User talk:Jonathunder/archive21

Well done so you made the call
Bully for you thank you, you made the call on. I have to make hundreds and hundreds of mini decisions like that as I trog through the infamous Neelix list and I am the only one doing it, actually I would have listed it at RfD rather than boldly retargeting it but that is fine by me. If we have any chance of getting through them we have to use our initiative and sometimes that means we make the wrong call. I think on this one actually you made the right call although you have not rcatted it as as I would have done. Now can you please leave me alone to get on with them. Si Trew (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for S/2015 (136472) 1
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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Heitkamp Gun Control Section
Thank you for editing the Heitkamp gun control section, but since the portion you removed is well documented fact, there is no NPOV problem. So I reverted to the correct record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichelMT (talk • contribs) 19:52, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

A block might be in order
Thank you for helping contain persistent vandalism to Heidi Heitkamp. The page has been continuously vandalised a grand total of 5 times today, through 2 IPs and one registered user. It might be time to protect the page and block this vandal. Best, FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  22:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * MichelMT's edits are not vandalism and he did post on the article talk page. You can respond there. Jonathunder (talk) 23:56, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Have you gone through the text? It is clearly non-neutral and synth, per your own revert earlier, not to mention coatrack. FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  01:15, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It's all those things, but it's not vandalism. A vandal is trying to make Wikipedia worse. This is not that. The difference is important. Jonathunder (talk) 02:23, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

sanctions
Regarding the notification you left on my talk page, you invited me to contact you if I have questions, and I do. In your message, sanctions are described as being imposed for "edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to" and 3 criteria:
 * 1) the purpose of Wikipedia
 * 2) our standards of behavior
 * 3) relevant policies

Could you clarify further which of these you are warning me about? Would it be possible for you to use Special:Diff to tell me what edits you are upset about? Your reply at Talk:People_v._Turner levied accusations of OR/SYNTH but I do not understand the merits of those accusations in relation to my edits. I have included no OR here, I only include statements I find in reliable sources. I also do not include synthesis. I understand these concepts and how they are not a good basis for introducing statements. Ranze (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The notice is a required template to let editors know about the possibility of discretionary sanctions being applied. It does not imply anything more than it says. However, I would strongly encourage you to read the entire WP:OR policy page before editing further on BLP articles and talk pages. Jonathunder (talk) 18:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Revdel request
Hi there. Thanks for blocking Alton Sterling for that nasty vandalism. Can you do me a favor and revdel these edits? and ? I don't want them visible even though they were generated to report that editor. Thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 17:52, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism
I had an edit conflict trying to leave a warning on the talk page of Desouzavalor--I assumed when I saw your warning we were responding to the same edits, but it turns out Desouzavalor has been busy in the past few minutes.

See theis diff: and these from an IP account minutes earlier, making the same changes:  and.

I left a milder warning on the IP account, which was deleted, as was your warning on the registered account. Thanks for any help you can provide. Cheers! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Update--The registered account is already blocked, but apparently not the IP account. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk)

Lodge Zare Zapadu and NRHP infoboxes etc
Hi, thanks for contributing the photo and starting the article on Lodge Zare Zapadu No. 44. I happened to notice it because some new link brought me to the Zapadni Ceska Bratrska Jednota article. It is 100% fine to create the infobox in the article as you did (perhaps by editing an infobox copy-pasted from another article?), but I wonder if you know about the NRHP infobox generator available at http://elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php? It can make it easier to get started; it includes some categories and stuff that add to what you put in already. Probably you know about it and that it is covered at wp:NRHPhelp. Anyhow, I added your pic to the ZCBJ article and also I am adding the NRHP nomination document reference to your article. I added a bit to its content too. Keep up the good work! cheers, -- do ncr  am  21:22, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Reads Landing School
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 * Jonathunder, it's been over two weeks since this was posted, and you still have not provided a QPQ review. Please do so soon. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Jonathunder, this is you final talk page notification that a QPQ review is required for this nomination. If you have not posted to the nomination page within seven days, I will, with regret, mark the nomination as unsuccessful. Please don't make that necessary. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:43, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

I completed this review. Jonathunder (talk) 16:53, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Jonathunder, you need to post that fact to the nomination page. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you for signing up!
Hi Jonathunder!

Thank you for signing up to help us classify pages! It's really appreciated - I know how busy admins are. We're working on getting a set of pages together and will get back to you as soon as we're ready.

Thanks a lot! Bluma.Gelley (talk) 01:30, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Terrace Theatre (Minnesota)
Hi Jonathunder, as I've said, I'm a new user and trying to learn my way around. Just hoping to do my best to represent the Terrace Theatre accurately. I hope to do more edits but I seem to be locked out at the moment. I can't tell if my most recent edits went through or not. I just wrote to Fuhggetaboutit and said I seem to be locked out but I will check back in later. Thank you. KIRTIS (talk) 17:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Reads Landing School
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Kubbestol listed at Redirects for discussion
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Please evaluate my draft for Joel McDonald
Here it is. List of references now increased to 42, which is much more impressive than the sloppy 3 from the deleted copy.

Joel's page has been deleted two times in the past, but that is only because he wasn't especially notable at the time. A couple of years later, he has garnered a lot of main roles as a voice actor as well as rising up the ladder in terms of being a more competent ADR director than when he first started. Apparently, Joel is now notable enough to even prompt Anime News Network to mention him welcoming his newborn kid.
 * Things may well have changed since the AfD in 2011 and you certainly have a large number of references, but I'm not sure about the quality of those. Let me look into it a bit. Jonathunder (talk) 01:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Please let me know if there's anything I could change to make it even better. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You have many trivial mentions in low-quality sources. (Too many: discard the Twitter, for example.) Can you find better sources, like an in-depth profile or things that aren't fan news? Jonathunder (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


 * One of the sources is from Twitter because it is reliable information from Joel's coworker, who is working on the same show (Yuri on Ice). Spreading misinformation is unprofessional for professional voice actors. Which of the sources are fan news again, if you don't mind pinpointing? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:47, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see Identifying reliable sources. Jonathunder (talk) 00:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I've looked at my sources again. At least 70% of the sources are guaranteed to be reliable, since they're from Crunchyroll and ANN's news section, which are noted to be trustworthy by members of the Anime Project. The remaining 30% are reliable as well, since it's a reviewer's job to correctly identify the cast and crew members of whatever show they're reviewing. Con profiles on voice actors are absolutely sure on the info they post, since they want con goers to know of the voice actor's work. In any case, I believe that the page is now ready for publication. The only problem is, there is currently a restriction that prevents anyone but an admin from moving Joel's article into the mainspace, so I'd like to request that restriction be lifted. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The twitter sources aren't reliable at all, and the fancon ones are no good either, they are essentially just press releases, they are both primary sources. --Adam in MO Talk 04:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think you've clearly looked into what is actually entailed in those Twitter sources. You just marked them off as unreliable just because they're from Twitter. However, you did not consider that one of the tweets is from Joel's coworker, Apphia Yu, and the other is from Funimation's official Twitter account. You're talking about reliability here, yes? Those con websites could provide useful. All the sources I've listed are reliable and verified. Don't you think Joel would correct them if they spread misinformation? In any case, I do believe that the article is now ready to be reincluded in the mainspace; I just need an admin's approval first due to reasons listed above. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 04:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Self-published sources like ] can only be used as sources of statements about the author, not a third party. So what if that guy works with him, we only used reliable third-party sources. [[wp:Blp|Blp articles must have the strictest of sources for legal reasons. The weakness of the sourcing in that article will surly cause it to fail to be put in the main space.--Adam in MO Talk 09:10, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I get the feeling that you don't know which sources are usually used in a bio regarding anime voice actors. If you're seriously doubting the verifiability of Joel's coworker, then I'll throw in something the ADR director of Yuri on Ice, Sonny Strait posted on Facebook. And if you still doubt that, then I'm sorry, you're just being paranoid. You also seem to be disregarding of the fact that if pro voice actors and directors spread false info on the web, that will damage their credibility and rep. I'm a contributor, alright? The last thing I want to do is spread false info on our encyclopedia. In any case, additional citation added. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 09:29, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * It doesn't really matter how much faith you have in those statements, social media is not considered a reliable source here. I'm not paranoid (which doesn't seem to apply here anyway), I just don't have the naiveté it requires to believe performers at their word on social media. Are you reading the links to the social media policy and reliable sourcing? This really isn't a matter of discussion. Twitter and Facebook are not reliable sources. I'll not be responding to this thread unless pinged. If you don't understand why self published sources are unreliable there isn't anything I can say to change your mind. Good day, friend. --Adam in MO Talk 09:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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Meetup invitation
Thanks for the invite for Dec. 17th at MIA. I wasn't able to make it, but let me know for future events! Bowmanjj (talk) 18:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!
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DYK nomination of Liebenberg and Kaplan
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 * Dear Jonathunder, thanks for making the nomination. I am happy to receive a positive response, but some work needs to be done. I will address these issues within the next day or two. 2601:442:C100:226E:8DFB:29DA:1CA2:123D (talk) 19:11, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Created by KIRTIS (talk). Nominated by Jonathunder (talk) at 15:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC).

Symbol delete vote.svg Some issues: There's no source cited for Liebenberg's birthdate. Kaplan's birthdate is cited to Findagrave, but that's an inappropriate source per WP:UGC. The copyvio detector indicates a 63.2% violation with a number of word for word phrases and sentences taken from this source.

Once these issues are addressed this will pass DYK. The hook is cited to an offline, but reliable source. It's a shame that the content of the hook is only discussed in a single sentence in this otherwise thorough article, but that's not a reason to keep it off DYK. It's long enough, new enough, and an excellent discussion of the topic with well-selected and placed images. Gamaliel (talk) 18:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * KIRTIS (talk) 19:16, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Jonathunder!


Happy New Year! Jonathunder, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. --  Dane talk  02:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


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Precious anniversary
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Four years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Liebenberg and Kaplan
 Schwede 66  12:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Mia edit-a-thon
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Moth
Yeah, gotcha - I had just realized that and was self-reverting, but you were faster :p Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs)