User talk:Joseph2302/Archives/2016/February

Speedy Deletion of Work Truck Solutions
Hey Joseph2302,

Hopefully I'm leaving you this message correctly. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia.

You recently nominated a page I wrote on Work Truck Solutions for speedy deletion (A7 and G11).

Looking back at the page I can see how you would see it as promotional, although I did my best to include purely factual information and avoid subjective opinions. As for G11, it seems to me that the page's subject was notable. The page included a number of references to publications discussing the company and had more information than many other existing pages I've read.

Do you have any recommendations to help me insure future pages are considered notable and not promotional?

If I wanted to get another page created on the same topic (Work Truck Solutions) do you have any suggestions? Should I go back and edit the content? Start from scratch? Request an article be written by someone else? Do you think that the topic is notable enough?

Thanks for your help and all your work making Wikipedia a great resource. Paulabaulabingbong (talk) 22:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm going to bed, so cannot answer now.
 * Pinging the deleting admin,he may be able to give a quicker /better response. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Google Doodle task force
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Regarding David M. Cote
Can you explain why you consider the proposed addition on the talk page of David M. Cote by User:FacultiesIntact to be spam? They asked me on my talk page to look into the proposed additions and as I noted in response, while I don't think the addition to TRW is necessary, the additions to the other two section give more detailed and useful information and improve the section. Why would that be spam? Silver seren C 00:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Because I believe it needs a fundamental rewrite to be NPOV, and seeks only to glorify their customer.
 * Also, why was this editor canvassing your talk page? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Asking one person to take a look isn't canvassing and there is no consensus discussion going on. Now, what is wrong with how it is written? The first and third sections just add more detailed information about the jobs he had, such as how he was hired and what led to his promotion, which is necessary and useful information for a biography. How do they glorify him, exactly? Silver  seren C 08:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I just saw the speedy deletion claim you made on the draft version. You know full well that it does not meet the speedy deletion criteria. I can only assume that you doing so was in bad faith and that you either have a negative POV against the article subject or against the user in question. I'm requesting now that you step back from this article or I will be forced to escalate this. Silver  seren C 08:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe it does meet the speedy deletion criteria, otherwise I wouldn't have nominated it- accusing me of bad faith or a negative POV is unjustified, and I consider it a personal attack. I'll step back, but I don't think these edits are positive at all, and am disappointed by the reaction of another experienced editor towards me. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The fact that you've been so hostile to FacultiesIntact, including this edit summary, doesn't give me much reason to give you good faith. I think you are POV biased against paid editors and would consider any content submission from them to be "spam", which is the only reason why I can think of on how you could believe the draft version is promotional or spam, when it is literally just a draft to suggest improvements. Silver  seren C 09:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't like paid editors, but I respect that Wikipedia allows them. However my talkpage (where I can pose restrictions) clearly bans all COI and paid editors. Therefore he shouldn't have posted here. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Regarding VRA's tree
Hi Jospeh, with regard to the VRA ground being a first class cricket ground with a tree in it, I'm not sure which of these two facts you're contesting. Here's a picture of Lance Klusner fielding under the tree during the 1999 World Cup: http://im.rediff.com/cricket/2004/aug/19amstelveen.jpg. Here's a list of First Class matches played at VRA: http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Grounds/20/1350_f.html. According to wikipedia's verifiability policy inline citations are only required for material which is challenged or likely to be challenged. I don't think this information is likely to be challenged by anyone in their right mind, unless of course you are currently challenging it. So can we switch it back now or are we going to leave a demonstrable falsehood up for no good reason?

85.62.20.249 (talk) 11:40, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Think I've spotted the issue- VRA Cricket Ground hosted it's first first-class match in 2007, the source I used was probably from before that. I've readded it.
 * And screw it, I ran an incorrect DYK then. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I happened to spot this on a diff. I wonder if it might be nice to run a DYK on the VRA ground now? It seems to have been the first ground outside of the U.K. in Europe to host a World Cup game, for example. That strikes me as DYK-able. There are some decent sources out there as well about it - I might have time this weekend, if not half-term is in a couple more weeks. What do you think? Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm away at half-term, but it's probably doable in 2-4 hours - I'd already thought about doing a DYK for it. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Irish Messi listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Irish Messi. Since you had some involvement with the Irish Messi redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 01:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Noted thanks. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

 * No problem, I stand by what I said there, I think you're a fantastic editor who puts in a ton of hard work in difficult areas such as COI. Unfortunately in doing so, it seems you became too controversial a candidate to be an admin, which I think is a massive shame. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Matt Hobden
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

We Are the Bible
I think that this page should stay just the way it is.. because otherwise people who try to collect to complete discography of the band get confused. Information on this site isn't quite accurate lately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grindnom (talk • contribs) 22:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just because it exists doesn't make it notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia requires evidence of significant, independent coverage in reliable sources, or otherwise for the song to have won a major award/achievement. From what I can see, neither apply here. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Central Recreation Ground, Hastings
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Eros International
Hi Joseph, you kindly helped me a few months back when I needed to make some changes to my employer's page - Eros International.

We now require a few more updates to be made. I know as an employee it's not recommended that I make these changes myself or without prior discussion with the community so I have left my required changes on the talk page of the company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Eros_International).

I was hoping someone would come back and confirm these changes are ok to make, or make the changes themselves (whichever is the preferred method) but I haven't heard back as yet. Would you be able to assist me again - or let me know where I can go to request my comments to be reviewed?

Many thanks, Vanisha Dhimer (talk) 13:05, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm currently on holiday, so don't have time to review the changes. If any of the 120 people watching my talkpage could look at this, would be greatly appreciated. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:29, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Deleting The Descendants of American Slaves Page
I was not aware, that I could not remove the tag. Could you please tell me what specific content warranted to be tagged as 'promotional,"I was still developing the page, Thank you.

T. Semakula — Preceding unsigned comment added by DASI100 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can't see the page as it was deleted, but I recommend reading about Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, and also the conflict of interest policy. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Awesome Page!

 * Thank you, although as noted on your talkpage, the primary purpose of Wikipedia is to build an encyclopedia with content, not be a social network. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Cologne patricians
Hello Joseph2302. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Cologne patricians, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is clearly more than what is in Overstolz - did you tag the right page? Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 23:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Technically Overstolz was the older article.
 * Instead, I've redirected Overstolz to Cologne patricians, as that page has more about Overstolz family than the article did. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Asian Test Championship
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 * Joseph2302 (talk) 09:40, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Warwickslade Cutting Railway
Thank you very much for reviewing my WP:DYK nominaton Warwickslade Cutting Railway. In hinesight, I understand the need for QPQ. Unfortunately, at present I cannot review another article with the requiered thoroughness due to other committments. I am not sure, whether exemptions are possible, or if we should wait until I have reviewed another nomination. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 12:02, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This is just my fourth WP:DYK nomination. I understand that "people who have made fewer than five DYK nominations, are not required to do another review." Therefore, I would be pleased, if you wave it through without QPQ. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 12:19, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed, the DYK counting tool says it's your third nomination. Will update and pass the DYK.
 * Sorry for the mistake, I noticed on your talkpage that you had 10 DYK notices, so assumed you had nominated them all (which I was wrong to assume). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing this article. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 18:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Warwickslade Cutting Railway
Hi, I came across your review of this DYK hook while building prep sets. The green approval tick should only be used at the end of your review, when you approve the nomination. Otherwise, it looks like the nomination is approved while you're still in the middle of it. If you want to insert check marks, perhaps you could use this: (written this way:  ). Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:26, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Noted. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)