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LafayetteBunnellDraft
I moved Jonwurl/LafayetteBunnellDraft to User:Jonwurl/LafayetteBunnellDraft, which I suspect was your intent. The first was an article with a strange name; the second is a user page. —teb728 t c 23:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Augustin Grignon
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Speedy deletion nomination of Wisconsin Valley Improvement Company
Hello Jonwurl,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Wisconsin Valley Improvement Company for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

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 * Hello, just to let you know that this has now been moved into userspace until it is ready to become a main article as per a request on my talk page. If you wish to improve the article it can be found at User:Shirt58/Wisconsin Valley Improvement Company--5 albert square (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

About "userfied" draft of Wisconsin Valley Improvement Company
Hi Laurentian Shield.

I did have the Tennessee Valley Authority in mind when I objected to the speedy deletion of the WVIC article. Perhaps we could model a prospective article along the lines of that article? There is one very important difference between the TVA and the WVIC, however. The TVA is a government-owned corporation while the WVIC appears to - at least now - be an entirely private sector enterprise.

You also mentioned a book about the company: could you possibly give an ISBN for it, and some details about the author?

In the original article, you mentioned Wisconsin statutes that the company was established under. They won't assist an assertion of notability, as they are primary sources and reliance on them would be original research. They may nevertheless be useful in a strictly limited way. Do you know of an online repository of WI legislation that you could possibly point me to?

--Shirt58 (talk) 10:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that I have done exactly what I get annoyed about other editors doing. "online repository of WI legislation" should be "online repository of the Wisconsin, United States of America legislation".   --Shirt58 (talk) 10:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Shirt58 -- I am going to piecemeal my responses. I don't think you are saying this, but I do want to be clear that "private versus state-owned" is not the distinction of notability.  One thing that is interesting along those lines is that if anyone had an objection to an article being promotional, you would think it would be to the Wisconsin Public Service Corporation article.  And note that WPSC is a "member owner" of the WVIC.  And in fact, I bet several of the member companies have WikiPedia articles.  Would it me helpful to list them with their wikilinks?  I just left them unnamed in my original text.  More later ... Laurentian Shield (talk) 01:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, just following up on the member companies and their wikilinks:
 * NewPage Coproation
 * Domtar Corporation
 * Alliant Energy Corporation
 * Wisconsin Public Service Corporation
 * Member companies without WikiPedia article (company web site is linked):
 * Packaging Corporation of America
 * Wausau Paper Corporation
 * Still more later ... Laurentian Shield (talk) 02:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again -- Both of the books I cited have their ISBNs on the article that is now on your user page. Richard Durbin's book is the most authoritative:
 * I have not read the Michael Goc book, I just know it exists:
 * Laurentian Shield (talk)
 * Laurentian Shield (talk)
 * Laurentian Shield (talk)


 * Completing my response to the above questions/requests: Chapter 182 of the Wisconsin Statutes Laurentian Shield (talk) 17:08, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Augustin Grignon
Citation needed tag is fine. I couldn't readily find a reliable source for his exact date and place of death either. -- Mesconsing (talk) 22:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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