User talk:Joseph20202021/Archive 4

Philippine general election, 2007
Can u make an election map for the 2007 elections, i have a copy of the national summary so u can use for references Rizalninoynapoleon 08:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Jimmy Alapag
Do you know why Jimmy Alapag is included in Category:Duke Blue Devils men's basketball players? Thanks, Zagalejo 04:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've removed the category: He never played for Duke, right? Zagalejo 23:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Philippine Presidents
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Kapampangan Ku
Would you kindly help me improve the page. Thanks.

--Joselito Basilio 12:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

proposed merge: Aldebaran in fiction
I have proposed merging Aldebaran in fiction into the main article, Aldebaran. I'd appreciate any input on Talk:Aldebaran_in_fiction. Regards, —AldeBaer 15:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

PM infoboxes
Hi Joseph, I've started a discussion here regarding your recent edits, I invite you to join. Cheers, Alec -(answering machine) 11:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

My revert
I reverted your addition of a wikilink in Te Atairangikaahu. It is not necessary. Moriori 08:09, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:ACarrCavs.jpg
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Please use edit summaries
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Image:Act_melvin_sanders.jpg
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Image:AguirreDal.jpg
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Image:Ahannumphl.jpg
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يعقوب رياض الصراف
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Fair use rationale for Image:WashingtonCapitols1.gif
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Image:Barry_350.jpg
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Image:BellamyWas.jpg
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Image:BingDet.jpg
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Edit summaries
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 * Thanks so much for beginning to consistently use edit summaries. -- Fyslee/ talk  15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned/replaceable nonfree image
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2007 General election
Sorry for the revert but on wide screens without the break it messes up the article. Cheers, Alec  ✉  ﹌ ۞ 12:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Heinsohnbos.jpg
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Proposed change of name from War on Islam to War Against Islam
This seems less ambiguous and more widely used. Any objections? --BoogaLouie 18:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Why the undoing of Sabah's Independence facts and references?
You've undone many of references that are more academic and offical than the earlier weblink reference. This is against the official policy of wikipedia. Offical and legal documents overide websites. You can refer to my blog for a look at the legal document, sabahcolonised.blogspot.com

For the text book, I'm not offering it at any website but only refer to it. The text book indicate clearly that SAbah is only independent on the 16th of September. which means that the academic version is the 16th of Sep, 1963. However there is another versioin which states that Sabah achieved independence on the 31st of August, which is supported by websites, news editorials, and self-published books. This must be recorded as such, but with mention that these are still against official academic versioin.

I shall therefore undo what you've undone. Please refer to the references first before you undo them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Othmanskn (talk • contribs) 14:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Machine translations
I just corrected the makeup and grammar of Gumersindo Magaña because it appears to have been a machine translation. I have seen more articles you wrote that seem to be machine translations. Since they often give very bad results, could you from now on please translate articles yourself, or at least correct grammar after a machine translation? Mixcoatl 22:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Wkennedy2_180x250.jpg
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Governor of Yucatán
Hello. It looks like you translated the es:Wikipedia version of Governor of Yucatán and added it to the en: version here. Thank you! However note that version only has Governors since 1922, while Yucatán had governors for a full century earlier. I put back the listing (unfortunately incomplete) of governors inbetween Independence and the Mexican Revolution into the article. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 14:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Angigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Brazil, Costa Rica, Libya, Mexico, Norway, Brazil, Poland, South Africa, Trinidad and Tobago, Urugway
The estimates of those countries are based on data of 2005 (except for Trinidad and Tobago of which estimates are based on data of 2002), as one can see here 213.151.32.56 17:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I wanna give you a prize
I'm Javitomad, a Spanish user of English wikipedia.

I've seen you've improved some articles about Spain.

Because of that, I want to give you a Barnstar, the Spanish Barnstar.

(copy and paste this in your user page.)

Javitomad (...tell me...) 17:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Logo PARM.jpg
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Logo PDM1.jpg
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Merger proposed: 15 Global Challenges → Millennium Project
It has been proposed to merge the content of 15 Global Challenges into Millennium Project. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 15:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries
Please turn on the preference reminding you to clue the rest of us in on what your edits (and the few preceding) were for.
 * Clicking minor is not enough! Just use some standard abbrevs like "typo" "punct", "fix my bad"... whatever. Remember, there are dozens of people watching "Recent Changes" some change without a summary's likely drawing dozens of people scrutinizing the change for vandalism world wide... so not summarizing is likely to waste lots of peoples time! Also, and the history is far less useful without such. The KEY is to think about what you might need to see as a reminder of what you were about if looking back at a page a month later--then have the courtesy to provide that note to others too--or a bit better, as they won't share your memories. Cheers! // Fra nkB  22:13, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yuck! Why don't you archive your image notices... things are a bit bright scanning back up your page! Cheers again. // Fra nkB 22:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Re: Excuse me! It is not my fault that the spelling of invaded was ivaded. What I change is that in the sports section. Thank you.--Joseph Solis in Australia 09:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Try two

 * Joseph, my sincere apologies if I wasn't clear... I was referring to the several edits you made before that difference link, where you didn't leave any edit summary. We all make typos, and summaries are important for the reasons I touched on above. But to be blunt, someone that doesn't leave them is, imho furthermore, an obnoxious ass and totally discourteous of their impact on other peoples time.


 * I don't think you want to be thought of in that manner&mdash;if you were THAT kind of idiot, you wouldn't have answered my note at all. So &mdash; leave the rest of us a clue so history pages like THIS tell a story as to "what happened" when, by whom, and WHY! (Like a news reporter, WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, and WHY) My "complaint", if you choose to call it that, was you left out the WHAT and/or WHY... the computer takes care of the other three. So once again, please turn on the reminder in user preferences to give someone scanning a page history a summary of what your minor edit was about. Thank you&mdash;for all of us. Best wishes, // Fra nkB 09:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Re: I will answer your question why I cannot provide an edit summary in Romania. It is because I forgot to describe what my edit in Romania sports section last Saturday. --Joseph Solis in Australia 09:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * and...
 * Re: And, I am not do any vandalism in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Solis in Australia (talk • contribs) 09:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC) 

Let's start again

 * 1) Sorry, we are still not communicating clearly. Lets try again!


 * 1) I have great faith you are both a diligent and careful editor.


 * 1) I never implied that you were a vandal,... but instead said there are many people watching for vandalism,... and that one way that some of them do that is to look at a page's history of "edit summaries".


 * 1) Further, the page "Special recent changes" is watched by many patrolling against vandalism (like an hawk looking for mice...) &mdash; meaning that lack of edit summaries was an unnecessary additional (extra) burden (load) on their time ... and is therefore, a kind of avoidable discourtesy.


 * 1) In my personal opinion   ...imposing such extra work on people is rude and impolite if it can be avoided.
 * 2) Further, edit summaries are so important to some of us, that there has even been some software written to try to do them when they are missing. See WP:AES, which is usually doing what YOU SHOULD BE DOING (And doing better!&mdash;What and Why!!!) for you here.
 * 3) Reminded now of this, you should not have so many Minor edits...
 * 4) The point to all of this is such notations and edit summaries are important tools that cause good or bad effects to other people.

In other words.... Do you know that in User Preferences under the Editing" there is this list of "Click options"?



In the end, all I asked was that you turn that box "on", and use some kinds of edit summaries. Thank you. (And sorry I brought it up, but someone has to ask!) HAVE A GREAT WEEK! // Fra nkB 18:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Another request
Re: These here redirect pages creations... Please see Redirects and especially [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Redirect_pages this page] and find the correct "{R to ...}" or "{R from ...}" templates that should also be put on those pages. See my contribs for a few examples (AND EDIT SUMMARIES!) and template cat also (Look at it's where used page, most will be redirects!). Sorry, I must go. // Fra nkB 18:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Ooops
Sorry bout that, inadvertent revert while trying to undo 124.106.34.77's edit on the time from 8:15 to 8:07. Not meant for you. -- • Kurt Guirnela •  ‡ Talk 10:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use
I have seen this image while trying to contribute a bit to Baro't saya article with no fair use and its been used in many articles (see links). If you have time, please fix. Thank you. --&#946;ritand&#946;eyonce (talk•contribs) 10:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. The template says This tag must only be used in conjunction with a fair use tag. --&#946;ritand&#946;eyonce (talk•contribs) 10:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How about this phrase stated in that tag above? To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information. Also, the image might be deemed for deletion because it has been used by a number of articles and no proper rationales has been stated. Isn't it befuddling? --&#946;ritand&#946;eyonce (talk•contribs) 10:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's clear now. Thank you. --&#946;ritand&#946;eyonce (talk•contribs) 09:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Australian States imagemap
Hi. I just noticed that about a month ago you reverted my replacement of the existing clickable map of the Australian States with an image map. The new image map used the new functionality built in to MediaWiki which obviates the method used to create the clickable map you put back in. I was just wondering why you'd done this; were you unhappy with the map image used? Or the fact that the oceans and seas were not clickable? Or something else? Please get back to me on this asap, as I have the spare time now to fix up any problems you might have seen. - Mark (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again. I was just wondering if you missed my above message, because you haven't replied, but you have continued to edit articles. Did you forget to respond? - Mark 13:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, I'll take your silence to indicate that you have no objections to me reversing your edit. You really should work on your social interaction skills, though, as it's polite to respond to people who speak to you. - Mark 12:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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The Alameda Gibraltar Botanic Gardens
Hello! An IP had actually tweaked the image name and hence it didn't appear. Just thought I ought to let you know why I reverted. -- Chris.B  |  talk  10:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Flip_saunders.jpg
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Incorrect use of Minor edit flag
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AfD nomination of Republican In Name Only
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About date formatting
Please don't change the format of dates. Most British people and many people internationally write dates in day-month-year order, e.g., 12 December 1904. Most Americans use month-day-year order, e.g., December 12, 1904. If the article is about an American topic, use month-day-year. If it is a British topic, use day-month-year. If neither, leave it as originally written. Many Americans or British people take offence if an article about their country, written in their local version of English, is changed around to a version they don't use. So please do not do that.

Dates are usually enclosed in two square brackets, as in 12 December or December 12. This means that you can set your preferences (if you look around your screen you'll see the word preferences; click on it and follow the instructions) to ensure that you see all dates in the format you want, whether date-month-year, month-date-year or yyyy-mm-dd. The general rules on how Wikipedia articles are written can be seen in the Manual of Style. Rules specific to dates and numbers can be seen in the Manual of Style (dates and numbers).

If you have any questions about this, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Enjoy your time on the web's fastest growing encyclopædia (or encyclopedia, if you write it that way!). Dl2000 (talk) 01:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Apologies - should have specified the article in question: Gilles Grondin, a Canadian subject. Since Canada has no consensus on date formatting, dates on the Canadian-related articles should not be changed. American and British influences are in effect there; Quebec in particular (where Gilles Grondin is from) uses day-month-year order as standard due to French/European influence. As you rightly indicated, Australian, British, or Indian articles are best with day-month-year (International) format; articles associated with those nations are not a concern in this case. Dl2000 (talk) 16:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Shia Islam page move reverted
Hello. I have reverted your move of the Shia Islam article. As per Talk:Shia Islam, Shia Islam is the consensus-determined name. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Date changing
You recently changed a date in an article from 26 June to June 26; the arrangement of a date doesn't actually matter, because as long as it is wikilinked, you can set your preferences to have Wikipedia display them anyway you want them to. This setting is controlled from the "Date and Time" tab. (If that has already been done, you will notice the date above will appear the same both times.) vıdıoman  (talk • contribs) 19:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Canada actually (officially) uses the dd/mm/yyyy system, and 24 hour time. Due to Americanism, most Canadians use the other systems, but officially, all dates and times should use the British system. Due to these ambiguities, both should be acceptable for Canadian articles. This is true for spellings of certain words -- colour and color, privatize and privatise, etc. I am Canadian and I have always used dd/mm/yyyy, as have almost every form I have ever filled out that has required a date. vıdıoman  (talk • contribs) 07:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)