User talk:Joshkang323

September 2021
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that in this edit to Lovy Elias, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 10:52, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Lovy Elias
Hello Joshkang323,

I can't help but notice you have a very strong interest in the Lovy Elias article. I also noticed you're new to Wikipedia. Welcome! But please make yourself aware of our policies and practices here, so that your future edits conform to them. Please review WP:BLP. Also please keep in mind that this project is an encyclopedia. It's not a magazine or a newsletter or another type of publication. Everything here MUST be reliably sourced independently or it is subject to immediately removal. It must also have encyclopedic merit. So, full quotes are generally excessive and unnecessary, and personal photos are generally not encyclopedic. Also, all photographs must be your own original work if you're uploading them for use on this project. You may not upload other people's photographs without us having their written releases on file. So please review WP:COPYRIGHT as well. Those concerns are taken extremely seriously here for legal reasons. There are also rules regarding either contributing to one's own article; being compensated to write someone else's article; and/or having an undisclosed relationship with the subject of an article - particularly biographies. So please be aware of those as well. If you have questions, you can always ask more experienced editors. Basically, there is much you can do here, but many things you can't. Please make yourself familiar with the rules so you aren't disappointed when another editor has to remove the content you worked so hard to include. Hope this helps. Thanks and happy editing! X4n6 (talk) 00:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for this information. Lovy Elias is someone I watch online. His page looked empty so I wanted to fill it up. I apologize for the guidelines I have broken. I redid what you reverted, left out the excessive quotes you spoke of and added in neutral information with the reference. Please let me know if this is also not to Wikiepdia's standards. Thanks for your patience and also your contribution to my work and also to whoever created the original wiki page. I appreciate it. Is there a guideline to using the founder section in the profile template? If so, please let me know if you can. -JK


 * Many thanks for your response. I appreciate your interest in his article. I also appreciate your willingness to contribute to this project. But as I said, it's in all our best interests if you just take a brief timeout to review the policies and guidelines first. Then once you understand our format, you can more confidently contribute. It'll save you time and other editors won't have to revert your edits until they conform. So again, as I said, there's much you can do here. Just be patient with yourself and learn how stuff has to be done. Don't feel the need to, as you said "fill it up" all at once. Good luck! X4n6 (talk) 01:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As for using the "Founder" line, while admittedly it's a judgment call, frankly it just comes off as pretentious here. Many pastors start storefronts or other smaller churches. Calling each of them a "founder" is a bit much. Since he's known for this church, just saying "known for" seems more than sufficient and much more neutral and encyclopedic. X4n6 (talk) 01:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Gotcha. I will take your advice on this. Thank you. -JK


 * Also, as I said on the article's talk page, Next Dimension University really is unaccredited, despite what the LA Sentinel says. Just look on their own website: https://nextdimensionuniversity.com/. There's no evidence of accreditation, faculty, faculty credentials or even administration. So unless we have that, unfortunately, the Sentinel isn't a strong enough reliable source to keep that claim. Also, to sign your comments in future, you can just use 4 consecutive tilde symbols "~". The system will automatically do the rest. X4n6 (talk) 01:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Well noted. Thank you for your correction.

https://nextdimensionschooloftheology.org/index.php/accreditation/ https://www.n-b-c-a.com/ Would this be considered a reliable source?
 * Please look carefully. Those are for the "Next Dimension School of Theology" in Brooklyn, NY - not the "Next Dimension University" in Rancho Cucamonga (Los Angeles), CA. X4n6 (talk) 03:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I am an idiot. Thanks.
 * No worries. That's why they put erasers on pencils. Also please look at your source for Maggy Soas. I appreciate your effort in trying to find a source, so I thanked you. But if you read it, nowhere does it say she's Elias's wife, or even mention him. Nor does she use his surname, or even a hyphenated last name. X4n6 (talk) 03:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a plenty, I appreciate you. Yes, I had another source as well... but it is for an event so wasnt sure if youd accept it. I put it in as reference. It shows a list of married people speaking at the event. I believe they don't share surname. I am sure if I looked hard enough I can find a video of him talking about his wife...
 * I saw that 2nd source too. Unfortunately, that one doesn't clearly state they're married either. Just that they are the "Special Guests" at the event. Again, a word to the wise, try not to be so hasty and just throw anything up. Pump the brakes! Be sure to check it yourself in its entirety before posting. Make sure the sources say exactly what you claim they do. Also, please review WP:RS, so you can see that not all sources are created equally. Some are good, but many aren't. For example, you usually can't post YouTube video links. Please see WP:YOUTUBE. And please remove those two sources until you've found some that actually say she's his wife. Then please add that edit into the Personal life section, not just the Infobox. Thanks again. X4n6 (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Noted, will do.
 * Thanks again. X4n6 (talk) 04:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

You too, much love.
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA X4n6 (talk) 04:05, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

LOL xD

Ida is no longer Lovy's spouse. https://unicourt.com/case/ca-la23-longomba-lovy-vs-longomba-ida-70322#:~:text=On%2006%2F16%2F2017%20LONGOMBA,status%20is%20Pending%20%2D%20Other%20Pending.

I've edited out your edit if that is fine. Thanks! -JK

, as you know, I've given you tutorials to review on how to edit constructively on this project. I've also been patient and tried to be helpful. So frankly, it's a bit disappointing to see that you don't appear to have reviewed the materials I gave you. You simply cannot remove sourced information - especially with no explanation - just because you may know better. Please review WP:VERIFY. It is a fundamental policy of this project and will get you in a world of hassle from other editors if you continue to violate it. Persistently violating it is actually the kind of thing that will get your account blocked and prevent you from editing at all. It's that serious. So it's in your best interests, not to continue to ignore the rules of this project. As for the article, the place to point out they are divorced isn't on your talk page. It's within the article, with your reliable source. Again, please click on this link and review the rules on reliable sources. Also, just because they aren't married now, doesn't mean they never were. She's his EX wife AND the mother of his child. So she MUST be included in the article as such.

Which brings us to another, bigger issue that we now have to contend with. It seems pretty clear by now that the only reason you are editing on this project is to work on this one article and articles on this one topic. That poses another significant concern. Please read WP:SPA. The question becomes if you are here to improve this encyclopedia, or if you're here just to forward your own opinions regarding this article and related ones. Because that is unacceptable and would also get you blocked from working on the project at all. I cannot stress this point enough. Please be sure you're here for acceptable reasons and let your edits show that very clearly. But for now, and this is the second time I'm asking, please take a timeout from editing altogether until you have read how editing is done here and are prepared to follow at least the basic policies and guidelines. You'll find editors are happy to help you at the beginning, but will become impatient very quickly if it becomes clear that you're stubbornly continuing to do things your own way after repeated requests to try to follow the procedures. That also includes everything from giving explanations for your edits in articles' edit summaries, to properly signing all your posts on this and every other page where you write comments. Thanks. X4n6 (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * It's also likely my fault that I didn't give you all these resources sooner, rather than just giving them to you in piecemeal fashion. So let me correct that now. Here's everything you need to know in one place. Please see WP:HOW. And read the sections below. They're all really easy to read and understand. They should help you a lot. X4n6 (talk) 11:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for the info. The information you updated is outdated, which is why I made the edits.