. So, there are things we can do here, but some of them may take a bit of time, and others perhaps may not be done completely to your liking--in part because this is not "your" website. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the explanation. I'll look into that/change my username. Could you explain one more thing. How do we get the information on "Jonas W. Karlsson" page correct and up to date?
 * The simple answer is by finding the relevant references and sticking it in there. More below. Drmies (talk) 02:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Username
OK, again, see WP:REALNAME. We can't have people pretending to be someone when they are not. Email them, and tell them what's up. I don't know what kinds of questions they'll ask--but it shouldn't surprise you that we get a lot of impersonation and vandalism. Drmies (talk) 01:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

That career
The most important thing for this article is that we have reliable, secondary sources. So that Billboard article, that's one. Discogs or whatever, that's not. See WP:SECONDARY--we're talking independent publications, really, and that is what we need to flesh out this article. You keep a file folder full of links and newspaper clippings, like in the old days? That's the ticket--not press releases, not pages on record company websites. You want a nice article full of correct things and facts; that can be done, if we have the sources. This is not a thing we can do in one night, but it can be done. No worries. Drmies (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, gotcha! For record/song releases, what would we need? for example, there was a disco section, there was songs in there but no secondary sources?
 * Yes, and that's why I scrapped all of that. Listen, there are a few options here (after you handle the username and the conflict of interest). One, we get a shitty article which looks like a list of stuff, and it might have every thing you've ever done. Two, we write a decent or even good article, and it may not have every single or remix, but it might have well-written and well-verified content. I can help you with the latter--if you want the former, I'll just sign off and leave it be. Look, I just wrote up Sofi de la Torre. This is good for you also: there's a blue link in your article now, and (as you know) that fame helps your fame. It's short, but it's based on solid sourcing: AllMusic and that Billboard article. That is the way forward. And who knows, if there's enough secondary sourcing available, and we can write decent articles, we might get places. For you (again, I'm assuming you are you), this is more difficult since, as you know, you are personally not as interesting as the artist. You might even be cuter than her or whatever, it doesn't matter--I already know more about her and where she's from than about you, because that's how the music business works. In other words, your biography is harder to write, and that's why I need you to go through your folders and find the old articles where people wrote about you and not just about that song or whatever. Maybe your mother kept those archives... That's the material we need. (BTW, I liked "Vermillion"--it was nice and sort of out there; the rest of what YouTube gave me was a bit poppy, sorry.) But you go deal with that username. Ping me in a day or two and we'll get on it. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , just so you know, identity has been confirmed. Sam-2727 (talk) 19:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)