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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Croatian military personnel in Ottoman armies


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I was 5 min late
Joy, :-) I just realized that we already have Category:People of the Ottoman Empire of Croatian descent.-- ౪ Santa ౪ 99°  18:57, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello
I received a notification with my name in it showing that I would be blocked. Why? Why I would be blocked from contributing to Wikipedia? jeromeenriquez

Nomination of Čerčan for deletion
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"Partisan reprisal killings" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Elections in Croatia before independence
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Hi Joy
Can you check these sources[] from Ip 216.8.128.225, i don't want to change anything maybe Admin Drmies is right. Thank you.93.136.28.101 (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

"Former Yugoslavia" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Theonewithreason
Thanks for indirectly bringing me to notice what the user was doing instead of participating in the discussion. I doubt the reporting is solely their doing because happened too fast probably to stop me from starting the RfC, differs from their style and editing capacity, and even made such remarks about me. It seems I'm still target of Serbian editors trio including Amanuensis Balkanicus and Sadko becauce of my insistence to NPOV. AB was informed about it and if you missed or forgot check admin Peacemaker67's comments from a year ago: "appears to be another in a series of reports from Serbian POV editors against Croatian POV editors, all while both sides claim they are being NPOV... It is as weak as the others, and adds to a disturbing trend of Serbian POV editors trying to get rid of Croatian POV editors from en WP" and "Given their prompt appearance to support each other on diverse articles across many time periods of the Balkans, I have no doubt that there is some serious off-Wiki coordination going on betwen these editors".--Miki Filigranski (talk) 19:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of postal codes in Montenegro


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Re:Government-in-exile again
Thanks for the explaination/Hvala na objašnjenju! Ostavio sam komentar na SZR. Lijepo te pozdravlja, Koreanovsky (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

"Empyrean (Warhammer)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Imotsko Polje moved to draftspace
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Nomination for merger of Template:BLP primary sources
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Hi Joy. Question about the Tomislav of Croatia article
Hello Joy. Hope all is well. I have a question about illustrations of kings in articles. For example for the Tomislav of Croatia just a few days ago there was a brief back and forth over removing or keeping the picture illustration of King Tomislav I. I restored it as I don’t get the reasoning of why the image of a king from a 1000 years ago is inappropriate? I came to you as I know you have experience with Croatian history articles and Wikipedia criteria. Your help would be great. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Noticeboard
Whether you're involved or not, I suspect that you're interested. Uncle G (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

Further to that: Is there any chance of you starting a talk page discussion? List the sources cited in the edit war, and start a discussion of whether and how they are problematic or best used? From Special:Diff/1081169519 it would seem that you have views more imaginative than simply the usual "Ethnicity A[1][2][3][4][5][6]" versus "Ethnicity B[1][2][3][4][5][6]" one-word-in-the-first-sentence-of-the-article silliness. Lurkers with imaginative views: the same. Uncle G (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Isthmus
Thanks, at the time I couldn't even remember what it was called in Croatian :) Daß Wölf 04:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement
22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

You have over 100,000 edits, why aren't you autopatrolled?
People who can write good articles should get autopatrol. The NPP queue is bad enough as it is. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  13:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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Milan Tepić
Hi. There is a problem with the article Milan Tepić where the sources are deleted. Editor user:Amanuensis Balkanicus has requested [] that the site be protected and is now protected so that it can no longer be edited. Again, the User Ранко Николић vandalizes and deletes reliable sources []. Here is the editing history []. I hope they look at you and solve the problem. Thanks89.172.92.112 (talk) 17:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi Joy, I just wanted to let you know that I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&page=User%3AJoy added] the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing!  Schwede 66  21:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Petrovići
I just noticed this. Why change the direct link to a redirect? I've gone with this which gives both spellings. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 03:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

VTE
Pozdrav, Joy. Hello. Let me do something about THIS: I'd like to find a better place for it because that one letter V looks like a template glitch when it's standing alone at the bottom of the graph. What say you? Ponor (talk) 13:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Report IP
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Recent manor edits on Croatia
There have been a lot of edits that seems to be a bit weird and make the article less concise. Could you take a look at the removed content? Edits such as removing “of Croatia” or “Croatia” from a lot of places, perhaps looking to remove repetition, but don’t seem to make sense just remove context in the greater paragraph. I don’t understand the reasoning. For example the “Croatian Dialects” image where Croatia was removed and it was just map of dialects and Bosnia. If you could take a look it would be appreciated. A second opinion. These edits seem bigger than simply grammar and may need proofreading. Cheers OyMosby (talk) 20:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Right, but I was hoping for a second opinion on the edits side from myself. I figured you would be a good person to turn to given you have edited on the pages before. OyMosby (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Deletion review for Hrvatska metropola
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Remete
Hi Joy, red links have different guidelines in DAB pages and articles. I unlinked Remete, Zagreb according to MOS:DABRED - Remete isn't linked in Maksimir, so it's a MOS:DABMENTION. That's easily changed, of course, but I wasn't sure if Remete, Zagreb is notable, so I didn't link it myself. Leschnei (talk) 13:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Familiar with this issue?
Hey again Joy. Are you familiar with this user or this issue? I am Not aware with any controversy with the intro. Do you have any input on whether the original intro I restored or their revised intro is more accurate? I would think that Dalmatia being a part of Croatia today would make it relevant in relation to the country today. Seems weird to remove that. OyMosby (talk) 21:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I am asking what is your opinion on the matter? Was the editor correct to remove it or was I correct to restore it. Dalmatia is currently one of the regions that makes up modern Croatia. So it would seem most relevant present day in the intro. Or perhaps you are disagreeing? Well, unfortunately for them, the history of Dalmatia predates the past 600 years. I’ll go by what Reliable Sources label it rather than editors with a self concluded pov. :). {[1] Frucht, Richard C. (2004). Eastern Europe: An Introduction to the People, Lands, and Culture. Vol. 1 } Even before Venice rule, it was at times part of forms of a “Croatia” so I would think that it isn’t wrong to day it historical was. And is today. Slavonia for a long time before Savic Migration was not Croatian, but that is not made a foul point. Seems more like pov pushes from certain Italian viewpoint that continues to be a problem on these articles. The pattern of everyone owns Croatia except for... Croatia. I mentioned to them that they may bring it up on the talk oage if they are looking to make such changes in the future. OyMosby (talk) 11:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Thanks Joy! Well then I’ll go with what the sources say. Being on the topic of intros... Recent in February this edit was added to the Croatia article. File.it is factual, is it sort of undue to place it in the modern country’s intro? I don see Bosnia or other articles discuss in the intro historic war crimes. Seems odd and for a long time stable. Is it warranted? It is already discussed in the article among the other comes of the era as well such as those by Italian forces and the Slavic concentration camps and Chetniks and their smaller genocidal massacres. Should then other crimes such that of Chetniks during WWII and so on be mentioned as well? Or should the focus just be the difference form a of Croatia that took place? I understand that these articles are at times used to for WP SCORE SETTLING” which is a concern. And thank you for your time. OyMosby (talk) 19:42, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. It definitely does not follow the simple formulation most other country intros follow. But if I were to make the changes, I fear the controversy I will stumble into as one can see already when a part of the intro was removed, it already met discontent. As Balkan articles typical do. Frustrating and at this point tiring to see. Might as well write the whole article in the article intro as a form of articleception. Like the film Inception. Lol. Sigh... OyMosby (talk) 20:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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They're baackkkkkk
Draft:Tanasko Milovich Submitted today to AfC... Missvain (talk) 17:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

August 1995 refugee column bombing
Hi.[] This new article is made in Serbian POV. Nothing has been proven and Croatia denies this event. Can you edit this article. Thanks 93.136.20.114 (talk) 10:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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Mediator
Honestly I don't understand other revert after my edit: that Australian admin reverts several my edits and if you understand the reason of linked revert, you are my mediator with him. Forza bruta (talk) 11:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Verdis
Hi, I saw you reverted Verdis into being a redirect again. I think that it has the notability for its own article as I listed about 17 references, most of which were independent except for their national website.

I'm just wondering why this isn't considered notable enough as a micronation when many micronations (example like the ones listed below) are approved on the Wiki with such fewer references and notability? I also recently made an article for an individual (Carolyn Shelby) which was approved and has very few references compared to Verdis?

MicroSupporter (talk) 20:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Vikesland
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_World_Kingdom
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_of_British_West_Florida


 * None of that has much bearing on the fact that these 'micronations' making claims on the Croatian-Serbian border are not notable, and giving them articles is a violation of the undue weight part of the NPOV policy as it promotes something that doesn't have that status in reality. Fundamentally, an encyclopedia describes, it does not prescribe. There's very little to describe here. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 20:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That sounds quite biased. It has described Verdis as a micronation for which it is. Verdis and Enclava are just as notable as other micronations. Not as much as Liberland, but notable enough to the ones I referenced above beforehand. I don't see how you can say its a violation of the undue weight policy when its described as a micronation which is indeed its status in reality, recognised or not? That would mean Liberland would have to be deleted too, and anything else that is referred to as a micronation. MicroSupporter (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that Liberland has an article is dubious at this point, because even if it had attracted some vaguely relevant media attention at the time, that time is long past and we can see today that it has no real long-term significance. I have no particular opinion on any other micronations, every topic should be judged according to its own coverage in reliable sources. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In which Verdis has. If you think Verdis shouldn't have an article, then you should request a deletion or redirect for Liberland too, but I doubt other admins would support that. With all due respect, I don't think you understand that both of these micronations should have their own articles. Could a discussion/consensus be opened up on whether it can be turned into an article if that is potentially possible? If not, could we give the article a chance and revert it back to being an article instead of a redirect? I put in a lot of research to make that article. MicroSupporter (talk) 18:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In addition to the policies I've referenced, please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like the sole reason the article should be deleted. The micronation has notable status for what it is, a micronation. MicroSupporter (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That argument seems like a tautology. Your arguments should instead be based on the Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 13:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think the article violated any policies or guidelines. If that were the case, then almost all micronations would be deleted from wikipedia. MicroSupporter (talk) 18:44, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Copy within
Thanks for identifying the source of the material in your edit.

This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved. Linking to the source article is also desirable.

I've noticed that this guideline is not very well known, even among editors with tens of thousands of edits, so it isn't surprising that I point this out to some veteran editors, but there are some t's that need to be crossed. S Philbrick  (Talk)  12:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Pozdrav Joy
Vidim da si vratio moj edit. Molio bih nekoga da netko preimenije naziv članka iz Zovi samo zovi u Oj Hrvatska mati jer postoji članak Oj Srbijo, mila mati, jer netko je namjerno stavio naziv pjesme Zovi samo zovi tako da može ubacivati drugu različitu pjesmu za koji je već napravljen članak i koji nema veze sa Hrvatskom pjesmom. 89.172.10.241 (talk) 07:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Mozete to objasniti na Talk:Zovi, samo zovi. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 16:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Neću ništa tamo pisati i nisam brisao materijal koji ima izvora ,nego samo brisao materijal koji nema izvora.89.172.10.241 (talk) 16:48, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia je enciklopedija čije uređivanje podliježe pravilima ponašanja, u ovom slučaju radi se o onima koja su objašnjena na WP:EPTALK. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 16:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Pravilo ponašanja je i da se mora staviti neki izvor gdje mogu to pročitati ,a ne da se dodaje bilo šta tako svatko može nešto napisati bilo što. Samo sam obrisao ono što nema izvora i mislim da je i to pravilo i da sam u pravu.89.172.10.241 (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Trebao bi netko dati prijedlog da se taj naziv preimenuje u Oj, Hrvatska mati a ne zovi samo zovi jer tako joj je naziv pjesme. Srbi su svoju inačicu pjesme uredili kao članak i tamo se ne može ubaciti hrvatska inačica  ,a ovdje je netko namjerno stavio takav naziv zovi samo zovi tako da može ubaciti i srbijansku inačicu koja je sasvim drugačija pjesma i nema veze sa hrvatskom. Ja ne mogu to mijenjat jer to ne znam i ne znam baš engleski za stranicu za razgovor da bih to drugima objasnio. Pa ako se slažeš sa mnom mogao bi ti dati prijedlog tamo i objasnit ,a ako se ne slažeš u redu nek bude tako, ali to po meni nije ispravno kako bi trebalo zapravo biti.89.172.10.241 (talk) 17:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Na Talk stranici tog članka se vidi kako su drugi korisnici spojili članke o tim pjesmama u jedan, i nema naznaka da to nisu napravili u dobroj vjeri; svakako se može ukloniti sadržaj koji nije citiran, ali bilo bi dobro da se raspravi zbog čega je to spajanje napravljeno. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 17:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Nije u redu zašto je to spajanje napravljeno kad ima Oj Srbijo, mila mati  onda treba biti i Oj Hrvatska mati  i stvar riješena svi zadovoljni. Ovako je netko namjerno tako ostavio sa zovi samo zovi, a tako se pjesma zapravo ne zove da se može ubaciti i ovo što sam obrisao što je bez izvora. 89.172.10.241 (talk) 17:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Našao sam još jednu grešku na engleskoj wikipediji kad su preimenovali hrvatski naziv prije 3 godine iz Nikola Šubić Zrinski u Nikola IV Zrinski, a ostavili mađarski naziv njegovog praunuka Miklós Zrínyi  ,a nisu ga promjenili u Nikola VII Zrinski i to nije u redu . Mislim da isto to netko treba promjeniti iz Miklós Zrínyi u Nikola VII Zrinski kad su već promjenili iz Nikola Šubić Zrinski u Nikola IV Zrinski.89.172.10.241 (talk) 17:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Removing lead figures
Hello Joy I wanted to ask why you are removing the lead figures, I will correct the source of the page count by Enver Hoxha, but I see no reason to remove the others. They are mentioned here in the article Albanian 7 (talk) 21:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The main reason is that in no other sources I used to write the article did I see such a pronounced mention of Enver Hoxha, to warrant a mention, let a lone an infobox mention that makes it stand out. And I mostly read Yugoslav-related sources, which would presumably not be shy to point out this kind of an irredentist intervention. Please see WP:UNDUE. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 05:40, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Jakov Lukarević
Can you clarify if Jakov Lukarić or Giacomo Luccari refer equally to the bishop and the historian. If not there should be redirects to the relevant person. Inwind (talk) 09:42, 29 October 2022 (UTC)


 * It is in fact all of them. See the discussion at Talk:Jakov Lukarić that led to the creation of that page. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 11:15, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Vukašin Mandrapa
Hello Joy, can you edit and keep an eye on this site [], they are constantly deleting sources 93.138.100.222 (talk) 16:40, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Bosnian Muslims in the NDH
Hello Joy. I need some advice. While looking at a description of various Bosnian Muslim officials in the NDH, I noticed for many of them it is said they were Croatian politicians, with articles linking to the Republic of Croatia specifically. In some instances, the link is made to the Croats as an ethnic group. As far as my knowledge goes, Bosnian Muslims are generally not regarded as being ethnically Croats and describing certain NDH politicians as Croatian politicians, honestly seems a little off and out of touch. My thinking was that they should be described as Bosnian Muslim officials who served in the NDH. Do you have a take on this? Governor Sheng (talk) 00:46, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Severin County
Hi! What kind of disambiguating hatnote should be added to the Severin County page? I don't expect there will be a wiki article on Croatian Severin County (1778-1786), but I imagine someone may look for the term (I did) and stumble on the Romanian county page. Info on establishment and and abolition of the Croatian county is included in the Counties of Croatia page, but there's really little info to go about except that the county briefly existed. Hope everything's well. Cheers --Tomobe03 (talk) 09:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

As an afterthought: The Severin County was divided between Zagreb County and Hungarian Littoral (subsequently short-lived Riječka županija) and had its seat in Karlovac. It occurred to me a potential section on history of the present-day Primorje Gorski Kotar County or Karlovac County might have a reference to the Severin County - especially (maybe) the former. I noticed that the arms of the Severin County are quite likely the basis/inspiration for the Primorje Gorski Kotar County. No such "history/forerunner section" exists right now in either of the two articles.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:24, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, makes no sense to have a red hatlink. What about a hatlink to a page section or to redirect leading to the same page section? I found this to confirm that the present-day arms of the Primorje Gorski Kotar County is identical to the arms of the Rijeka County (1861-1868) and based on the arms of the Severin County, so a "Forerunner counties" section is possible at the PGŽ page. I would not add any such hatlink before such a section is in place.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * While the Counties of Croatia provides a summary, there is potentially another way out without doing anything to the PGŽ article. I'm wondering if it would be better to cover Severin (1778-86), Rijeka (1861-66) and Rijeka-Modruš (1866-1922) in the latter article, or start an article on Hungarian Littoral as it fills the gap betwen the Severin and Rijeka counties, encompasses establishment of the Hungarian Littoral, a part of which was then organised as the Corpus Separatum. In that case, the Severin Co and Rijeka Co might be sections providing background and (a part of) legacy - the other part being the Corpus Separatum. I'm not quite sure how much development potential there is in the hypothetical HL article, but it appears it might provide at least a timeline for otherwise quite poorly covered (but later significant) period in the area. Thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * No worries. Thanks for the advice.--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:50, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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Suspected sockpuppet
Hi there. You blocked recently, who last edited on November 28 and then  started in the same pattern on November 30. This was noted by the reporting user, at the bottom of User talk:We stand for editing. was asked, and will not answer. Is this grounds for a report at WP:SPI or what? I mean two concurrent accounts can't exist under these terms, but checkuser would be required, hence SPI, right? Thanks. — Smuckola(talk) 04:40, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * BTW, never mind, we got it worked out as a coincidental misunderstanding. Sorry to bug ya, thanks. — Smuckola(talk) 02:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Danilo
Sorry, I didn't see your response at WP:Articles for deletion/Danilo (disambiguation) before it was closed. Though I'm still not sure how it's fundamentally different than Joseph (disambiguation). Nfitz (talk) 18:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Luka Modrić - pending changes
Reviewers are slow and one of them made a substantial mistake accepting changes by IP from Republika Srpska. For hours on the article of Luka Modrić can be read false information that his mother is an ethnic Serb, his grandfather wasn't killed by Serb rebels yet Yugoslav army and so on. This information cannot be verified in the cited reliable sources. These days the article has between 100,000-200,000 pageviews. Please accept my recent pending edit (it is pending because 5 minutes before an IP made a partial revert). Miki Filigranski (talk) 12:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Done.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 13:30, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Fixing a capital letter in the title
Hi again...

Do you know how to fix the title in Križančevo selo massacre, since Selo should be written in a capital S. Tried to move the article, but it's impossible. Governor Sheng (talk) 19:07, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Dejan Lovren
Hi, did you receive the notice about Talk:Dejan Lovren?--Miki Filigranski (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I did, yes. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 17:36, 25 December 2022 (UTC)