User talk:Joshua Tree Desert/sandbox

Draft discussion
A couple of things about the draft:


 * Books should be correctly referenced, not just by ISBN. here's an example:
 * Similarly, we want to avoid "raw" references and link rot, so please convert the existing ones to proper citations. I've converted some with an automatic tool, but there's bound to be more that need work
 * Surprisingly enough there is actually such a thing as "over-referencing". There's no need to use four or five citations when one will suffice - pick the "best" and discard the others (where appropriate)
 * The "Publications" section should also be in citation format (using the markup I included above, but without a " " enclosure. See for example the same section in this article
 * Please take care to correctly source statements like Kidpower programs are known for being positive, practical, safe and age-appropriate. Positive assertions like those should be explicitly in the given source, otherwise they should be removed or re-worded. This reduces the chances of anyone considering the article to be advertising or overly positive (as opposed to neutral!)

Other than that, there are some minor cosmetic issues. For example, spacing between reference tags that looks like this [1] [2][3] [4] instead of this: [1][2][3][4]

With a great deal of additional help from Startrek92, I believe that all of the references have been properly cited now - can you please review the draft again? We have also edited to ensure they are aligned properly, as you mentioned.

Resipsanfriget (talk)
 * With the Publications section, these are a subset of the publications produced by Irene van der Zande in her role as Kidpower founder & executive director that have also been reviewed or referenced in outside sourced articles - they are not reference publications for the article as is the example you provided. So it seems odd to list them in bibliography format. All of the ref links are now properly cited as well. Do you still think they need conversion to Citation format?
 * The sentence you referred to above was referenced at the end of that paragraph. We have added the same ref to both sentences now - is that the proper way to do this to provide clarity about the reference?
 * As for over-referencing - perhaps that is a byproduct of the former criticisms of the page. It seems like it's better to write a paragraph and put the multiple references at the end? Or is it better to add each reference at the end of each sentence it refers to? Your advice on further editing to make this article ready for a publication review is most appreciated!  Thank you so much for your help.


 * My apologies for missing this! I must have not seen the notification. I think we're ready to go with this, just waiting for a reply to my email via OTRS. You guys did a great job. § FreeRangeFrog croak 20:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)