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Knockdown
Hi, Thanks for contributing to the sailing article. However, I have to disagree with your definition of knockdown. The best place to discuss this is the article's talk page, so please check out and contribute to the discussion I've started there. Cheers, — Johan the Ghost seance 10:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jordan, I noticed the message you started on my talk page. You should have left it there — that was a very reasonable message.

I've heard of Queen Jane before, in fact I spent some time reading your logs before I followed in your wake... not nearly as much of it as I would have liked, but fun, anyhow. (my logs, if you're interested.) Congratulations on crossing the Pacific — I'm deeply jealous! ;-)

Anyhow, I quite agree that sailing is mostly art, and that getting a "definition" of any sailing term is particularly hard. All we can do is try to represent how the broad sailing community uses a term, and since I'm certainly not an expert either, I think the best way to do that is with a discussion on the talk page. Gathering multiple opinions is good; so is citing external sources, as verifiability is a key Wikipedia policy. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was laying down the law; that was certainly not the intention.

Anyway, good luck with the retirement, and may it be soon. I too have been forced back into the rat race to earn freedom chips, and I also want to make that as brief as possible. Cheers, — Johan the Ghost seance 11:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi again John, or is it Ian? Is JohnTheGhost the Ian of S/V Moonrise? Anyway, thanks for the kind words re: crossing the pacific or was it criss-crossing? I would happily criss cross it another dozen times. We hope to spend many more years cruising in the future but we are not ready for retirement yet - but someday we will get back out there.

As for removing the very reasonable message to the talk page - I thought I was addressing a private message page and then realized it was public. The second message made the same points. Perhaps the first was as good. Sorry for my dogmatic sounding defense of knockdown vs capsize, I just felt Capsize was a very, very specific thing.

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