User talk:JoshFight

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Welcome!
Hi JoshFight, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Our intro page provides helpful information for new users—please check it out! If you have any questions, you can get help from experienced editors at the Teahouse. Happy editing! &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 15:49, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello JoshFight! Your additions to User:JoshFight/Josh fight have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


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Advice for talk pages
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that in the future, you should leave new comments at the bottom of the page when participating in a request for comment. Read the talk page guidelines if you haven't already, and have fun contributing to Wikipedia! &#123;&#123;u&#124; Bowler the Carmine &#125;&#125; (they/them &#124; talk) 14:09, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do.--JoshFight (talk) 08:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to AfD!
Greetings,, and welcome to Wikipedia's deletion process! Thank you for your contributions. As a newcomer, it may be helpful for you to read Wikipedia's deletion policy, and the pages describing the articles for deletion process, proposed deletion, and speedy deletion. Remember that deletion debates are not votes, and reasons matter, especially reasons relating to the central content policies of verifiability, neutral point of view, no original research, and what Wikipedia is not, and to the consensual community guidelines for biographies, corporations, music, and fiction. Also remember that deletion is not always the answer to a bad article. Feel free to drop me a line at my talk page if you have any questions. Again, welcome! Wizzito (talk) 22:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this, helpful. I believe that the Josh fight was verifiably true and was written from a reasonable, neutral point of view. JoshFight (talk) 08:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Please delete the "backup" article you copypasted
Hello. I'm here to kindly ask you to delete the page User:JoshFight/Josh fight. I'll explain why, so read through this section carefully.

That article is the copied text from the Josh fight article, and the only reason for doing so was to safekeep the article content in case it gets deleted. You publicly admit to this on that page's hatnote. Now, to clarify, what you've done does not violate any rules on Wikipedia or elsewise; you as a user are free to use your userspace however you want, as long as it's marginally associated with helping the Wikipedia project. Copying of Wikipedia material is also allowed, especially if done so internally. The problematic part, however, lies in the reason to why you've done this, to "preserve" the article in case of deletion. Deletion is a well-established process on this website, meaning all users are expected to respect and follow it. If an article gets deleted through consensus, then that decision is meant to be followed. The fact that you're expressingly making a "backup" is essentially an attempt to circumvent our processes, thus gaming the system in bad faith. Doing so makes me (and also anyone else discovering your actions) doubt whether you're here to build an encyclopedia or not. Further, note that Wikipedia is not a personal webhost where people can publish any material they like for the public to access. Also, simply copying the text from one location to another makes it hard to discern the contributors for the article's edits prior to that point, which actually does violate our rules.

Now, the deletion discussion in question ended without consensus, which means the original article stayed up - for now. But regardless of what would have happened, your attempt would likely not have been successful since it'd have gone directly against community decision. Deleted topics are deleted, regardless where on the site they happen to be. If the original article is deleted, your copy will deleted too whether you like it or not.

I hope you understand my point and how your action goes against the purpose of this website. I'm sure you are a reasonable person who want to help this website rather than thwart its goals🙂

If you agree with me, you may trigger deletion of the article by entering the text  to the top of it, which will cause its removal within a few hours. Thank you! Gaioa (T C L) 10:37, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi.


 * I actually added a lot, including dozens of additional references, and restructured it, adding an Aftermath section and subsections for the event's winner and the associated fundraisers, as well as potential future events. The original article has around twenty references, while mine has over sixty. I will alter it now to make it clear it is no longer a backup, but my idea for an expanded, more detailed version of the page on the main site. Thank you for your concern. JoshFight (talk) 12:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I suppose that's good. But... why don't you just work on the live version instead then? That way your hard work will actually be seen by the readers. Merging two pre-existing articles together is tedious and unnecessary. (Also, remember to indent your comments on talk pages with colons) Gaioa  (T C L) 13:12, 25 May 2021 (UTC)