User talk:Jossi

There are at least two kinds of games.

One could be called finite, the other infinite.

The finite game is played for the purpose of winning, and thereby ending the game.

An infinite game for the purpose of continuing the play ... and bringing as many persons as possible into the play.

Finite players play within boundaries; infinite players play with boundaries.

Finite players are serious; infinite games are playful.

Finite players try to control the game, predict everything that will happen, and set the outcome in advance. They are serious and determined about getting that outcome. They try to fix the future based on the past.

Infinite players enjoy being surprised. Continuously running into something they didn't know will ensure that the game will go on. The meaning of the past changes depending on what happens in the future.

All games are inherently voluntary. There might be consequences of not playing, but there is always a choice required. There are certain rules and boundaries that appear to be externally defined, and you choose to follow them or not. If you stop following them you aren't playing the game any longer.

There is no rule that says you have to follow the rules, and there is no rule that says you have to play. If you have to play, you cannot really play.

All finite games have rules. If you follow the rules you are playing the game. If you don't follow the rules you aren't playing.

Infinite players play with rules and boundaries. They aren't taking them serious, and they can never be trapped by them, because they use rules and boundaries as part of their playing.

Players can do what they do seriously, because they must do it, because they must survive to the end, and are afraid of the consequences of not playing or not winning. Or, players can do everything they do playfully, always knowing they have a choice, having no need to survive the way they are, allowing every element of the play to transform them, taking pleasure in every surprise they meet. Those are the differences between finite and infinite players.

You can play finite games within an infinite game. You can not play infinite games within a finite game.

There is only but one infinite game.

Paraphrased from James P. Carse, Finite and infinite games: A Vision of Life in Play and Possibility 

≈ jossi ≈ (talk)

[Unsure if you wish for messages on your talk page; if you don't, please remove at your leisure.] Very sorry to see you leave, Jossi. I fully respect your decision to retire, but do know that I would be very happy to see you make a return to actively contributing at some point. My very best, AGK 10:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As would I. I disagreed with some of your decisions, but think you have much to offer the community and the Project. Don't let some sour grapes disinterest you - make grappa! :) - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  15:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to see you leave the project; you were a valuable asset to this community. Best wishes, seicer  &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  00:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Your actions were benevolent, reasoned and always truthful, in my mind; it is a surprise that you departed so suddenly. It is a real shame you have left. Good luck. Caulde  00:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * (As above, please move or remove this message at your discretion if you don't want it here.) I can't say we always got along, but I certainly always was glad to see you in a difficult situation. Best of luck to you, wherever that great infinite game takes you. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am very sorry to see you go. When I was a newbie you were extraordinarily kind and patient with me and I greatly appreciated it.  Best of luck to you!  Renee (talk) 13:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm a bit thick sometimes. So, hum, real life is the only infinite game, wikipedia is a finite game. Since wikipedia is a finite game, at some point in wikipedia's game you stop running into surprising stuff that you didn't know about, and players wind up being being trapped by wikipedia's rules, being afraid of consequences of not "winning", etc. Text between lines: wikipedia ougth to be an infinite game, but it's not. Did I get it right? --Enric Naval (talk) 14:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Close, Enric ...


 * Look at it this way, collaboration is the antithesis of winning. Players in a game can be focused in terminating the game by winning or by declaring once side as the loser. In collaboration, all players are focused intently in keeping the game going.


 * Wikipedia is indeed a finite game, but has embodied many traits of an infinite game. For example, there is WP:IAR: If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it., i.e. if a rule prevents the game to continue, ignore it. The challenge is, thought, as Wikipedia grows in importance, authority, and reach, it's basic principles of collegial collaboration, civility, anybody can edit, free content, and neutral point of view (WP:FIVE) are  being challenged by more traditional forces, which I would call routinization. This routinization is visible in the quite large body of policies, guidelines, manuals of style, etc. that has developed as well as the processes developed to keep the game going: Arbitration, Administrators, Page protection, Bans, Blocks etc. (Note that I am not judging that to be good or bad, simply stating a fact: after all I was quite involved in these aspects myself. )


 * As soon as these routinizing aspects begin consuming too many resources — and in WP the only resource is volunteer time (besides $$ needed to run the servers and keep a small staff) — the purpose of the game begin to be lost: Rather than build new articles, improve new ones, expand the number of players, encourage participation, etc. the most experienced people and those with most time, tend to spend their wiki-time in areas that limit play. I am not arguing that these tasks are not needed; they are. Only that over time, the fundamental principles of Wikipedia get lost or constrained in such a manner that it impinges in these principles and may eventually lead to terminating play.  As an editor that invested quite a bit of time in that area, I am aware of the dichotomy it presents and the challenges in bridging it.


 * Another challenge is when players try to bring about other games into Wikipedia than Wikpiedia's own. Players try and transpose the games they have chosen to play IRL, into this project. That is why we have WP:BATTLE, the other side of WP:WRW. Just witness the ongoing political, scientific, religious, and other such disputes that have been developing over the last years (check WP:RFAR/C for a good sample), and the many efforts by the community to overcome these challenges. A notable point is that in almost every arbitration case (with some notable exceptions), the result is the imposition of restrictions to participate fully in the game ... "in order to continue playing, you are now restricted from playing", an obvious contradiction.


 * So, as long as there are editors that will do everything possible to keep the game going, and do that with such grace and diligence that does not result in restricting play, Wikipedia may have a chance. But if these editors that are intent in winning the game at the expense of keeping the playing going, become those that steer the project forward, then it may not. My opinion is that Wikipedia is at that cross-road. The new Arbitration committee, which IMO has more diversity than ever before, as well as having people that I admire for the brilliance of their minds and the generosity of their hearts, may be the ones tasked to see this through, that is if they managed to bring the community around to support their efforts when exploring these challenges.


 * Per Carse, it boils down to choice If you have to play, you cannot play. It seems that those that want to win the game, are usually those that feel compelled to play it, and are those that play it too seriously for their own good. And those that want to keep the game going are usually those that edit with a smile on they face, enjoying the game, bringing new players to the game and expanding the possibility of play.


 * So, my decision to retire is based on that choice: because I can. I said this without judgment of other players: I wish them wisdom in their own choices, playfulness in their play, and my best.


 * Happy New Year,


 * ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm happy that you are not retiring because of bitterness. Myself, I'm staying if only because I can't resist seeing all the process first hand, you know, watching train crashes in slow motion :) I don't understand everything that you say, but I'll take your comments and try to be more playful on my editing. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Although I'm only seeing your edits now after you have left I'm also sorry to see you go and hope you reconsider in due course. You may be happy to know that I'm making some progress with COI reform (one small step at a time), for example WP:NPA and WP:WHYCOI. Perhaps you would consider helping out with such things, if not involving yourself in editing as such. In particular you and I share the view of volunteer time being a precious resource while 1's and 0's are a commodity, and I hope to "leverage" my contributions by trimming back some of the areas where time is wasted (e.g. 50k AfDs over 5k articles). Would you consider helping me write an essay on "respect for human time" or similar? -- samj in out 13:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Vaya con Dios
Hasta luego, amigo. If I may be so bold, I hope that you made your decision to leave for the sake of your own spiritual health and not in the hopes of influencing Wikipedia. Because even a token participation here on your part would be infinitely more helpful than leaving. But if you left because you felt that continued participation was not in the best interests of your continued spiritual growth then I am with you, brother. I will hang in, though. Best Holiday Wishes. --Justallofthem (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

--Take care dude, don't neglect your video games and remember to have crazy fun on the weekends. tilda tilda tilda tilda —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mortello (talk • contribs) 07:32, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Best wishes
I'm sorry to see that your positive experiences with Wikipedia were overtaken by negative ones. I too am very sorry to see you leave. Perhaps time away will allow you to come to terms with how things turned out. If that itch to contribute to Wikipedia ever comes back, a good way to regain your joy of contribution might be to look over your earliest contributions and follow along the path to where you realized that this is where you wanted to be. Best wishes. -- Suntag  ☼  16:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry to see you go and an appology
Dear Jossi,

So sad to see you go! Whenever I would see your name enter a discussion, over and over again, I relaxed, here was a wikipedian with knowledge and fairness!

I am also writing to apologize. When I read the register article, I accepted it as mostly accurate, without taking the time to really look at the facts and participated in the Prem Rawat arbitration, casting my voice against you.

I truly and deeply appologize for not trusting my experience with you and casting my opinion with a questionable source, and not taking the time to really investigate and form my own opinion.

Hope wiki-retirement is treating you well.

Warmly, Hohohahaha (talk) 16:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you.
Your work will last for long time. Levels_of_competence is very simple, yet one of the more beautiful pages about the project. +sj + 05:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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Documentation of sockpuppet investigation - where's the evidence?
Considering that this user retired back near the end of 2008 and never made any contributions after that, why is he/she indefinitely blocked as a "sockpuppet master"? Was the user allowed to defend itself? Why was no documentation provided? Note that I've opened up a thread about this here: Wikipedia talk:CheckUser. II | (t - c) 19:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I replied at that thread. --Enric Naval (talk) 19:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The use of an alternate account was an evasion of the remedy in Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat 2, and also had the effect of evading scrutiny, and so it was a violation of WP:SOCK.   Will Beback    talk    02:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * No evidence in that case was presented regarding lingering disputes. How far do we have to dig to get a straight answer here? Does this basically amount to "before you come back, check in with us so we can slap you on the wrist"? Jossi is getting banned for that kind of process wankery? You guys are better than this. -- Ned Scott 12:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you look at Pergamino's edits, you'll see that he was intentially deceptive about his knowledge of Wikipedia and his favorite topic. Further, Pergamino started editing while there was an active RFAR in which Jossi would have been a party if he hadn't "retired". So the use of the sock was not only deceptive, but it served to evade ArbCom sanctions. Regarding the sock investigation, checkuser results are never released, so that's nothing unusual. The ArbCom itself made the call, not just a functionary or admin. See the notes at User talk:Pergamino. There's also evidence of past sockpppet use.      Will Beback    talk    18:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If Jossi was thrown in as a party of the second arb case it would be very unlikely that any scansions on him would have been this severe. It's so easy to piss on good editors of the past and make them out to be villains, what with their deceptive and evil intentions. If I were to just speculate I would say that Jossi did this to avoid all the BS and get back to improving actual articles. It wouldn't excuse the violation of the arbcom case, sure, but it puts things into perspective. It sickens me to see editors treated like this. The taboo of the sockpuppet seems to trump all rational logic. -- Ned Scott 05:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Why would you speculate? All of Wikipedia administration is against Jossi now? He broke the rules, he got spanked like he knew he would if he got caught, where's the issue here? -- Mael e fique (t a lk)|undefined 05:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's pretty startling that even now nobody can point me to a sockpuppet investigation page where a Checkuser publicly confirmed the evidence of sockpuppeting, with some diffs. Can you point me to the page? Why are you so against public evidence? II  | (t - c) 05:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Checkuser investigations are routinely done without posting an investigation, and in many SPIs the only feedback is "confirmed". I'm not sure what other evidence is required beyond checkuser, but I assume the ArbCom could be contacted directly with legitimate inquiries.    Will Beback    talk    05:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In User talk:Pergamino, the first comment is by User:Rlevse saying that he had checkusered the user, and then the Arcom clerk User:Tiptoety said that he had also seen some of the evidence and that he confirmed the basis for the block.
 * Also notice that the other sock User:Sepho said that he had communicated the identity of his main to an arbcom member, and that 8 hours later Arbcom member User:Stephen Bain (bainer) declined his unblock request saying that it was not a legitimate usage of an alternative account. --Enric Naval (talk) 10:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I suggest contacting them about what evidence they found and how convincing it was and why. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems likely that Jossi was using those sockpuppets inappropriately. But the problem is that the standard practice on Wikipedia is to use evidence which is not collected and organized systematicallym and sockpuppet ban templates which do not point to the evidence, so it's a huge hassle to find out when the sockpuppet verdict was a mistake, and only insiders know what happened. That's not sustainable, and it is a very cabal-like practice. II  | (t - c) 17:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Simply put: No.  Checkuser evidence is private to protect the privacy of everyone involved.  Even if there were an SPI page opened, you'd have no more information than a confirmed template on the page and a note acknowledging that the accounts were blocked: exactly what is available here.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 10:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Your underlying premise is that diffs and supporting evidence beyond a "Checkuser" confirmation are unnecessary, or that the public doesn't need to see this supporting evidence. Simply put: that's absurd. Plenty of people edit from the same locations in the same topics. Sockpuppet case investigation pages present the evidence (diffs), which are otherwise difficult to track down. They should be opened in any major case just to allow people to look for the evidence themselves. Also, the argument that this is to defend the accused's privacy seems weak. Sockpuppet investigation case pages do not violate the accused's privacy. The accused always benefits from some due process and transparency, as do we all. II  | (t - c) 16:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you have a problem with the policy itself, then I would suggest that the correct place to have this discussion would be here or  here. It would seem inappropriate to have this discussion on any user's talkpage unless there is something special about this user's ban. Are you posting on every user talkpage of confirmed sockpuppeteers? It would seem you haven't even attempted to discuss your views on checkuser confirmation on any policy pages yet, though that is the logical place to start. Also, you're assuming we only have the checkuser results to rely on, even though on the  Sockpuppet investigations page we have this, "CheckUser does not solve cases. It provides additional evidence of a technical nature that can be considered along with behavioral evidence, and may help clarify whether misuse has taken place". I would think that if you really wanted to improve this process you would do so from the policy pages where the involved admins already are, and not rely on whoever wanders past this page. -- Mael e fique (t a lk)|undefined 18:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you miss the in the opening paragraph (Wikipedia talk:CheckUser)? I would prefer to discuss this in the policy area, but there were statements here that I wanted to respond to. See Wikipedia talk:CheckUser. II  | (t - c) 19:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So we should cut and paste this *entire* discussion to the appropriate talk pages instead of cluttering up userspace, is that what you're recommending? Seems entirely appropriate to me too. Would you think Sock puppetry or Sockpuppet investigations is best? Or possibly to one, with a note on the other linking it? -- Mael e fique (t a lk)|undefined 19:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know about copy/pasting...the sockpuppet investigations (SPI) page is, I guess, a subpage of the sockpuppetry policy page, but the SPI page probably has a more traffic and therefore more people watching it. Right now it's sort of in Checkuser. I don't know how controversial this is. I dropped a notice over at WT:SPI. II  | (t - c) 19:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the basis for this dispute is. Is there any doubt that Pergamino was a sock of Jossi's? Has Jossi denied it or complained about the process? I don't believe so. I think his silence is an implicit agreement with the finding.    Will Beback    talk    20:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My impression is that retired users don't check their Wikipedia watchlist every couple days, or sometimes even at all. People move on with their lives. In the mess above there's some decent evidence that Pergamino was Jossi, but there's still no link to the initial request for Checkuser, what the basis was, ect. The link you provided (Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat 2) had zero evidence - it was circular (Jossi is banned because [see log of his block]). The most convincing evidence is from Enric, who said that one of the socks basically admitted to being Jossi in an email. II  | (t - c) 21:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that mail was sent July last year and has nothing to do with more recent events.  JN  466  23:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

CU evidence is private. Arbcom gets reports/requests/etc of all sorts everyday. If a CU is justified, an CU check will be run, as was the case here. These are called 'private CUs' and happen all the time. The requirement for a CU is that the evidence presented meet CU requirements. An SPI report may or may not be filed. It is place to collect most sock reports. Arbcom handles a lot of private matters and we can not, nor do we need to, file an SPI when we get a report/request. In this Jossi case at hand, we hand on wiki evidence, private correspondence, and a CU check. All together a very solid case for socking was shown, plus Jossi did not notify us as required by the arbcom ruling. I can post the onwiki public evidence here if someone is interested.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 20:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is better discussed over at the thread I started or its subthread (Wikipedia talk:CheckUser). The question is - why do these requests need to be private? Are there any rules which "the community" can read governing how these private discussions go? And why can't ArbCom file an SPI? But please don't answer these questions here. II  | (t - c) 21:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for File:Casabella 471.jpg
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Orphaned non-free image File:Concierto aranjuez .jpg
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MfD nomination of Conflict of interest/Noticeboard
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Thanksfrom
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Fair use rationale for File:Marzeah_Papyrus-hi.jpg
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Speedy deletion nomination of Advaitanand Ji


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Nomination for deletion of Template:List fact
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Proposed deletion of Rob Preece


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File:Skeleton diag.png listed for discussion
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Protection msg
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MfD nomination of User talk:163.150.225.201/Archive 1
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Proposed deletion of File:Gutemberg canon.png


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Proposed deletion of File:Bodoni book.png


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Proposed deletion of File:Rider-Waite-Smith deck.png


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"Aspirare" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat: Contentious topic designation removed
Hello ,

As a very late update to the Prem Rawat arbitration case, the contentious topic designation, previously "discretionary sanctions", originally "article probation", has been removed following a successful request for amendment.

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This notification may be mostly unnecessary, but as you had been a party to the original case, I thought you might be interested in hearing that after about 15 years, this remnant has been removed. Until today, it was listed at.

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