User talk:Jonjonjohny

In case you want something to do
You could establish the "reception" section to the Dead Throne album by The Devil Wears Prada, you seem to find great sources for that sort of thing and write them better than I do. I've worked on that page recently in my free time, I'll be busy writing up Until I Feel Nothing soon. • GunMetal Angel  05:16, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You know what I might just do that, that album with Zombie EP changed my opinion on them and I find it weird that it got all these sectoions added but then dumped by the time it got released. I'll see what i can add. Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:52, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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User:Frammis4242
Hi. I noticed that you've recently reverted some of 's edits. I've started a discussion about his behavior at WP:ANI#User:Frammis4242. You are welcome to comment there if you wish. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Bury Tomorrow members
It was no test at all, Wikipedia is meant to display TRUE facts, and Bury Tomorrow have been a band since 1999. I remember the shows, have the CD, and frankly it's quite insulting to ex members to not be given recognition. The second CD they released even shows Andy on vocals and Dani on synth. I don't quite know what you're aiming to achieve by lying to the public and discounting ex members when people know the real story behind BT and how they got to where they are today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killingwithasmileuk (talk • contribs) 01:25, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I am sorry, it isn't as if I'm trying to 'lie to the public' or not credit other members. Fact is when I created and researched the article I was sure there was membership change but couldn't find a source. My main reason for undoing your edits is per the policy Verifiability (See also Verifiability, not truth) . The fact is without sources to imply this band is an extra 7 years and that none of the current members strictly were there when Bury Tomorrow started it's quite a hard accusation to digest. However I'm not reverting your edits because I don't believe you, I'm doing it because it's unsourced and poorly researched. Another example of this kind of thing is on the Fall Out Boy talk page with the massive discussion about Brandom Hamm, a supposed member but who was supported by a dubious source. Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Unsourced? I don't see how you can call a fucking EP, with music I shall link below, featuring those members, nor the fact that their drummer has been in the band for that many years 'unsourced'. There are members from across the bands history who have given this information. You will find that you either put the truth on wikipedia, or 100's of others will do it for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killingwithasmileuk (talk • contribs)


 * Can I please ask you to be civil during discussions. And as I have said about "the truth", Wikipedia is based upon research and reliable sources which supports the band history. All the former members involvement in the band has not been verified by any reliable sources, including both the band and journalists, making the grounds of their membership very contentious. And as for that image of a early Bury Tomorrow (BT), it is just five kids out in the cold looking at a camera, not resembling the modern BT and has never been confirmed as members. And finally please sign you comments in the relevant discussions with the four tildes (~) Jonjonjohny (talk) 13:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the angry reply, an ex member was annoyed on my account. Evidence for 'Tobias Young' in the band can be seen in the casting shapes video. The picture of the lineup from 2002/03 also features Adam, the only member still in the band from the original lineup. The back cover of 'the sleep of the innocents' will also confirm Andy on vocals, and Dani on synth - and i believe Chris on guitar. Several members of bands from Portsmouth and Southampton can confirm all of the information RE: Bury Tomorrow's history, ex members of 'The Saddest Day', 'Ghosts On Pegasus Bridge', 'Tight Like Strings', 'To Every End', 'Don't Cross The Dead' and more, I shall get them to pass this info on to you. This is a picture of Andy on vocals in 2007 at his last show, just before Dani properly took over fully - http://www.flickr.com/photos/katie_anderson/358567842 Will pass on more info as I find the sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killingwithasmileuk (talk • contribs) 19:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * also have found a couple of the old tracks uploaded on soundcloud - http://soundcloud.com/seasickpromotionsuk/bury-tomorrow-the-champion http://soundcloud.com/seasickpromotionsuk/bury-tomorrow-when-angels-meet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killingwithasmileuk (talk • contribs) 19:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping to stitch information together in a way for us to use on the article, I hope you chose to stay and comfortably edit Wikipedia, there is still more needed, If you could get the band to get the information about their old members then that would be great. And just as a side note: please sign you comments with the four tildes (~) and also make sure you posts your comments in the right discussion by clicking [edit] next to the "Bury Tomorrow members" title. Jonjonjohny (talk) 23:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

La Dispute
Haha I saw your edit on the La Dispute page. I can't believe I didn't notice that terrible piece of writing on the page before. Regards. Ozhu (talk) 21:46, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Those IPs can be very sneaky when they do multiple vandalising edits, you don't even notice what they've put into the article. Jonjonjohny (talk) 23:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Awesomeness

 * Thankyou for my first Barnstar! This is awesome. Bring Me The Horizon are phenomenal aren't they? Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for Creating Portsmouth Page
Hi there,

Thanks for creating the Portsmouth CC page - if you have time the 2015 page hasn't been updated with figures yet for those elections (have gone through and added maps to 2018/16/15 and added 18 results but haven't had time to edit in the results from 2015) - thanks again 158.180.192.10 (talk) 09:39, 23 April 2019 (UTC)


 * No worries. And sure thing ill look into it, its not everyday I get a request. Jonjonjohny (talk) 05:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

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Portsmouth City Council elections 2019 page
I have tried to explain through editing that there is incorrect information being posted on this page. You keep saying the information is ‘sourced’ but if you actually read the BBC article (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44129218) nowhere does it say that there was a confidence and supply agreement between Labour and the Lib Dems- it doesn’t say that because it’s not true. The labour councillors merely voted for Gerald Vernon-Jackson as council leader with no other agreements/deals etc being made. So therefore there was no ‘falling out’ over victory energy as there was no deal in the first place. Very bad form to be making Wikipedia sound like a tabloid article which is why I have been attempting to change it. This “background” info is not necessary anyway as previous years’ pages don’t have it. Also the information about Charles Dickens ward has both the ward name ‘Dickens’ spelt incorrectly and the councillor’s name ‘Chowdhury’ spelt incorrectly! Again this information is presented in tabloid form rather than simple facts and should be removed or very significantly changed. AudreyAvonley (talk) 21:48, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello AudreAvonley thanks for sending me a message, sorry for the late reply. You're right that article itself doesn't suggest that they had formed at C&S agreement at that point, but some form of deal had to have been struck. Two sources I found suggest a C&S:
 * "In Portsmouth, the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats went into the election both holding 17 seats, with the Labour Party supporting a Lib Dem-led administration."
 * From Liberal Democrat Voice, . In both the headline and article mention a deal between the parties in some way.
 * So it doesn't have to say C&S if that's not technically correct, but it should comment on them being in some kind of partnership. As four spelling mistakes. Surely you could have edited without deleting the whole paragraph. I attempt to approach issues as politically neutrally as possible. I understand that the media depicted the re-selection as more dramatic as it really was, but still was a significant event (as significant as a small city's thirds election can be). If you felt it was poorly written please correct it. --Jonjonjohny (talk) 10:46, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Momentum article
Hey J³. Just a quick heads up. A mischievous IP editor is trying to be ever so hilarious with the Momentum article. I've reverted them once and have left it for now. Too early to flag up yet I suspect but worth keeping an eye on :) doktorb wordsdeeds 22:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah really hilarious. Cheers for the update mate, will keep an eye :) Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Opinion polling fixes
Hi, I was wondering if you could please make some fixes on some polling tables? On the page Leadership approval opinion polling for the next Senedd Cymru election it is stated to use dmy dates but the tables are incorrectly dated month and then day. I managed to change this around (see my edit in the history section for how) but it messed up the 'date to' section. I realised how to fix this but I have no programme or automated way to do it and I kept messing up somewhere along the process of individually fixing each date. I was wondering if you could please help? Helper201 (talk) 21:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Sure I'll have a look over the weekend. The annoying thing with this code is one tiny error and it all messes up (it happens to everyone) Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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The question of reliability
Hi there, regarding your recent reversion, I wasn't making the case that notability = reliability. But it has been decided multiple times by the Wiki community that The Canary in particular is generally unreliable. Therefore it should not really be used as a source. These organisations may follow a press regulator, but so does Guido Fawkes, and that is considered generally unreliable. Alssa1 (talk) 00:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Alssa1 thanks for the response. I appreciate you sharing that link that shows reliable sources, I can never find that table to check things its buried under all of this website. Yeah that's fair enough it The Canary has been deemed unreliable. The MS and the disability news I would say is still acceptable sources. The trouble is that if there was a better source to use I would but the MSM in Britain doesn't really cover social movements much. Jonjonjohny (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The lack of "MSM" coverage of a particular organisation or movement does not really legitimise using sources with questionable reliability. I must admit I don't know much about 'Disability News', but are you sure it meets our reliability criteria? Alssa1 (talk) 18:49, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

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