User talk:Joseph2302/Archives/2020/November

DYK for Charlotte Taylor (cricketer)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 November 2020
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, although I would have contributed more but got busy. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-45
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects.
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the  parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g.  . Note that   is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
 * Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter).
 * The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information.

Future changes
 * A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of  when it is given a negative argument.
 * In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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Nomination of Éder dos Santos for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Éder dos Santos is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Éder dos Santos until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Spiderone 10:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks but in future, if I've been involved in a WT:FOOTY discussion about it recently, it'll be on my watchlist already, so no need for a notification. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:38, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Yogabrata
I saw you speedy tagged the page, you might want to add a note under that for the admin, I was thinking it might of been quicker to post to WP:ANI about that LinkedIn, Paypal, emails. The user probably would be blocked for that. Govvy (talk) 11:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ANI started Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:37, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Block me right now, I'm bored Yogabrata (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not like a lot of other websites, its also an engine-system with rules driven by its user base. One has to learn, cohabitate and adapt. You can't ignore others, you can't blindly edit without consequence. You either adapt to this digital climate, or you do something else. Govvy (talk) 13:15, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Absolutely, I understand. Thanks for guiding. But is it possible to delete my User page forever? Yogabrata (talk) 13:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-46
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested.
 * From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more.

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Your GA nomination of 2020 London Marathon
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2020 London Marathon you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 14:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2020 London Marathon
The article 2020 London Marathon you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2020 London Marathon for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-47
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Recent changes
 * Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more.

Changes later this week
 * If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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2020 Formula One World Championship
I see you've again reverted a good-faith edit, and used WP:BRD to justify that. I'd like to bring your attention to the following from that page:


 * BRD is not a valid excuse for reverting good-faith efforts to improve a page simply because you don't like the changes.
 * If you revert twice, then you are no longer following the BRD cycle.

My undo of the reversion was in part because it breaks WP:OWN:


 * Examples of ownership behaviour
 * An editor disputes minor edits concerning layout, image use, and wording in a particular article frequently.
 * An editor reverts a change simply because the editor finds it "unnecessary" without claiming that the change is detrimental.

I'm not sure why the F1 pages bring out so much of this kind of edit reversion. They're most certainly not welcoming.

-- AtomCrusher (talk) 16:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I have not reverted twice, whereas you have (one edit and one revert). And considering that you're the one pushing one point without agreement or discussion, I would argue you're the one with WP:OWN issues. Multiple row spanning causes MOS:ACCESS issues with screen readers, and so should be avoided. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * An edit and a revert do not equal two reverts, I'm not sure how you've combined those. You reverted the same change for a second time, and whether it's the same user doing it is irrelevant. I'm also not sure how you've tried to turn WP:OWN back to me, as I'm not one of the users who seems to jump on every account that wants to make minor layout changes to the page. Rowspan hasn't caused issues for screen readers since the mid-2000s, and WP's own guidelines acknowledge this. -- AtomCrusher (talk) 16:27, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

f1 2021 aston martin driver line up
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.confirmed-vettel-to-make-sensational-racing-point-switch-in-2021-as-they-re.2fFFG6zJLTZssQg9EBrA5H.html

That paved the way for Racing Point to announce Vettel – who won four consecutive championships with Red Bull between 2010 and 2013 - would be joining them, alongside Stroll, for their first season under the Aston Martin brand.'

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1659:3C00:C70:D2DA:9748:20AC (talk) 13:10, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * See Talk:2021 Formula One World Championship, that article is making an assumption that Stroll will race based on Stroll Sr running the team. We wait until it's officially announced by the Racing Point/Aston Martin team. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 13:12, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Isabelle Li
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Oops
Yeah, I left the Lux article in rather substandard conditions. Fortunately there are plenty of sources that I can use to fill it out. Thanks for reminding me. DS (talk) 16:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-48
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 * Timestamps in Special:Log are now links. They go to Special:Log for only that entry. This is how timestamps work on for example the history page.

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 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from 1 December. Unclaimed projects can be deleted from 1 January.

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ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message

 * I have voted no to everyone, if everyone does that then hopefully Arbcom can be disbanded. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Hello, I'm Joseph2302. Your recent edit(s) to the page User:Joseph2302 appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 12:46, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

December with Women in Red
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