User talk:Josh M. Myers

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Hi, I just learned how to create and edit pages yesterday at Howard University's Edit-A-Thon. I am wondering what I can do to make this article conform to the guidelines. What are the specific components that I need to improve?

(Josh M. Myers (talk) 14:39, 20 February 2015 (UTC))


 * I'd say there are two main issues: Firstly, despite MrX' improvements, the article could still do with more and better references. Of the current sources, the third is a press release, not a relable source subject to editorial oversight, the fourth only mentions the ASCAC in passing and doesn't write so much as a single sentence about it (and I don't see how what little it says about ASCAC is reflected in our article), the fifth is a book where we don't cite the book's content itself but the short author biography on given at the end - and while the authors may be reliable sources on education, I rather doubt we can consider them independent sources on their own biographies. Furthermore, I strongly suspect the second part of the article isn't really based on the cited sources; those only serve as window dressing to give it a veneer of verifiability without really backing up the content.
 * The other issue is the unduly promotional tone. For example, the second source says the ASCAC's mission "is for African peoples to educate other African peoples about their culture" (which is a rather vacuous statement); the Wikipedia article, however, claims it provides an opportunity for that - ie, that they succeed in their mission, which is something else entirely. As another example, the ASCAC is claimed to be devoted "to the rescue, reconstruction, and restoration of African history" - how does one "rescue history"? From what, time travelers? That's yet another vacuous statement that sounds great but ultimately provides no information at all. Huon (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and the explanations of Wikipedia's approach. Perhaps someone else should edit this. I dont believe it is worth my time to continue. It seems that the edit-a-thon I attended might have oversold us on the usefulness of having academics participate. I find it difficult to adhere to these standards of objectivity. Which I believe are equally vacuous.

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