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Non-league players up for deletion
Hi, I totally agree with what you said about those articles that are up for deletion. I myself have put a lot of work into those York City articles.. some wikipedians are just so ignorant. -- Mattythewhite 18:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. I don't understand what the big deal is? I mean I have created most of, if not all of the Tamworth players and put alot of time and effort into it, and it pisses me off to thing that some ignorant dickhead can just come along and delete it off because said player has not played 200 times for Manchester United! no chance! I'm not taking it lying down. Thanks again. -- Jonesy702 18:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks chaps, much appreciated. HornetMike 00:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not in the mood for your pointless sarcasm. -- Mattythewhite 15:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I think HornetMike fancies me as he's checking up on me. I'm not that kind of bloke, but thanks for the interest. I'm quite flattered. -- Jonesy702 16:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately not. I came on here to clarify what I meant when talking about user pages without bogging down the AFd. Still, you wouldn't want to go out with me - I'm an ignorant dickhead! HornetMike 23:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You know what, I couldn't have put it better myself, have a gold sticky star! I wouldn't go out with you as I'm not gay as well, but each to their own I suppose. GAY PRIDE! -- Jonesy702 00:45, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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AfD Nomination: Lee Moore (footballer)
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 * Your comments at the AFD were a little overboard. You may want to read WP:CIVIL and WP:CALM and WP:SPIDER. I signed the comments for you. You should always sign your comments on talk pages using ~ . Lastly, the deletion of an article that you've worked hard on is not a reflection of you or your editing ability. It's just Wikipedia saying "this isn't notable for an encyclopedia". This guy looks like he might become quite famous. So if he does by doing something famous (like scoring the winning FIFA goal!), you can recreate the article at that time. Thank you, I hope you have a good day. -- MECU ≈ talk 20:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

GO AND TALK TO SOMEONE WHO REALLY GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU AND YOUR PATHETIC THOUGHTS ABOUT FUCKING WORLD CUP GOALS. DON'T SEND ME ANY MESSAGES ON MY TALK PAGE, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOME NERD! HERE'S MY SIGNATURE AS WELL Jonesy702UP MIDDLE FUCKING FINGERJonesy702. YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY NOW! 21:23, 22 January 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonesy702 (talk • contribs)

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Oh I'm ever so sorry Navou my sweetheart, I never meant to make you cry, babycakes. It will never happen again, you mean too much to me my love.


 * Everyone has their own personal style. Whether or not your style is abrasive to me is of no consequence.  I do not cry.  Scanning your last 1k edits or so, you have some good contributions.  I just wanted to point this out.  I do not want you to feel disenfranchised regarding this encyclopedia.  Everyones notable contributions are important.  Please just keep my above statement in mind.  I appreciate your time and attention to this matter.  Regards,  Navou   banter  00:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * That is factual incorrect Navou, you do cry, everyone does. I'm not calling you a big baby, even if you are. You stay safe and say no to drugs ;-) Jonesy702 19:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC) There's your signature there bab!

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Spamming
This topic has already been posted on this talk page. It's not necessary to be posted twice. It was posted by Michaelas10 originally. Please remove it as there is no place for it on Wikipedia... like all the Tamworth player profiles I made. Jonesy702 19:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Ludovic Quistin
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I am still editing this page, please be patient. I know you have nothing better to do than delete my work off, but let me finish first. Jonesy702 19:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, I noticed that you removed the db tag from the page. Please don't do that on pages youve created - you can place a hangon tag instead. Also, the consensus after discussions at WikiProject Football is that players who have not played in full professional leagues (in England's case, League 2 and above) are not notable enough to have Wikipedia articles. Ytny (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Ludovic Quistin has played in an English full professional league, as he played for Wycombe Wanderers. As this is the case, please remove your deletion tags off. Thanks Jonesy702 20:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the article, he only had a trial and never made the first team. I'm looking around but I can't find any evidence that Quistin has played any official matches above the Conference level. And again, don't remove the deletion tag since you are the article creator. Thanks. --Ytny (talk) 21:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * lol, you really don't have anything better to do? do you sleep at your desk with you computer on? when was the last time you saw daylight? have you ever been out on the lash with your mates? do you even have mates? not friends of world of warcraft in Australia, but real friends? just curious... Jonesy702 21:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Ytny (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you please explain to me how that was an personal attack? I was simply asking you a question, whether you decided to reply was up to you, but to put another one of your silly tags was just stupid wasn't it my friend. I love you. Jonesy702 21:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're either being incredibly obtuse or really thick, and I don't think you're stupid so I have to assume you were clearly implying that I don't have a life. That' a personal attack, yes? It's obvious you're taking the deletion personally. I understand no one like being told their contributions aren't important enough, but articles get deleted all the time. There are a lot of thing that don't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria, and the articles you wrote just happened to be a few out of billion. Your problem is with the policy, not me, so go have your say at WikiProject Football.
 * And to answer your questions, I was in fact "out on the lash" with my mate, a little too much so, which explains why I'm inside nursing a hangover. Thank you for your interest in my personal life. Ytny (talk) 21:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, calling me really thick is just plain rude. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Jonesy702 21:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Btw: you can't have found it offence if you are replying to the "out on the lash" comment with logic response, seriously though you really have real friends?

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 * lol, you don't give up do you. why don't you check all my contributions and delete them all off? or are you just working your way through them? Jonesy702 22:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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 * you know what, you win, i give up. delete everything off, all my hard work, time and effort. there's no point in me even trying to stop you Revd Simon Springett, because lets face it, i'm fucked. i've been had with my trousers down, well done. Jonesy702 22:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Jordan Stewart
Nice work on the Jordan Stewart picture! It's a bloody nightmare trying to get football images, so it's always nice to see one pop up. HornetMike 23:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. It's nice my pictures stay on here... more than I can say for my Tamworth FC player profiles.Jonesy702 23:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Curtis Ujah

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Thanks for your edits to Curtis Ujah. However, I noticed that firstly, you removed the persondata template. I'm not sure why you decided to do that... in any case, I've readded it. Also, you replaced the currently used Infobox Football biography with the deprecated Football player infobox, and used non-standard formatting. Again, I'm not sure why you've done that, so I've cleaned things up. Happy to discuss if you'd like some tips for future edits on football player biographies. robwingfield «T•C» 00:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I see you've reverted my changes. Again, you've used non-standard formatting.  Dates should be separated with the – formatting.  See WP:DASH.  No consensus has been reached on adding flag templates to or the use of height in Infobox Football biography, so please don't add them until consensus has been reached.  Join the debate if you'd like.  And please discuss before reverting my changes again.  robwingfield «T•C» 00:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ok fair enough about the dash, but with regards to the flags, leave them on there. there nothing to say they can't be on the profile so stop removing them. Jonesy702 01:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * whats with the spaces? leave it out! Jonesy702 01:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll wait until consensus is reached before removing the flag. However, the height formatting is defined here: WP:MOSNUM.  height is only intended as an aid to imperial→metric conversion, not as a template to be left inline.  And the spaces are as per the template.  Check Template talk:Infobox Football biography.  robwingfield «T•C» 09:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, about the height issue, fair enough, it really is a silly argument, but i have bigger things to worry about in life.

Doesn't look like you have read the template page properly, Template_talk:Infobox_Football_biography, the example show it's should be done this way.Jonesy702 19:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Why do you keep removing this picture? it's being used for what it's meant for? Jonesy702 19:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let's start the discussion again. Yes, I am compromising. I'm allowing you to keep the blank image in place, even though it serves no purpose. It's not to my liking, but there's no policy against it, so I'm happy to let it go as it seems to mean so much to you. However, you seem unwilling to admit that there is a developing policy against using flags in any other place than for nationality, and that includes not using them for places of birth.

As a side note, I've mentioned to you before that it's very bad practise to revert edits without discussing. I'm trying to discuss with you here to gain consensus, but you seem unwilling to enter into discussion. Wikipedia is a community. Please try to treat it as such. robwingfield «T•C» 23:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
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