User talk:Jonomacdrones/Archive 1

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Eleanor
I didn't edit because I simply thought it to be wrong, but because of what I found out about it. I was thinking about leaving the bit about Helen, but the part afterwards is quite clear about the meaning (it's the first known bearer of the name after all). So, it's not true that I didn't offer another explanation, since it was already in the article. Concerning the sources, I can only find one page stating the origin of the name to be Helen, while all the others say that it has a french/teutonic origin. Some mix it up, but even those connecting it to Helen mention Eleanor of Aquitaine to be the first known bearer. So maybe they simply connected it to "Elene"/"Elena" (-> Helen) and the similar sounding arabian name (which is mentionned in the article), because they didn't know about the meaning in the Occitan language. If the part about Helen should be included, it should be mentioned afterwards and as being uncertain, since the part about the origin of the name being "Alienor" is certain (like I said it is even mentioned on pages that state the origin to be Helen). And there connecting "Alienor" to Helen is already more difficult since the sound isn't close to Elena or Elene at all. The french wikipedia also explains the meaning of Alienor and Eleanor in the same way. So in fact a valid source for the connection to Helen is much more needed than for the connection to Alienor. I hope that this is what you consider "valid research" :) 81.56.106.64 11:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * What do you mean "basis"?. The article doesn't state any sources whatsoever, so it doesn't have a basis either, has it? 81.56.106.64 21:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Trisha
Sorry, I am unfamiliar with the subject matter. I just saw that the external links and categories had been completely removed without explanation in a previous edit so I restored them. Thanks for correcting my error. Khatru2 21:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Childhood Secret Club
Ah, it's cool about the signing thing (a rookie like me should be the last one to criticise!). Well, if there was errors in the "Buffalo" bit then I can escape the blame partly - I copied it as a citation from another page. Delete it if you want, I just thought that as a stub it might be useful to expand. :) -- LisaJay 19:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ayatollah (producer)
The article list several notable artist as having this guy as producer. It can't possibly fit the patent nonsense definition. If you still feel, this article requires deletion, please go through WP:AFD. - Mgm|(talk) 12:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The language isn't NPOV or jargon free, but nonsense has a specific definition. This isn't so nonsensical it can't be cleaned up. - Mgm|(talk) 16:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Sobranie
Thank you for the image! Can you grab me the text inside the top cover? Thank you so much! Chris 22:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks once again! :) Chris 06:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Flower garden
Haha oh sorry! I changed from popups to twinkle myself, because it's a little bit faster and gives me that extra edge ;-) Will (aka Wimt ) 00:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! It's not actually that hard to use when you get used to it. It just adds some extra buttons to make rolling back vandalism and adding warnings to talk pages quicker and easier. Will (aka Wimt ) 00:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV
Thank you for making a report on Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. --Nlu (talk) 17:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Respondesign
This page links, and has links from, other pages and seems a legitimate company- unless the author has forged links. For now i have removed the spam link, if it looks like it truley is spam then i will apologise. Jonomacdrones 16:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem....Thanks for the heads-up. Have a great day. Shoessss 19:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

AIV report
Thank you for making a report on Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. TomTheHand 20:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding edits made to Beaner
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Jonomacdrones! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule \burbandictionary\.com\/, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 22:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

204.171.48.140
Hey. I see you reporting this IP to AIV, as they had vandalized past a last warning. I've removed the report, since their last warning was 6 days ago and it's an IP address. Also, they seem to have stopped. If you encounter them again today, please report them. Thanks! Natalie 18:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. Since it's a school IP, there's a real good chance that whoever started vandalizing hadn't seen the warnings. I think they've stopped for good (fingers crossed). Natalie 18:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Kadok Heimer
That article was more of a db-bio article, since it's like a userpage biography, right? The Evil Clown 19:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC I was just checking to be sure about the templates, because to me it's worse, for example to get an attack warning than a simple newbie mistake of confusing your userpage and what is an accepted article. The Evil Clown 19:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC) Anyhow, it's going to be deleted, so I won't argue about it.  The Evil Clown 19:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Photography Polynesia
Hi, I see you've tagged Photography Polynesia for speedy deletion. You might want to look at this, this, this and this. Not really sure how you would tag multiple pages for deletion. Any ideas? --Starrycupz 21:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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Biographies of living people
This edit was completely unacceptable. If someone removes unsourced statements from a biography of a living person, those statements should stay out until they can be properly sourced. Please read WP:BLP and revert more carefully in the future. Thank you, Mak (talk)  21:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Please make an effort to ascertain the details of an edit first, i made that revert on a NPOV issue- those were somebody's own personal biases. Cheers Jonomacdrones 23:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I did ascertain the details. You replaced basically libelous material into an article on a living person without any sources whatsoever. This is completely and utterly unacceptable. Mak (talk)  23:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No, the edit before that was the stuff about him being the worst something or other, i removed that- That is the libellous information without sources, it is information which could damage a person's reputation which is not necessarily true- that is one, albeit of many, legal definition of libel. My edit removed this. Jonomacdrones 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, perhaps it was a mistake but this diff clearly shows you replacing libelous material which someone else removed, and the next edit adding fact tags to further crappy material. Mak (talk)  23:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If i'm honest with you, it seemed a more productive alternative to getting into an edit war, and i don't particularly like removing stuff from wikipedia if it can be supported- the guy could have statistically been the worst coach- I'd presume that the guy writing the article didn't mean statistically, but this way it left the way open for someone to prove or disprove this. I see now it caused more problems than the couple it solved. Jonomacdrones 23:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you see that. Please remember that these articles are about real people with real feelings, who will very likely eventually read them. We should never allow material like that without a solid source in a biography of a living person. Mak (talk)  23:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I know, i will easily concede that, but when you see a tag, what do you automatically think? I almost always think of it like an invitation for agreement- the edittor knows they have no source and knows it should probably be gone, yet the fact may stand and so it should be tagged so others can offer assent by placing a source, or dissent by removing it. Obviously the original edittor believed this deeply enough to keep adding it, but if i tag it someone else with more knowledge on the subject can give their opinion. Thats a very long winded way of communicating my point, but i hope you get the gist of what i am saying, Jonomacdrones 23:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you read WP:BLP yet? It is policy. Please read it. Biographies of living people are in a separate class, and must be treated with special care and vigilance. There should not be fact tags in a BLP, disputed facts should be either sourced or removed. Period. Mak (talk)  00:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

golan heights
I read the policies. Can you identify how my edits are against the policy? I am giong to give references as well if you like. But please let me know how do you think this is against policy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.122.23.27 (talk) 19:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

Thanks dear. I have given now and i will find more references if you feel they are needed. I am going to make a user as well so that IP address is not give here. --88.122.23.27 19:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Block request
208.104.24.125 has vandalized again. --Cremepuff222 ( talk,  review me! ) 20:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * How does one do that? --Cremepuff222  ( talk,  review me! ) 20:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

J. L. Mann
Sorry, I wasn't aware J.L. Mann was unremarkable.--Gacelo 22:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

hypocrite
Wallpapering my my user page with unfounded charges by this out of control uncivil editor Propol is uncivil as well as a form of harassment. You enabling this and only blaming me is indicative of your your bias for this out of control editor who has no business whatsoever being on my user page and peppering it with orange warnings which he has no proof whatsoever.Danadasquare 22:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Amehbahlou
Hi. You recently reported this user to WP:AIV. I'm a little confused why you reported them, as their only edits were two days ago, they were given a short block, and they haven't edited since. If there's something I'm missing here, please let me know. Natalie 20:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. These things happen. Natalie 20:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting it, mate.. Spiritual Turbulence, not wrong there —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonomacdrones (talk • contribs) 20:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
 * No worries. True that vandalism creates spiritual turbulence, resulting in misfortune. --  FayssalF  - Wiki me up ®  12:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

TJT
The following nonsense was left by TJT in an odd part of the talk page- I commend his command of English

Eddie projex rep the town you beezy. he a hustla, town business you beezy.

WIRE - Women in Rural Enterprise
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Airline destination page
I created a separate page for China Eastern Airlines destinations because the original list was cluttering the main article, why has it been deleted in a matter of seconds, despite me posting a "hang on" message. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inspector123 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Razor26
Might interest you to know that Mr. Razor26 has just created another ridiculous spam page - Panty job. It always thrills me to see a spammer get tossed. --Action Jackson IV 20:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

User Page
Am I able to delete some parts of my user talk page such as notice of deletion ao things already deleted? Tut74749 22:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

User Page
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I have uploaded the following images. They are copied from http://www.archive.org/details/Nina_Cicchelli

I now that it is against wikipedia policy to identify children. Can you help me find a way to upload this image with out violating this policy? --Nina90 23:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: mb20
My edits are in line with Wikipedia:Naming conventions. See also Talk:Matchbox Twenty. I suggest that you take a closer look at Vandalism before you warn me. Jogers (talk) 11:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The article mentions that the band name is sometimes typeset as "matchbox twenty" which is perfectly enough. Technical restrictions are not the case here. Jogers (talk) 11:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, most pages I found on Google refer to them as "Matchbox Twenty". Manual of Style (trademarks) is another relevant guideline: follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment. Renaming Microsoft to Micro$oft would be a good example if the company officially used the second spelling. In that case the article should be named just Microsoft and possibly mention the stylized typography in the lead section. This would be more similar to this case when "official" capitalization is replaced with proper one. Jogers (talk) 12:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * What official sources do is less relevant than what secondary sources do. The proper capitalization in English language is "Matchbox Twenty". I'm not sure what is your point about "mATCH bOX tWENTY". Jogers (talk) 12:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * According to what some folks say at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (trademarks) the band name qualifies as trademark. Please, consider discussing your doubts there. Jogers (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't follow. WP:MOS-TM refers not only to special characters but also says to "capitalize trademarks, as with proper names" and "follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". I find this perfectly clear. The issue of non-standard capitalization of band names has been discussed on several occasions and as far as I know the consensus was always in favor of standard English capitalization. I don't see a reason to make an exception in this case. Jogers (talk) 13:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I see no absurdity here but consider sharing your thoughts at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (trademarks). Consensus can change although I find it quite unlikely in this case. There is nothing special about this band name that would differentiate it from The Pillows or Kiss among many examples of articles that sparked extensive discussions about usage of non-standard capitalization of band names in Wikipedia articles. I'm sorry I wasn't more convincing. Jogers (talk) 14:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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Vandalism?
Uh, you are aware you just reverted as vandalism, my revert of vandalism? Check out the history - this guy's been at it for a while. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't want to break 3RR (though I'm not sure if my vandal reverts count) so I'd rather you did it, particularly as you accused me of vandalism in the edit summary. As for libellous, if you read my version, you will note it contains a link of an interview with Billie Joe in The Advocate in which he discusses his bisexuality... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Barbara Ann Crumm
I think you're right; I wasn't sure which db-template to use in that case (I don't think there is a db-autobio template or anything similar, is there?), so I went with the db-bio --Mhking 01:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Home Improvement articles
Please see my comment on talk:What About Bob? (Home Improvement) - I've no problem at all with CSD'ing all the episodes, but to single one out whilst leaving 20+ others whose content is no more informative seems inconsistent. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  01:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Its the only one i saw, sorry- i was watching recent changes, spotted that and didn't think too far into it. Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  01:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * On closer inspection they're all copyvios from http://epguides.com/HomeImprovement/season1.shtml - do you think it's better to CSD the episodes altogether or to leave the title, episode number and cast as a shell? -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  01:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Whilst it'd be easier to report them as one, it'd ultimately mean an admin would need to go through them one by one- in the interest of ease, a CSD report should include the need for all to be removed and the creator's contributions list as a link, to provide a reference for how many there are. What are your thoughts? Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  01:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Myself and User:Tainter have gone through the list and deleted all the copyvio text, leaving just the titles, air date and cast as ultra-stubs - someone will no doubt recreate them legitimately fairly soon and this at least saves them the trouble of retyping all that. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  01:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, cool- what of the guy who added all the stuff in the first place? Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  02:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He's got a talk page full of warnings; I'll keep an eye on him for the next couple of days to make sure he doesn't keep on doing it (so far, he's only added series 1). I think he's probably adding in good faith; I gave him some advice re adding links and stub-tagging when he first started adding them, and before I realised they were a copyvio, and he did go back and correct them. His edit history shows this to be his first day, so I think he's probably just overly keen - and I don't really want his "welcome to wikipedia" to be the AfD'ing of the first 24 articles he submits! -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  02:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Jack0343 appears to be re-adding all the copyvio material... I've posted a note on the admin board[:He's restarted posting the copyvios - I've posted a note on the admin board to watch him, as this I don't want this to turn into a revert war. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  13:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)] to watch him as I don't want this to turn into a revert war. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  10:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh lord, alright- i'll keep an eye on whats going on since your last warning to him, but yeah- a revert war is that last thing we all need. Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  13:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Your revert in the Australian lists
Hi Jonomacdrones, your revert in the Australian lists has made the lists unusable. I am in contact with all the editors of the lists and we have just changed the whole system into a new one. There was no vandalism involved. It's just a major restructuring of the lists. I will set it back, as before your revert, please contact me before you revert again. Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 22:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC) -- Will be back in about 7 hours from now. Hoverfish Talk 23:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:I Liq Chuan
See my post there. MahangaTalk to me 16:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Is suspected of being a block evading Puppet of User:Thetruthurts and has been reported to AIV. Purgatory Fubar Converse or Snafu 23:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jonomacdrones. I will read carefully the guidelines for Anita Kunz article. She is a very important illustrator and I will like to ad more well know illustrators in the near future. Best, F.

Hi Jonomacdrones,

I'm curious why my Rick Hader article was so quickly deleted. I am actually Rick's brother, and the information provided is accurate.

Also, Wikipedia has an existing article for Rick's alter-ego, Myron Noodleman, but won't allow an article about the actual person playing Myron's part? That's a bit confusing...

Thanks for your time,

Matt Hader

Delaware State Fair
many other state fairs have their own wikipedia entry....do your research. WillC 23:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * then maybe you should think about giving me a chance to add more instead of blasting new articles out of the water. btw, the info is from the official site i listed. WillC 23:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

state fairs
you need to look at these if you are that delete happy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowlands_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Farm_Show

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Fair_of_Virginia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Wisconsin_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Wisconsin_State_Fair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_State_Fair

I have as much if not more than them. WillC 23:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * you are just trolling at this point if you don't see just how lacking these pages are. look at wyoming's two liner and repeat your claim with a straight face. stay off my talk page or i will report you for vandalism/harassment. WillC 00:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * no, what you are doing is vandalism. you won't admit you are wrong, even when it has been clearly pointed out to you on your talk page. it is obvious you have no clue about america. WillC 00:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverting your userpage
I'm sorry. I reverted this on sight for WP:NPA as I was going through that editor's changelist. My apologies ... - Alison ☺ 00:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

National Tom Day
I tagged this article with db-bio because I read the CSD instructions as noting that a previous speedy does not qualify an article for CSD on this basis, but the previous CSD category may. I am going to change it back, as I think the main problem in this article is its content rather than its prior deletions. However, it would not surprise me if the creator becomes blocked soon for disruptive behaviour.--Xnuala (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the template you used on the creator's page...is it a standard one?--Xnuala (talk) 01:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

yup
hey, thanks for helping out, this editor refuses to not blank her talk page, now they are busting the 3rr rule on me. I think they are mad because theyt violated the rule on the global warming page, and so now after I posted a notice warning them of 3rr they decided to blank their talk page. TotallyTempo 19:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, good call, it seems that editing her page will just go on for infinity....I dunno how to ban people though.

Thank you, kind sir. TotallyTempo 19:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Project haiti
Two of the sections match large portions of the URL listed word for word. You're right that it does read like an advert, bordering on speedy-delete status. Notability is a big issue, too. If an admin doesn't give it the hook and the article doesn't improve, we can prod or AfD it. Check that: I just clicked on the link as I was previewing this message, and the article was speedied. Realkyhick 19:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

New Page Creation and deleting talk comments
Hello-- received this message from you after attempting to create my first wiki regarding the Edward E. Carlson Leadership and Public Service Center. "Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Carlson leadership and public service center. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are however welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. Cheers, Jonomacdrones (talk) 22:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC) Please explain.... I do not believe that I deleted any notice (at least not intentionally) and I do not understand why my page has been deleted. I received no feedback and submitted comments on the proposed deletion defending the submission. The page has since been deleted and I would like to know where I can find out what changes should be made to in order for the submission to be accepted and considered legitimate wiki material. Please email mattwojo@u.washington.edu or respond on my talk page. Thank-you for your time! Mattwojo 18:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)Mattwojo