User talk:Joseph2302/Archives/2020/June

Tech News: 2020-23
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos.

Problems
 * There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May.
 * The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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DYK for Pelham Arcade
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Covid Symptom Study
Hello! Your submission of Covid Symptom Study at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-24
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting.
 * Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them.  is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work.   can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect   or.
 * There is a banner called . It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on   so that editors know to test and style for mobile too.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

Future changes
 * A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected.

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DYK nomination of Orcières-Merlette
Hello! Your submission of Orcières-Merlette at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for COVID Symptom Study
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

PROD
Hi Joseph2302, I saw your comment over at AfD on the Color Me A Rainbow discussion. I definitely understand the frustration about the bureaucracy involved. I do want to point out, however, that plenty of pages are PRODded and never see them ever again. As such, having PROD makes sense in that it does reduce the volume at AfD, even though we sometimes do have to rehash a discussion on an obviously non-notable topic. If we were to get rid of the PROD mechanism, we'd be dealing with even MORE at AfD. Anyway, that's my two cents. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! Waggie (talk) 19:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I've also seen many examples where people ask months or years later for crap articles to be re-instated, and then they just get AfDed straight away. Which is why I think it's a waste of time, and in my opinion, people should just use AFD straight away instead, so that the crap stays deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:17, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Orcières-Merlette
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-25
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Toolforge hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from tools.wmflabs.org to toolforge.org. The routing scheme is moving from tools.wmflabs.org/toolname to toolname.toolforge.org. You can read the details. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can ask for help.

Problems
 * There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the Monobook skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed.
 * Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will not support Python 2 after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can ask for help.
 * The selectors  and   will no longer work in the Vector skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts.    should be replaced by  .   should be replaced by.

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DYK nomination of Christabel Oduro
Hello! Your submission of Christabel Oduro at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Sounder Bruce  03:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

"Revolt of the Angels" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Revolt of the Angels. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 16 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know, I have no preferences- I created it as a request many years back. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

B&H
Good to chat yesterday! Maybe at the next online meeting I will remember to log on via my laptop, which is equipped with a camera...! Just shout if you fancy any Brighton and Hove or general Sussex article collaborations, especially if there is DYK hook potential; I keep a lengthy file of potential DYK hooks for not-yet-written articles. Cheers, Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Good to chat and I'll let you know if I'm looking at any Sussex articles. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Couple of Chichester articles I created last week (and have nominated for DYK): St Andrew-in-the-Oxmarket Church, Corn Exchange, Chichester. If you have anything to add to them, it would be appreciated (no worries if not). And happy Sussex Day <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 11:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Belated greetings for Sussex Day! I've expanded both as far as possible using the newly published West Sussex edition of the Buildings of England series, fortunately bought not long before lockdown.  Cheers, <b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b> 5489 (Floreat Hova!)  18:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jitse Groen
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Weirdly it got 2k views on the day, but a massive spike of 10k viewd on 11 June. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 10:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Corn Exchange, Chichester
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Tagging of Cricket South Africa's Solidarity Cup
When you tag an article or other page for speedy deletion, please notify the creator or major editor of the page. The templates used for CSD tagging al include templates that can be copied for this purpose. Twinkle and other tools can automate this process. Thank you. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 05:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I usually do but my Twinkle was working (internet was being slow). <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 18:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Raymond Kipkoech
— Wug·a·po·des​ 22:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC) 12:01, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-26
<section begin="technews-2020-W26"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to CSS selectors.  should be replaced with   to fix this.

Changes later this week
 * The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 June. It will be on all wikis from 25 June (calendar).

Future changes
 * A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected.

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Can you help
Can you help me regarding your nomination for the deletion of Kerala Blasters Youth and Academy Shahoodu (talk) 09:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Youth teams aren't generally notable enough for articles, as there's not significant coverage of them. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 22:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Christabel Oduro
— Wug·a·po·des​ 00:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * do you know why there's 2 timestamps on this post? Is it a problem with your signature? <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 22:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well that's weird. I don't think so? My manually added signature seems to be working fine. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for St Andrew-in-the-Oxmarket Church
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 June 2020
<div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-27
<section begin="technews-2020-W27"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now.
 * Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Modern and Monobook skins use the ID  for the go button. This is   for Vector. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to   in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use  . You can read more and see a list of affected scripts.

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