User talk:Joseph2302/Archives/2023/August

Tech News: 2023-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Synchronizer tool is now available to keep Lua modules synced across Wikimedia wikis, along with updated documentation to develop global Lua modules and templates.
 * The tag filter on and revision history pages can now be inverted. For example, you can hide edits that were made using an automated tool.
 * The Wikipedia ChatGPT plugin experiment can now be used by ChatGPT users who can use plugins. You can participate in a video call if you want to talk about this experiment or similar work.

Problems
 * It was not possible to generate a PDF for pages with non-Latin characters in the title, for the last two weeks. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Tuesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 

MediaWiki message delivery 23:52, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 August 2023
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

"Crashtappen" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crashtappen&redirect=no Crashtappen] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. TartarTorte 19:53, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

"Crashstappen" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crashstappen&redirect=no Crashstappen] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. TartarTorte 19:53, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-32
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Mobile Web editors can now edit a whole page at once. To use this feature, turn on "" in your settings and use the "" button in the "" menu.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 

MediaWiki message delivery 21:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding honours and trophies
Hi I saw you are quite senior in this field of WP editing, I just want to ask you something regarding the rules. What is the consensus of adding honour list of a footballer? According to sources Messi has 43 trophies but some trophies are not there in the honour list of Messi because he was not in the match day squad. Same applies for Ronaldo also, according to sources he has 34(Maybe now 35 after winning the Arab cup) but couple of trophies are also taken away from him because of the same match day squad reason. Currently some disputes happened in Dany Alves WP page, please check the talk page also. Your comments would put some light on it, Thanks. Eduardo2024 (talk) 18:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi I don't think there's ever been a consensus at WT:FOOTY about this. Every time people mention "did player X win a trophy because they didn't play", it gets into a long argument and nobody seems to agree. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-33
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Content translation system is no longer using Youdao's machine translation service. The service was in place for several years, but due to no usage, and availability of alternatives, it was deprecated to reduce maintenance overheads. Other services which cover the same languages are still available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Future changes
 * A few gadgets/user scripts which add icons to the Minerva skin need to have their CSS updated. There are more details available including a search for all existing instances and how to update them.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 

MediaWiki message delivery 05:58, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 August 2023
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Splitting East Bengal Club
Hey, I'd like to initiate the split of the article but I have a few questions regarding how to do it as I've never done something similar before. Do we split the article and create a new article for the football club or do we create a new article for the sports club as the article is primarily concerned with the football club? Andkor1234 (talk) 11:37, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% sure, and I'm also not 100% sure of what content should be kept/removed, which is why I haven't done it myself. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Former or old logos
Hello. I've seen you've nominated a few former or old logos to FFD. If you'd care to, you can go through Category:Non-free former or old logos where probably most logos should be deleted. I made a mass nom of most of these logos a few years ago but it was denied since I didn't really review all the files. If I saw that it was a former or old logo, I nominated it, but I never really valuated if it violated NFCP or not. Jonteemil (talk) 00:30, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, will take a look at that when I get time. At the moment, I've just been nominating them as and when I find them, and looking for similar violations in related articles (e.g. there were a bunch of Qatari football teams that had loads of former logos). If there's some text about the logo history then it might meet WP:NFCC, but if there isn't any text about it, then it doesn't meet that criterion. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:32, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Jonteemil (talk) 10:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-34
<section begin="technews-2023-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The GDrive to Commons Uploader tool is now available. It enables securely selecting and uploading files from your Google Drive directly to Wikimedia Commons.
 * From now on, we will announce new Wikimedia wikis in Tech News, so you can update any tools or pages.
 * Since the last edition, two new wikis have been created:
 * a Wiktionary in Pa'O
 * a Wikisource in Sundanese
 * To catch up, the next most recent six wikis are:
 * Wikifunctions
 * a Wiktionary in Mandailing
 * a Wikipedia in Ghanaian Pidgin
 * a Wikinews in Gungbe
 * a Wiktionary in Kabardian
 * a Wikipedia in Fante

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is an existing stable interface policy for MediaWiki backend code. There is a proposed stable interface policy for frontend code. This is relevant for anyone who works on gadgets or Wikimedia frontend code. You can read it, discuss it, and let the proposer know if there are any problems.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2023-W34"/>

15:23, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

DYK for 2023 British Athletics Championships
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023 at Women in Red
--Victuallers (talk) 16:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Tech News: 2023-35
<section begin="technews-2023-W35"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the better diff handling of paragraph splits, improved detection of splits is being rolled out. Over the last two weeks, we deployed this support to group0 and group1 wikis. This week it will be deployed to group2 wikis.
 * Octicons-gift.svg All pages now show the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.
 * Wikisource users can now use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> label to denote Bengali currency characters as page numbers inside the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> tag.
 * Two preferences have been relocated. The preference "" is now shown on the "" tab at all wikis. Previously it was shown on the "" tab at some wikis. The preference "" is now also shown on the "" tab at all wikis, instead of the "" tab.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg New signups for a Wikimedia developer account will start being pushed towards idm.wikimedia.org, rather than going via Wikitech. Further information about the new system is available.
 * All right-to-left language wikis, plus Korean, Armenian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Bulgarian Wikipedias, will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener. This feature will come to more wikis in future weeks.

Future changes
 * The removal of the DoubleWiki extension is being discussed. This extension currently allows Wikisource users to view articles from multiple language versions side by side when the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> symbol next to a specific language edition is selected. Comments on this are welcomed at the phabricator task.
 * A proposal has been made to merge the second hidden-categories list (which appears below the wikitext editing form) with the main list of categories (which is further down the page). More information is available on Phabricator; feedback is welcome!

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2023-W35"/>

MediaWiki message delivery 13:58, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Attack on Sri Lankan team
For kind information, the attack on Sri Lankan team was not just anathor terrorist attack. It was 1st time that any cricket team was attacked by terrorist and fortunately its not happened again. I am writing this ans to you here because I know many are or will try to hide this dark histroy. We know terrorist attacks are a normal thing there but not for us. Whatever I wrote is in public domain, punished by English and Aus media. I wrot it, why it was not present before in that article?. I didn't wrote excessively, I just added highlights. Tesla car owner (talk) 10:31, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * A mention of these attacks are fine, writing a long, POV history about in an article about a different cricket tournament is not. We don't need quotes or pieces of text like "168 were violently murdered", as this is not WP:NPOV. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow man, your wonderful, you removed well sourced information for that article and you caused grammar errors also. Why you want to hide the truth from public? Do you know, how fatal was the Sri Lankan and Mumbai terrorist attack? why there is no mention, about India's view, why we don't want to play in that nation, who sponsor terrorists. Tesla car owner (talk) 10:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed clear Indian-bias WP:POV editing that didn't add anything to an article about a cricket tournament. There's still mentions of the attacks in the article, so stop accusing me of removing it. I don't want you to ever post on this talkpage again, as you are clearly not listening to me. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)