User talk:Joshua Hayes

August 2020
Hello Joshua Hayes. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:The Invisible Class, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Joshua Hayes. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 07:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi folks. I'm not entirely if this is how to respond to the previous message. If it is, I wanted to state that I'm not compensated directly or indirectly to write the article about The Invisible Class.
 * from Josh Hayes
 * If you are the same Josh Hayes as directed the film then I cannot see how you do not have a financial stake in its success? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC) :: Not sure if I'm replying correctly. The film isn't sold, it's free and it's given to homeless service providers and schools, to help educate people about the systemic causes of homelessness. In fact, it actually goes the other. Homeless service providers can use the film to get food, clothing and shelter donations, as well as financial donations. Also volunteers and mailing list signups. We don't get anything financially.|talk]])

@Curb Safe Charmer: Hi folks. Sorry perhaps I'm showing my ignorance here of how Wikipedia works. So first, I am absolutely the Director/Editor of the film Josh Hayes. I thought that was clear, sorry. Secondly, when the question was asked am I being paid to write this directly or indirectly (I'm assuming that means being gifts or something) to write the article, I'm not. It gets filed under other 5000 hours (or god knows how many) I work unpaid on my own film. 3rd. We don't charge for the film. In fact we often use it to raise funds for homeless service providers. We're a nonprofit and we're nowhere near making a profit on our 11 year filmmaking journey and our now trying to release the film journey. We do however as a nonprofit accept donations, so if they come our way we'll take them. We hope to get enough to afford subtitles, closed captioning, maybe insurance for the film eventually, etc. but that hasn't happened yet. But I supposed that could be considered a profit? However I of course would be glad to disclose that I wrote the article and thought I was doing so my using my real name as my username instead of a more fun name. Please advise in what I'm supposed to do. Frankly I'm just trying make it easier for homeless service providers to find us.

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Invisible Class (October 22)
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~Kvng (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:The Invisible Class
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)