User talk:Jonathanlynn

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Help me!
Please help me with...

Jonathanlynn (talk) 12:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Jonathan, I am afraid I cannot help you, but I wonder if you might help me. I see you contributed to the Gorecki page. I tried to add under TV and Movies section that Gorecki's work "Beatus Vir" is featured in the 1996 Bertrand Blier film "Mon Homme ("My Man").   https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117073/soundtrack/
 * I have never used any coding before and failed miserably to get it to work as an addition. Thank you if you have three minutes. My 30 minutes failed.
 * I hope you got your other questions/requests answered satisfactorily. Mary Jane Gore, USA, Virginia 2601:5C2:103:7B20:4061:E890:1C49:1019 (talk) 15:55, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mary Jane. I added the material you wanted. It's much easier if you use "Edit" rather than "Edit Source" -- then you don't need to code, and it's quite intuitive (e.g. to add a link you click on the little linked chain at the top.)Jonathanlynn (talk) 08:20, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I want to use the same reference in several places. Is there a way of giving it the same footnote number instead of a new one each time?

Jonathanlynn (talk) 12:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I made some edits to the article on Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to update some orphaned references, following changes to the IPCC's website.

I see in history that a few hours after my edits something called AnomieBot made some further changes.

Is this routine? Or do I need to do anything. Are the AnomieBot edits a sign that I got something wrong with mine?

Jonathanlynn (talk) 12:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome Jonathanlynn! There are many bots that take care of various tasks on Wikipedia. In this case, AnomieBot was fixing named references that were used but no longer defined. In your edit, you changed to  . Reference names are case-sensitive, which means that when the "principles" reference was reused later on in the page it could no longer be found. This generated a red warning message in the reflist that caused the bot to attempt to fix the reference. You can find more information at the help page for the error. In the future, you should avoid changing reference names unless you change them everywhere they are used in the article. If you have any other questions, feel free to add help me again, ask at the Teahouse, or in the live help channel. Happy editing! --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 14:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Help me!
Sorry I must be missing something but I can't find the answer to the main question -- 2. What is the answer to the original question: I want to use the same reference in several places. Is there a way of giving it the same footnote number instead of a new one each time?

Jonathanlynn (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Please help me with...

Hi asked a question on my talk page and a message (like a yellow sticky) appeared next to it saying it had been answered. But I couldn't see the reply. So two questions. 1. Where do I find the reply to my questions 2. What is the answer to the original question: I want to use the same reference in several places. Is there a way of giving it the same footnote number instead of a new one each time?

Jonathanlynn (talk) 11:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The answer is directly below your last question. Praxidicae (talk) 11:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

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Some possible ways of contributing.
Hello Jonathan! I regret that I have only just today seen your comment from last April that you work for the IPCC. While those with possible conflicts of interest (such as employment) are cautioned against directly editing related topics, yet there are many ways you can be of assistance. In particular, I have been working out how to identify and cite various IPCC reports (see WP:IPCC citation), and wonder if you would be interested in advising me on several points. &diams; J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:59, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

For future reference, here's a wikilink to the Creative Commons license we use: WP:CC BY-SA. &diams; J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi J. Johnson (JJ), sorry for the very slow reply. I'm emerging from retirement from the IPCC to resume contributing to Wikipedia and have just seen the message. Would be happy to try and advise you on the citation points you are interested in, if that is still topical. Please email if you prefer: Special:EmailUser/jonathanlynn (My old IPCC email at the WMO is no longer in use.)
 * the style guide for the sixth assessment report is available here (looks correct like this?): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPCC_citation/AR6 EMsmile (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Thanks I just put double square brackets around Stephan von Breuning. How do I make sure they go to the right page?Jonathanlynn (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Still blocked from editing?
Hi could you please take another look at this account? The user Jonathanlynn has told me that he's still or again blocked from editing. He wanted to reply here but told me he's blocked again. EMsmile (talk) 14:23, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't know what is happening, it might be easier to put a request in OTRS per the description at the top of: IP block exemption -- there might be something else going on that I don't see, Sadads (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @EMsmile @Jonathanlynn FYI, Sadads (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I received the following via e-mail from user:Jonathanlynn: "I've followed the suggestion and made an appeal against blocking. I got an acknowledgement with a appeal key. When I clicked on more information there was an error message saying my account was not found. Then I hit back and just got an error message and the notification page disappeared. Tried to reply to you first on the usertalk: Jonathanlynn page but that too is blocked for editing. Who can help?" Perhaps ? EMsmile (talk) 15:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Jonathanlynn, have you tried this process?: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_IP_block_exemptions/en . You might have been swept up in a multi-wiki IP block. EMsmile (talk) 11:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like I can edit in Firefox, but not in Safari. Jonathanlynn (talk) 21:19, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * And now I can edit in Safari too. Thanks to whoever sorted this out! Jonathanlynn (talk) 08:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, I'll add that. (I was paraphrasing text that was previously an excerpt.) Jonathanlynn (talk) 16:22, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Linking and readability
Hi there. I'm very happy to see such focus on readability. Am I guessing you are using readability tools? The sentences you produce are frequently quite stocatto / all of very similar length. I'm not sure if that really increases readability.

Another thing to avoid is repetition of link words, which can be distracting and thereby impede readability. For instance, here you break down an overly long sentence into There are many effects of climate change on oceans. These include an increase in ocean temperatures, a rise in sea level from ocean warming and ice sheet melting. They include increased ocean stratification. They also include changes to ocean currents including a weakening of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation. The word include is used four times; surely we can do this more elegantly. One could rephrase it in normal prose: "Sea levels are rising from ocean warming and ice sheet melting."

Lastly, in the same diff, I think you're sometimes unlinking a bit too much. WP:OVERLINKing and WP:UNDERLINK are the relevant guidelines. The guidelines haven't been updated since the links have become more pale (lower readability) since the new skin was implemented, but are still the primary thing to rely on. You removed a link to critically endangered. It's really important imo to keep such links to jargon if we want to make sure people understand what they read.

Again, thanks for all the hard work. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Femke, thanks for this kind words. Yes when I started focusing on readability at the end of last year I was using various readability tools. I learnt fairly quickly that passives, compound sentences and long lists result in low readability scores so now I just look out for those now and fix where I can. I still use the readability add-on in the Wikipedia tools drop-down menu that colour-codes text as it points to sentences that need more or less work. I also run the text I work on through the readability text on Web FX (https://www.webfx.com/tools/read-able/) before and after to make sure my edits do lead to an improvement. I agree changing these constructions can make the text staccato and inelegant. But my working assumption is that those are considerations for people with graduate or postgraduate education like you and me. My target readership is high-school students or non-native speakers. I'm trusting that the experts from the US army etc who developed Flesch Kincaid etc knew what they were doing for people with those different education levels. But I do take your point that the breaking up of lists could be done with more variety and will think about how to do that.
 * I did look at the OVERLINKING and UNDERLINK pages (not very user-friendly...) after studying this tutorial in the new year: User:Tony1/Build your linking skills. A lot of people do just link everything -- every geographical name (Africa, Amsterdam), every human category (women), every social topic (poverty) and I think that gets win in the way. I tend to leave links to any technical terms that people would not necessarily understand. I'll lower the bar on that to leave more in. Jonathanlynn (talk) 15:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting conversation, I'll follow with interest. I can see that there is a trade-off between lots of short sentences in succession (resulting in high reading ease scores, and easier to understand for non native speakers) versus varying the sentence length (resulting in lower reading ease scores but perhaps making it more enjoyable to read, especially for native speakers). - A while ago, I put a little bit of guidance about readability improvements together on the talk page of our project here. I think it could now do with a bit of updating and expanding. And perhaps link to any other Wikipedia page or project page that gives good guidance on this (?). EMsmile (talk) 19:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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