User talk:Joshlane441

April 2018
Hello, I'm Kosack. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Sam Allardyce, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Kosack (talk) 05:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mortal Kombat XI
Hello Joshlane441,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mortal Kombat XI for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

 Onel 5969  TT me 14:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

How to write articles that won't get deleted
If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything that is not you or something you are connected to, here are the steps you should follow:
 * 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
 * 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this.  Also, while search engine resutls are tnot sources, they are where you can find sources.  Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.  Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
 * 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion.

If you are writing about yourself, or someone or something you are connected with (such as a friend, family member, or your business), the following steps are different:
 * 1) If the subject really was notable, you wouldn't need to write the article. Remember that articles are owned by the Wikipedia community as a whole, not the article subject or the article author.  If you do not want other people to write about you, then starting an article about yourself is a bad idea.
 * 8a) If the article is accepted, never edit it again. Instead, make edit requests on the article's talk page.
 * 8b) If the article is rejected, there will be a reason given. Read it carefully and closely.  If there are links in the reason, open them and read those pages. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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Regarding your attempt at a Mortal Kombat XI article
We already have an article on the topic, Mortal Kombat 11, which you clearly know because you copied that article wholesale. There are plenty of big problems with this:
 * That's not how you rename articles (and articles use the name most commonly used in sources anyway -- and the trailer at 1:50 says "Mortal Kombat 11").
 * When you copy content from one article to another, you need to attribute the previous editors -- see Copying within Wikipedia.
 * The citations you tried to add were unacceptably incomplete and impossible to read. What did Earnest Cavalli write and where was it published?  How do you expect us to believe your citation for a game that hasn't been released yet?

I'm redirecting the page instead of deleting it.

Ian.thomson (talk) 16:03, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I used this as my evidence for xi most of the stuff I took from mortal kombat x but it's obvious it will use ue4 and that gameinformer article is the reason I call it XI
https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/12/07/mortal-kombat-xi-will-have-character-variations-new-story-full-reveal-in-january Joshlane441 (talk) 16:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:No original research is why we don't use what's "obvious" to any editor. Our article on the sky has four citations to say that it's blue.
 * The trailer itself, Kotaku, Polygon, GameSpot, and IGN said 11. I found those looking for "XI" because I am used to seeing them use Roman numerals as well. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

How is it gonna make sense on wiki to have mkx and now mk11 hopefully they change it but I've found just as many sites that refer to it as xi I think it's more of a country sorta thing
 * It's not the first game to use Indo-Arabic numerals: Mortal Kombat 3 and Mortal Kombat 4 did. Really, only Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat X used Roman numerals. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:30, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm aware of that but it just seems awkward to now have to put in the numbers instead of the roman numerics also do me a favour and put this info into the engine it uses in the mkxi one it won't let me. Unreal engine 4 I have a reference for it but it shows an error when i try to save
 * If you're talking about the reference you tried to cite here, here are the problems:
 * -You only cited the author's first and last name (without a title, publisher, page number, web address, or something that would allow one to actually find the source). You can't just cite some guy, it has to be a published source.
 * -You tried to add it as part of a group that doesn't exist in the article. Just use plain ref tags like without the name.
 * Ian.thomson (talk) 16:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Wait, no, I'm seeing another problem: you were just copying the ref used in the Mortal Kombat X article to say that it uses the Unreal engine. Do you seriously not see the problem with citing an older source about a completely different product, that is not about the new game at all? Ian.thomson (talk) 16:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Nope I'm talking about a reference to mkxi legitimately using ue4 that I was about to add but u re directed my page before I could save it.
 * Read WP:OWN and add it to the Mortal Kombat 11 page... Ian.thomson (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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