User talk:Jpatokal

Codeshares
Hi. Would you explain the inconsistancy with the current convention:

US Airways (Destinations) US Airways operated by America West Airlines (Destinations)

and your updated convention?:

Do not list secondary carriers for code share flights. For example, if Air New   Zealand operates a domestic flight under its own flight number and an additional Singapore Airlines codeshare, the codeshare can be noted for the Air NZ flight but this should not be listed as a Singapore Airlines flight.

It would be great if you answer the discussion page of WikiProject Airports.

Sentosa Express
Sentosa Express is not a monorail system! I know that many people thought it is a monorail system, however it is not.

Early discussions
Hello there Jpatokal, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit How does one edit a page or how to format them visit our manual of style. Experiment at Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Help or add a question to the Village pump.

I especially like your articles you created about Thai politics, and I hope you will add more in the future. It would be nice if you then add them to the List of Thailand-related topics as well, as that one makes it easy to check the changes of the Thai topics. andy 10:22, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Honestly, who calls it Komaki anyway? -S.

- Hello. Thanks for the data you added to Sakigake Party --Youssef 16:22, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Howdy. Thanks for the update on glutSolidTeapot - it must be the least-primitive graphics primitive ever (and rather a funny one too, I think). :) -- Finlay McWalter 14:16, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

To: The Finn **URGENT** **URGENT** ... --- ... ... --- ... I request your assistance in de-lame-ifying Pornography in Japan. Please view and update at your earliest convenience. User:Sekicho thanks:you.

Thanks for the laksa! shiok!

--zeno 13:31, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi there gn0sis! How's it going for you? Come across any more good food in Singapore yet? Alex.tan 19:01, 24 Jan 2004 (PST)

Scallions
Thanks for the nice edit on scallions. My draft was pretty ugly. :-< ~ Jake 20:38, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on Japanese Buddhism. I might make a few minor edits, but they will be minor. I don't think the Chinese guy Obaku founded the Japanese sect Obaku -- I think they are named after the same thing. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Nat Krause 16:34, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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Good work on Japanese Buddhism. --prat 01:05, 2004 Feb 9 (UTC)

Great additions to the 3G stuff. Imagine my surprise with the tech-heavy WP crowd and the poor state of those articles. On the other hand, perhaps a good indication of how much demand there is for 3G.. hmm... :) Fuzheado 08:43, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

A couple of Wikipedians have taken it upon themselves to rename Hiroshima to Hiroshima, Hiroshima, and do likewise for every other Japanese city. Please help me beat some sense into them by voting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japanese districts and municipalites. -- Sekicho 22:49, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Kunitaka isn't a vandal.

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This is all about the event of 512 (Samguk Yusa contains the same story). Nothing proves that the state of Usan occupied Liancourt Rocks. It's another Korean farfetched claim. If you keep involving Korea-related issues, I strongly recommend to you to check primary sources by yourself. Good luck! --Nanshu 02:53, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

O.K. I hope you reflect my comment to the article. I have no time to edit it seriously. --Nanshu 03:57, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Setsubun
Would you please rebuild your new article of Setsubun under Talk:Setsubun/temp so we can delete the copyright violation and move your article back? Thanks - Texture 19:32, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yokozuna
Thanks for the heads-up! -- Cyan 03:28, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Where the shojo transliterations came from
I found a table here -> http://antares7.prettyodango.net/articles/romanization/ WhisperToMe 16:34, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Liancourt Rocks
I think SCAP is much more authoritative than Shimane Prefecture. Kunitaka 08:43, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Our friend's up to his old tricks again. I've used up my reverts for the day... Markalexander100 06:07, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Why do don't add hyperlinks for East Sea from Liancourt Rocks? -- Likejazz 04:30, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hu Jintao
"There's no need to list the same pinyin twice, and WG is never used for modern PRC leaders; 9 of the top 10 results of a Google search for "Hu Chin-t'ao" are this Wikipedia article! Jpatokal 12:49, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"Hu Chintao" gets 17 hits. "Hu Chin-tao" gets 58 hits. "Hu Chin Tao" gets 6 results. WhisperToMe 23:30, 14 May 2004 (UTC)"

Are the "extra hits" sufficent enough to put the WG back on Hu Jintao's page? WhisperToMe 14:58, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

The 1994 abolishment
The article on Hepburn said that modified Hepburn was abolished in 1994. WhisperToMe 05:13, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Companies in Tokyo
Jpatokal, I'm going to have to say this. I know Chiba is not in Tokyo. It said that Kikkoman is based in nearby Chiba prefecture. You did not read what I posted there.

If we get beyond that, the fact that Kikkoman is based there should still be noted because companies based nearby are still a big draw to a city. For instance, look at the companies list for Dallas and Chicago; many companies are based not in the actual city limits but in the suburbs. Therefore, they should be noted here, in the Tokyo article as well. WhisperToMe 03:39, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I responded in talk. In addition, though I have not seen any demographics, I suspect that the situation of Chiba is much like that of Sugar Land of Houston; Sugar Land acts as both an "anchor city" and a suburb. In addition, Kikkoman's headquarters may be associated with Tokyo enough to the point where it should be listed anyway. If I see media reports from post-new headquarters that state that Kikkoman's headquarters are in Tokyo (which they are not), then Kikkoman would come back in. (EDIT: This is the only one so far: http://www.globespancapital.com/team_goldfarb.html) WhisperToMe 06:23, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yea, sometimes when I say "Tokyo Metropolitan Area", I really mean "Greater Tokyo Area" (due to U.S. usage of "metropolitan area") WhisperToMe 06:32, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Sauna edit
Jpatokal, I was just wondering why you removed the foreign language references in this article? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Sauna&diff=0&oldid=4305878

Reigh

A reminder about the romanization used by Viz's Shonen Jump
To mark long vowels for some words in Viz's Shonen Jump, the translators use circumflexes instead of macrons to mark long vowels in the translated manga. So if you see circumflexes instead of macrons on pages related to Shonen Jump titles, please do not change them to macrons. WhisperToMe 19:45, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC) --

Perhentian Islands
Hi Jpatokal,

I too have visited Pulau Perhentian and loved it as much as you.

But come on, own up, the article you wrote reads and feels like a Lonely Planet write-up, not an encyclopedic entry.

Do you mind if I edit to make it more wikipedian instead of travel-guide ??? Mercurius 09:25, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Vietnamese Coriander
Actually there has been a great deal of discussion about capitalization of plant names in articles. I thought perhaps the discussion had gone the other way again while I was out of circulation when you moved the article on Vietnamese Coriander to Vietnamese coriander, but when I created "Cuban oregano", User:UtherSRG promptly moved it to Cuban Oregano. Perhaps this needs to be taken up again on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. In any case do what you want with the text of the Laksa article (my main object was to avoid redirects), but I would prefer you leave the Vietnamese Coriander article where it is at the moment. WormRunner | Talk 16:30, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * For the record, I prefer the capitalized form. My apologies for having given you the impression I had no preferences.  WormRunner | Talk 03:14, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Macaw
I see you replaced the macaw picture. The "living in North Carolina" text refers to Dave Wooten's macaw, whose picture I put there originally. Could you change it to fit? -phma 00:28, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Copyrightinfo Image:KLCC PetronasTowers.JPG
Hi,

I'm a user of the Dutch Wikipedia and we are using the photo Image:KLCC PetronasTowers.JPG which you uploaded to the English Wikipedia. But we are actually only allowed to use the photo if we know the copyrightinfo (like author, etc). Can you please write this information down at the page of the image or just talkpage/email/say it to me?

Thanks in advance, Wilinckx 09:10, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

ALWEG
Thanks for the article on the Alweg company, and for the updates on the Tokyo-Haneda monorail.

Demise of UMNO
Please refer to my talk page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Earth __earth 23:14, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

How is "Kame-Sen'nin" incorrect?
Hi. I'm asking in which context is Kame-Sen'nin incorrect. Is it incorrect in relation to the naming convention of the MOS (Which does not allow diacritical marks in article titles) or is it "incorrect" in that the dash and apostrophe were incorrectly placed? WhisperToMe 22:35, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Another question: Does "Senn" exist in Japanese? If it does, is it possible to render Sennin as Senn-in? WhisperToMe 01:22, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Klang valley
Just a hi from another wikipedian in Klang valley, at least I think you are too based on your edits. ;-) -- sabre23t 03:52, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

NPOVing Anwar Ibrahim
You posted on the talk, and I was wondering if you could help balance out Anwar Ibrahim. I've placed the NPOV-dispute notice there as a result of several glaring omissions from the article about the government's point of view, Anwar's critics' point of view, and just about anyone's view except those who support Anwar. I've tried to NPOV it, but my edits are hampered by a lack of in-depth knowledge on Anwar and the claims of his critics. For more, you can see Talk:Anwar Ibrahim. Johnleemk | Talk 10:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Malaysia to do
Would greatly appreciate it if you could help or add to the great Malaysia to do list on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Malaysian_wikipedians%27_notice_board --Malbear 14:06, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * I have created a similar page for the Thai wikipedians at Thai wikipedians' notice board. andy 20:53, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Moving stuff from Malaysia to history and VT
Thanks for doing a move. However, a few thoughts if I may

1) Moving out everything from Malaysia after 1997 seems to imply that the history of Malaysia totally stopped in the 1990s (as if the country got towed out to sea and sunk). Would be nice if you could perhaps summarize and move ou the details yet leave the summary. Also possible to move out the entire section as a whole so that it doesn't truncate the thing.

2) The VT bit is a decision made by Mahathir overturned by the incoming government, hence a summary should be inserted should you feel that the entire chunk is too much detail.

thanks--Malbear 08:17, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jodo-shu headquarters in Onomichi?
Hello Jpatokal, If you go to http://www.jodo.org/ and click on About Jodoshu and then Main Temples in Japan, you'll see that the head temple is Chion'in in Kyoto. Not quite sure what's in Onomichi... Fg2 10:49, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

From Christopher Mahan on japanese company names
I am using the official company name in english, as found on their website.

Since many companies share very similar names, and are similar to brands, it is best, for an english encyclopedia, to use the company's official english name. Christopher Mahan 19:44, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

TIS-620
You just created that article - but maybe you haven't noticed there's already ISO 8859-11, which covers the same character set, as the ISO followed the Thai standard. Maybe you should merge your additions there, and make TIS-620 a redirect? andy 12:12, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Well, IMHO that academic difference does not qualify for a separate article, a simple sentence in the common article would be enough. andy 12:20, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * I put it on Thailand-related topics notice board to attract some more comments. Let's see... andy 12:53, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Alweg 2
I have added an entry for Axel Lennart Wenner-Gren with link to your Alweg page. As someone who knew Wenner-Gren I am interested to know the background of your entry for Alweg. Email if you prefer is

lindroth@tampabay.rr.com

Alweg 2
I have added an entry for Axel Lennart Wenner-Gren with link to your Alweg page. As someone who knew Wenner-Gren I am interested to know the background of your entry for Alweg. Email if you prefer is

lindroth@tampabay.rr.com

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Vajradhatu vs garbhadhatu
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Actually, I don't really know much about that picture; I copied all the information listed about from its entry on commons, which could easily be mistaken. Please be bold in making any changes that you think might improve its accuracy. - Nat Krause 13:37, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I found the description at this website Thangka-gallery. If you click inside the picture you can see detailed views of different parts of the mandala. Though I'm not very familiar with japanese Mandalas it seemed identical to me (the mudras and positions). Tsui (commons) --Tsui 21:56, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

(cur) (last) 07:22, 25 Jan 2005 Jpatokal (&#8594;Zen Schools - rmv photo (what is the relevance?))
It is just that.

The photo is from a Japanese Zen Buddhist temple. One can not tell it appart from other forms.

Now with Nichiren school, especially inside, there is a clear difference. Glenlarson

Chuan Leekpai
OK, I replied to your comment on Talk:Chuan Leekpai &mdash; J3ff 09:09, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

laksa recipie link is broken
A recipe for laksa lemak (http://www.laksa.com/) seems broken on the Laksa article.

I tasted laksa while visiting a friend in Sydney and look forward to making some at home.

– Dennis (talk) (Wiki NYC Meetup)  22:45, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Tessaiga Vote
Did you miss that "Other" vote a guy made? The tally is 5-2-1, not 5-2. WhisperToMe 18:32, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Double License
Hi Jpatokal,

I always wanted to do that anyway, thanks for reminding me. I just haven't had the time to get an overview over the licenses. I still haven't, so I'd like to ask you a question - namely, the double licensing template specifically only includes text contributions - is there any template to license images in the same way? I added a textual note to the tag, just in case.

If you like the photos, you can browse for anything useful. I'd be happy to put anything you can use in the commons - just drop me a note.

Best regards, Ravn 23:26, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

ß
You've amended the ß article to say that it's not unique in having no upper case, but you've mysteriously referred to the kra article, which seems to have to do with Ghanaian mythology. Could you explain, please? rossb 10:29, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * That's Kra (letter), used in Greenlandic language. -- Curps 10:19, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

SGpedians' notice board
You might be interested in the above. Do try to look through and contribute. ;)--Huaiwei 09:10, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A-macron
A-macron is a separate letter in Latvian, and it's collated after A. -- Curps 10:20, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Druk Air
The Druk Air article you added in to the Airlines of Asia category is unfortunately a duplicate - it already appears in the category and in List of airlines as Drukair Royal Bhutan Airlines. Can it be removed?? Ardfern 22:48, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism by 202.156.* - thanks for corrections
Thanks for correcting vandalism on article Singlish. User:202.156.2.170 is old known vandal and User:202.156.174.23 likely his puppet. This person vandalises articles about airliners and East Asia. Since he sits behind shared IP admins do not want to block him (yet). Pavel Vozenilek 18:19, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hakone

 * hi! I accidently found out that two articles exist about Hakone, namely at Hakone,_Kanagawa and at Hakone. I merged the two at Hakone and redirected Hakone. I tried to copyedit everything to my best knowledge. Please, tell me, if this is ok with you, you seem to be one of the main contributors there. Ben (talk) 07:19, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Please stop misleading people in the Soka Gakkai International article. Many of the information you have put on there is false. It is more important that people not be misled and understand more clearly about the organization.

"Hong Kong" article change
Please explain why you believed it was necessary to remove the link of the Hong Kong online forum from "External Links." Kirchherr 15:23, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yurikamome article
The Yurikamome article is great. Everything I wanted to know but was afraid to ask! Well done. --221.249.13.34 08:40, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah, you burst my bubble...
but you're probably right. On the very day that one of my photographs is Picture of the Day on Commons, you removed a couple of shots from the Okinawa article... Win some, lose some... Fg2 10:34, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Expo-Picture
I have added the requested licence (Image:Expo 2005 Flaggs and Corporate Pavillion Zone.jpg). (Honestly I do not understand what this licence says but I feel honoured my photo is used on the main page :-) -ThorstenS 13:39, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

MTR map
Hi Jpatokal, I've added the CC license. My new KCR map in similar style isn't quite finished yet, just wait a few days. --Voyager 14:02, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:55, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

I Need your help on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue
Hi! You appear to be an QUALIFIED interested disinterested bystander... I'm just making the rounds to everyone that has made their mark on Tsushima Islands which lead me to Fg2, (thence to Kigo, then YOU! Congrats! Booby Prize, but I badly need some responisble People to help me mediate therein that are familiar with things Japanese... Sorry, but I infer that's still YOU!) in the last month trying to mediate this flaming revert war &mdash; I can use your help &mdash; Bring lots O water! (Better yet Beer) Frank
 * This is the message I've been dropping on anyone on the Talk or Article pages since 13 May, I'd appreciate it if you can familarize yourself on the small article and stand-by to jump in on Tuesday with some cogent watersprays from a logical firehose! Thanks for the trouble -- the issue is trivial, (Is proper name plural or singular, Forsooth!) save there seem to be at least two teens in a war going well over three hundred edits in this one month sampling interval, over 70 edits in the past three days.


 * I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution &mdash; seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
 * Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
 * More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
 * In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing  The Inuse template into it &mdash; I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on &mdash; proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
 * If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
 * I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
 * I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
 * Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. 24.61.229.179 03:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 24.61.229.179 03:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well that's my heads up, and appeal -- Hope you can help. I really don't have a dog in this fight! If you can alert a few others qualified on matters Japanese, by all means, please do so!


 * I forgot to change my boiler plate - I just picked your name off Fg2's Talk on a seemingly appropo topic. Sorry for the goof! fab

Chinese titles
Your interests appear to span East Asia... Could you visit Talk:Prince He and Talk:Prince Guo Arrigo 13:16, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Maps
Yes. As long as this doesn't this doesn't involve me editing hundreds of pages to indicate so. :p Morwen - Talk 11:23, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Love hotel
I really have no idea why you think these places aren't associated with prostitution. The next time I go past the local ones, I'll take some photos of the several hundred adverts for prostitutes that are stuck all around the place. If you live in Japan, why don't you try asking a Japanese person what they think? --DannyWilde 12:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

KL public transport maps
Hi. Thanks for the compliment. I have no problems multi-licensing them. Couldn't really absorb all the text about licensing, so do i have to indicate that in my user page? I created the maps using Illustrator and just exported it to GIF, not sure how to increase the resolution to make them print-friendly. I still have copies of them in Illustrator format. Cheers. -- Slleong 18:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese clans
Hey Jpatokal!

It looks like you made a major mistake when creating articles about Japanese clans / domains, such as Aizu. A han 藩 is not a clan; its a feudal domain. Feudal domains are given to clans by the shogunate. Ruling families have their own family names, in the case of Aizu that have been 5 different, the last were the Matsudaira, feel free to check ja:会津藩 for reference. Families are marked by the character 家 (should be read ke here). Please help to clean this up. -- Mkill 16:46, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I re-licensed the images as you proposed. Thank you for informing that they need to be CC licensed to be used in WikiTravel, I din't know that. :) -Oghmoir 10:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to work at the Commons. The connection is laggy to the point of driving me insane, so I'll look into it later. -Oghmoir 15:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Is it ok now? This has been a good introduction to licensing for me, hehe. -Oghmoir 09:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Mount Tsurugi
Hi Jpatokal,

Thanks for catching my spelling mistake. I must not have been fully awake. One thing though, I am going to change the reading of yama back to san. The mountain climbing guide book I am using as a source is very clear in in its furigana, that san is used in this case, despite my inability to differentiate ro and ru. Let me know if you have any objections. The source is 北海道貢山gaido#4 Hidaka-sanmyaku no 山yama ISBN4-89363-605-7. --imars 15:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info I wonder what the Japanese Wiki is using for a source. Perhaps mine is no better. Thanks also for the suggestion about travel wiki. I may look into that some day. I used to live in Hokkaido, so hence my interest. Alas, this is but one of many projects competing for my time. --imars 20:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Sjanghaimap
Hello Jpatokal .... familiair name from 2bangkok.com :). CyeZ is a Dutch wikipedia who is actually living in Shanghai and as such is blocked and cannot edit :( We really miss him as he produced great articles and together with me in Thailand we were the only ones on nl: on this side of the world. He sometimes manages to get through the blockade. I am sure he will answer you when he does. Waerth 04:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikitraveller template
I thought you might like to add a userbox for Wikitravel to your home page. The box is at User Wikitravel. --ESP 15:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry
Greetings, editor! Your name appears on List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct: Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! bd2412 T 03:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) If you are an admin, please remove your name from the list.
 * 2) If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in bold; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
 * 3) Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Momofuku Ando
Thanks for the kanji.  O Z L AWYER   talk   19:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

My edit to your talk post
Hi,

I have just edited a talk post you recently made on Talk:High-speed_rail. I removed the text ", except maybe from Wikimachine's imaginary friends" as I worry this could be perceived as a personal attack by some Wikipedia admins. Feel free to re-add it if you wish to accept the risks. Cheers (Congrats on the number of Wikipedia edits you've made btw). Canderra 02:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Ny-Alesund picture
Sure. Dozo. Vincent 03:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Rocks
You might be interested in Talk:Liancourt Rocks. I really don't understand wikipedia culture well enough yet to comprehend whether this is bogus or not. -- Cjensen 17:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Long talk page
Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! bd2412 T 00:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Wikimania 2007
Hello, you are of course welcomed to help. I need organisers actually, but could you help me organise everything for the next two months, I will still be on WP, but I would like you to do the bid details. Would you mind that? Haven't contacted NUS or NTU yet, but could Suntec City or Raffles City be a good venue. Maybe we could try SMU since its in the downtown or else delegates have to go all the way out of town with very limited accessibility. Do you have IM, if you have check my userpage for contact information. --Ter e nce Ong (Chat 10:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I use MSN but if you Yahoo 8 you can add my MSN, I'm using WLM 8. --Ter e nce Ong (Chat 13:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Venice Lagoon map
Hey. Per your request on my talk page, I've uploaded a copy of the map for you at Image:Venetian Lagoon blank map.png. I think it was one of the first maps I threw together and I'm not very fond of it, but if you want it, go ahead and use it. :-) --NormanEinstein

Meetup
Hello, I'm organising a meetup around late November hopefully. If you're interested, see here for more details. --Ter e nce Ong (T 06:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

zip code
Thank you so much for the help! :) Chris 02:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

DYK-Peachliner
Thanks for improving Peachliner. I think your improvements are what placed it on Did You Know?. Fg2 06:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

List Trim
Thanks for trimming that list on the Gaijin page. I think the tags definitively labelling gaijin as perjorative and identifying it as an ethnic slur should also go: although some people choose to percieve it as such (which deserves mentions), objectively speaking it is neither. I'm really snowed under with work this week and don't have time to write you a proper reply, and to work out our differences. Actually, we might be closer on many points than I had previously thought (and I, too, am blue-eyed and [dirty] blond—what's left, anyhow). Regards, Jim_Lockhart 15:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Vanco
I would appreciate it if you do not remove the telco categories from Vanco again. I work for the company in question, and I reside in the US. It is not 'just a UK company', we have affiliates located in all of the countries in question. Rarelibra 13:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue about this. Visit Vanco locations to find out more. We are incorporated in all of the countries listed. Rarelibra 13:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Go to the article now and you will see the subsidiary listing in the various countries. I think this will suffice to say it is not "just a UK company". Rarelibra 16:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:First Air
Question answered. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Delhi Metro map
Thanks. Regarding the airport line, i added it based on preliminary news reports according to which the line starts at ND railway station and passes through connaught place, which will be the main boarding point for check in. But due to space constraints at Rajiv chowk it wont have a connection with the metro but will be a seperate station called shivaji terminal, where baggage check in will be done. rgds --Plane Mad 16:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Multiple names in lead section
I am with you on this. I first responded in Wikipedia talk:Lead section, and I wanted to weigh in at Talk:Singapore Changi Airport, too, but there was so much discussion already that I didn't have the time to read it all. But I read that there already was a box in that article, and I completely agree with you that that should be enough. As a matter of fact, I once proposed to deprecate the in-intro parentheses. (See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (China-related articles)/Archive1.) Although I got more support than opposition, the opposition had more time on their hands and was so vociferous that the discussion didn't get anywhere. They even deleted the boxes where I had inserted them, as in Xiongnu. This was one of the reasons why I eventually took a long wikibreak. &mdash; Sebastian (talk) 17:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the edit you found regarding Pumpkin Pie. That user has now been blocked for evading her ban. I will be alerting the Japanese community at so they can take action if desired.-- E  d  ¿Cómo estás? 04:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-18 Singapore Changi Airport
Hi there. A Mediation cabal case has been opened regarding the dispute at Changi Airport. The mediators, User:Hunterd and I, would like to hear everyone's stand on the dispute. Any input is very welcome at Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-18 Singapore Changi Airport, could you please indicate your stand regarding the dispute, and why you think the names should stay/go? Thanks, – Chacor 02:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Poll: "Ryūkyū" instead of "Ryukyu"
Hello, Jpatokal. I noticed that you've previously voted in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)/Prefectures and macrons. A similar poll on macrons is taking place until Dec. 13 at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). The voting seems to be deadlocked, with many outside voters rather than frequent contributors to the WP:JP project like yourself. It would really help if you can either comment or vote there, although I'll understand if you would prefer to stay out of the controversy. Thank you for your consideration.

(For full details and background information, see Ryukyu vs. Ryūkyū (in the WP:MOS-JA talk page) and Talk:Ryukyu Islands.)--Endroit 19:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration
Greetings! You are being contacted to be notified that a Request for Arbitration has opened and you were listed as an involved party. You can find the discussion and make a statement at Requests for Arbitration. Thank you for your cooperation. thadius856talk 20:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Jpatokal: thanks for alerting me of the lack of case closure. The Duke of Jpatokal 00:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Licensing on Image
Hi. I uploaded the image found here on the English Wikipedia but since I don't know the Malaysian language, I didn't know the licensing on the original image:. I see you know Malaysian; could you tell me the licensing on the original image? --Anthony5429 04:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

AFD notice
An article that you have been involved in editing, Singil Station, has been listed at Articles for deletion/Singil Station. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. -- MECU ≈ talk 21:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. Although you didn't edit Singil Station, you related a page that I bundled with this page, which is why I notified you. Look at the AFD, and one of the pages listed there you edited. Sorry, I don't remember which one. -- MECU ≈ talk 02:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, SSAWS, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  14:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Guangzhou Metro
Hi Jpatokal - the map you asked for has been updated and the line colours changed to their new ones. I've got rid of the original map from the page. JROBBO 00:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

About Taipei MRT route map
All three languages versions of Taipei MRT Route Map drawn by me are all multi-licensed with Creative Commons by-sa now :) --Littlebtc 18:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Diosdado Macapagal International Airport
My reason for moving Manila-Clark to Angeles City is that the airport that Tiger is serving serves Angeles City not Clark (see the infobox of the airport). For example Narita International Airport it is indeed located in Chiba but we still state Tokyo-Narita in the destination lists because the airport serves Tokyo (see infobox of airport).

Another reason is that it doesn't necessarily mean that if the airline refers to it as Manila-Clark, we should indeed state Manila-Clark, instead we should state Angeles City because DMIA serves Angeles City not Manila-Clark. For example Flyglobespan will be flying to Hamilton/John C. Munro International Airport in May of this year, and they refer to the airport as Toronto-Hamilton International Aiport but in destination lists we state Hamilton, not Toronto-Hamilton because the airport clearly serves Hamilton (see infobox of the airport).

As of now I won't make any further changes. Thanks for your time. -chris^_^ 13:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I would really like a reply Jpatokal. -chris^_^ 15:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Cremation in Hinduism
Hi Jpatokal, what you said sounds correct. Within Hinduism, religious leaders such as sannyasis are often buried in salt with mausolea-like structures built over them which are called are called Samadhis - referring to the belief that they have not 'died' in the common sense of the term (i.e to be re-born) and are instead merely carrying on their samadhi (perfectional meditation) elsewhere in existence. I know very little about the other exceptions you mentioned, but do know it is also common practice to place bodies into holy rivers such as the Ganges where cremation is innapropriate, or as an alternative. Best Wishes, Gouranga(UK) 16:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your recent addition to the Hinduism article. Can you please take a look at my related comments on the talk page. Abecedare 18:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, aojiru, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  19:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've written some articles on Visual Kei bands that are in danger of deletion for lack of proper references. If you read Kanji, could you find me some? Here are the links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missalina_Rei http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliene_Ma%27riage

Here's another I didn't write that also seems in danger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noir_Fleurir

Also, I see complaints that "notability" has not been established, which would be evidence of national hits, national or international tours, awards, etc. I'd greatly appreciate your help. Thank you.Pkeets 21:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Nan (artist) at Articles for deletion
Another editor has listed an article that you have been involved in editing, Nan (artist), at Articles for deletion/Nan (artist). Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --Eastmain 23:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC) --Eastmain 23:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Dokdo naming dispute
Hey, another Dokdo naming dispute has arisen, & RM has taken place. Please check archive for previous discussions & pariticipate in the vote. Thanks. I'm also going to note all others who participated in the previous poll. (Wikimachine 18:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC))

Thanks for Ho Yeow Sun page
Thank you for alerting the admin about the edit warring and vandalism on the Ho Yeow Sun page. I tried editing it almost a year ago but keep finding my edits deleted by User Jing13, so I gave up my efforts. I'm glad someone's finally alerted an admin about it.

Regards. Mark Choo

comment on Ho Yeow Sun page
Saw an edit of yours on the talk page (went there from the rfc) I got as far as June 8 under the controversy section. Your arguments in the discussion seem to be pretty good so far, but I wanted to urge you to strike through you comment about suing for defamation (june 8 02:51 UTC). From what I've seen threats of legal action, of any kind, can get you blocked on wikipedia. In case you didn't know. . . R. Baley 07:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It was posted with tongue firmly in cheek (hence the smiley), but I've deleted it anyway. Jpatokal 07:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought you were promoting the more NPOV and I just didn't want to see you get into any trouble for no good reason. happy editing R. Baley 08:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for helping me with the Ho Yeow Sun article. The reason why I changed the words is to avoid copyright issues. Apparently the person doesn't understand that. - 222.164.84.146 09:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Machachacha
Thanks for the chuckle. Exploding Boy 18:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Love hotels revert
Please see my comment on the Love Hotel talk page before reverting my edit again. ShizuokaSensei 05:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Mu and Exceptions
Jpatokal, I anonymously added a link to exception handling to the Mu (negative) page. Your edit comment says that you don't think they are related. I disagree. For example, if overrunning an array throws an error, then that's like this exchange:
 * Q: What is element five of this two-element array?
 * A: Mu.

How do you see it? —Ben FrantzDale 03:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Licensing of Maldives maps
Greetings -- could you dual license your excellent maps of Maldives' atolls under Creative Commons by-sa 1.0? This would allow us to use them on Wikitravel. Jpatokal 07:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Jpatokal! I am currently a bit busy to tag them. You may tag the image and use it in Wikitravel. Thanks --Oblivious 17:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the rhubarb
I can't spend as much time as I'd like on the List of Culinary Fruits page but it certainly needs some straight minds :)--Tallard 18:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Shigechiyo Izumi.
Yo. So you stated on the Shigechiyo Izumi talk page that both his parents died within half a year or so. Can you send/show me the Japanese article? Thanks. Neal 22:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC).


 * Okay, after re-reading your statement, I guess when you said 'article' you meant Japanese Wikipedia article, not the newspaper article about his biography. I tried typing his name in the Japanese Wikipedia, no luck, can you link me directly to that? Neal 22:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC).

Singapore Airlines article
Hi Jpatokal, as you can probably guess, I have almost had it with being unable to edit the Singapore Airlines article without hitting a brick wall with Huaiwei. You may have read on the article talk page that I have mentioned to Huaiwei, that if he continues to revert verifiable information with unverifiable info, or continues to remove dispute tags from the article (and claim that I need to get concensus to even add them), that I would file a RFC/U in regards to this. Going back thru your own history, I see that you have been involved with Huaiwei and a mediation cabal (which he didn't participate in and then claimed that he wasn't given the opportunity). Do you think that RFC/U would be appropriate in this case? You too have hit the nail on the head, in calling the fanboyism (as much as we shouldn't use that word, there is no other for it) on the SIA article, and it is holding the article back, and unfortunately is holding me back from editing other articles, such as Aeroflot, in which Huaiwei has attempted to include highly NPOV info (such as this diff for example). So I would be interested to hear your opinion on what you would do in this situation if it were me. --Russavia 17:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Your pic on Singapore Expats
I see. That website.. is full of pictures copied from other sources, and copyright violations. Even the other MRT images appear to have been copied from Siemens and Nippon Sharyo, while the LTA map appears there too, even watermarked by them. Ill see what I can do about it. Thanks for informing me! Advanced 15:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation in Content provider
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Meetup/Singapore 4
Hi, you have been invited to attend the SGpedians' meetup on 29 December 2007. We are planning to make this a full day event, but you may join/leave at anytime you wish. If you can or cannot make it, please leave your name here. It will be good to have you at the meetup. Terence (talk) 09:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

On Ho Yeow Sun
Well, I know they're not "my" standards, but I'm just following the last-name convention in Manual of Style. Pandacomics (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Burj Dubai
In the edit summary to your recent edit of Burj Dubai, you claim to have fixed a broken tag. I'm curious why you made this change, because it worked OK before (and still works OK now). Astronaut (talk) 14:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It's OK with my browser (IE 6, if you're interested). On strange browser related things, your signature on my talk-page came out as four tildes.  Maybe I have a browser problem too?  Astronaut (talk) 15:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Ume
Why was tsuyu just removed from the article without comment? Badagnani (talk) 02:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it's back. Badagnani (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thaksin's nickname
You say that meaw is not the Thai word for cat, but is a derogatory name for Hmong people. Question: why would Thaksin's parents give him a derogatory nickname? Maybe this is a nickname he has been given by his political enemies in Bkk, where people generally despise northerners, but it cannot be his original nickname, the one his friends and family use. So what IS his original nickname? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me for butting in, and I can't answer for Thaksin's parents et al., but the use of derogatory nicknames as a kind of shield is an extraordinarily ancient practice that likely goes back to when naming began. It should be a subject in its own write, or at least added (with scholarly references that I lack) as a major section to name. Some might consider Intelligent Mr Toad to be derogatory; my own wiki:user name, if not downright derogatory, is at best deprecatory (now I'll copy this to your talk page.) Pawyilee (talk) 04:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Mokichi Okada

 * As much as i like to uncover a religious undertaker as a Pied Piper ...
 * You cannot proove the source for "his fortune as a black marketeer". Shure, in Japan, during the rebuilding after 1945, the black market has ben the main market. However, apart of that, Okadas involvement is just an unproven myth here, exclusively perpetuated in wikipedia and related websites. You share a responsibility for that.
 * Where have you "heard" the black marketeer version? "No Source" can happen to anybody, no problem. I suggest, you retract your remark from the article, until you have a proof. I would support such remark, when the proof is doubtless. As we should reject religious POV, we equally should reject rumours and discrediting buzz.

--Fluss (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: COI & edit war
Thank you for your comment earlier. Seeing both u & Pandacomics have been upholding one of the five pillars of Wikipedia on the article 'Ho Yeow Sun' all these while, I've filed a page protection request until the case is fully resolved as per talkpage discussion, in view of the on-going acts of sockpuppetry & anonymous IPs (recalcitrant sockpuppet-masters or their misguided accomplices) reverting such inclusion unabatedly even at these very moment.. Do follow-up for COI or ANI resolution whichever most appropriate, as I've given final warnings to Jing 13 & Cane sg (likely sockpuppet) earlier that were ignored or circumvented. This nonsense has to end for the common good of Wikipedia in the long run. Rgds. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 08:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Ghan
I have started asking why at users talk page - hopefully something will be replied about SatuSuro 05:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The Ghan
Hi! Wasn't reverting you but rather when you reverted the incidents, you left some other content omitted so that was the easiest way I knew to get back to the clean version with all the content. Your change was fine, I just wanted to pick up the rest that was removed. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

EWR
Hi! The flights to EWR should stay as "Newark". The airport is located in Newark, New Jersey not New York and the offical name is "Newark Liberty International Airport". I have started a discussion on this topic at WP:AIRPORTS. Thanks! Audude08 (talk) 21:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Gaijin
Hi, casual reader, just wanted to say i support your edits to the Gaijin page and feel that race should be left in the lead as it doesn't make sense that a term can refer to ethnicity and not race (the terms being so interchangeable and close in meaning) I don't that's OR so hopefully you can keep Jreading and slp1 from going nuts on the article and removing decent edits as seems to have happened in the past by reading the discussion page. Word. 121.91.153.188 (talk) 04:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

An Extended Hepburn System
I hope you remmember an alternative romanization system. It is a transliteration system of the full set of Kana syllabary. Please read User_talk:WhisperToMe--Kmns tsw (talk) 13:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguate Jakarta
There. I have undone my edits. Only Singapore Changi Airport will have Jakarta disambiguated...and i wasn't the one who disambiguated it in the first place. One editor seem to have this idea and others don't and its just getting me all confused. Audude08 (talk) 05:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Strike!
Cute, but I do not consider striking out someone else's comment as polite, even if they were insults. I would, instead, contemplate whether I deserve such an insult. Do you not? ;)--Huaiwei (talk) 16:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No one on Wikipedia deserves to be insulted, and insults work against Wikipedia's community. --Matt (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Tokyo
I wonder why you removed my comment in Tokyo without an explanation ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 17:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I had to remove your last comment in order to clear a vandalism (a wikipedia bug maybe) please feel free to add it again if you want to. Miguel.mateo (talk) 10:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Singapore Airlines request for formal mediation
Hi, as the informal mediation in relation to the various issues regarding the Singapore Airlines article was not successful, I have now instigated a request for formal mediation on these issues at MedCom at this link. As you have been involved in editing this article in direct relation to the various disputed issues and/or have been active in discussion regarding these issues on WP:AIRLINES, previous dispute resolution attempts, or on the talk pages, if you believe that you are involved, then please take a look at the MedCom request, and add yourself and any issues as you see fit. Thanks --Россавиа Диалог 18:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Jizo-osorezan-jpatokal.jpg
Ton image est maintenant disponible sur commons à cette. Mikani (talk) 06:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

People mover
Can you please use some more references in the article especially in the "History" section?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 03:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. It means you do not have reliable sources to use in the article.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 03:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Delhi Metro
Hi dear!! I (Abhishek971) had loaded correct informations on Delhi Metro, but you have deleted many of them. I gave absolutely reliable references. Also you said that I should not refer to such sites (Delhi Metro Rail Corporation's official website). Don't you think that for any project, its official website is the most reliable source !!!. I have one more doubt regarding Delhi's population as stated in wikipedia. In the list of cities proper by population, Delhi's population was grossly understated. The reference was taken from some world gazatter, which states Delhi's population at some 9.7 million. But in reality the municipal population of Delhi was 13.8 million according to the Census of India, 2001. Controversy over metropolitan population is understandable as there many different rules to calculate it, but there is no controversy over Delhi's population at all because it is the population of city proper and the city has its own government (known as Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi, GNCTD or Delhi Govt.). You can yourself check it by using a search engine and keywords Delhi population (Don't use sites which give population statistics of many cities in a tabular form, as they are often misleading). You will see that 2001 population was 13.8 million, in 2004 it was 15 million, in 2006 it was 16 million and so on. According to a study by Population Reference Bureau, Washington, Delhi's (city proper) population was 16.5 million ([]) in 2007 and metropolitan population was 21.5 million. Even if we consider the old census figures of 2001 (13.8 million), then also Delhi is the world's most populous city proper. I don't understand what stupid world gazatter is, which states Delhi's 2008 population as 11.5 million, even lower than 2001 population !!!!

I tried to incorporate the actual figures and cited half a dozen references but still what we see is a big lie. I hope you will help wikipedia in breaking myths and letting the world know the truth by adding correct figures from proper sites (instead of referring to a stupid site like world gazatter and others).

Singapore Airlines formal request for mediation (2nd filing)
Hi, as the informal mediation in relation to the various issues regarding the Singapore Airlines article was not successful, I have now instigated a request for formal mediation on these issues at MedCom at this link. As you have been involved in editing this article in direct relation to the various disputed issues and/or have been active in discussion regarding these issues on WP:AIRLINES, previous dispute resolution attempts, or on the talk pages, I have added you to the involved parties list, so if you agree to participate, please sign your acceptance on that page. Thanks --Россавиа Диалог 21:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Singapore Airlines mediation
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Delhi Metro Image
Hi ! The image metro_map_big.jpg from Delhi metro website [] doesn't seems to have any copyright violation issue. This image is directly used by many. I am giving some links where you will find its use: - 1. [] 2. [] 3. [] 4. []

You can also search yourself by using keyword metro_map_big. I did not find any copyright issues on the DMRC's website. What should be the right procedure to use this image? (This image is most comprehensive of all, and is extensively used as a reference by Wikipedia and others)Abhishek971 (talk) 09:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Singapore Airlines formal request for mediation
Hi, as previous attempts at gathering concensus in relation to the various issues regarding the Singapore Airlines article have not been successful, I have now instigated a further request for formal mediation on these issues at MedCom at this link. As you have been involved in editing this article in direct relation to the various disputed issues and/or have been active in discussion regarding these issues on WP:AIRLINES, previous dispute resolution attempts, or on the talk pages, I have added you to the involved parties list, so if you agree to participate, please sign your acceptance on that page. Thanks --Россавиа Диалог 00:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ishta-deva vs. yidam
Greetings. I see you've a lot of experience with Vajrayana topics. There is a discussion underway about moving "Ishta-deva (Buddhism) to "yidam"--if you'd care to review the arguments pro and con on the talk page, your input would be appreciated.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Bihar
We need to put in a lock request for Bihar, I tried once before but got no response. The intro has been rendered completely unreadable. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Redlinks
Yes have read WP:REDLINK. As I interpret it, neither an article on a traffic junction nor one on a non-notable area of Jakarta are sustainable. Please do not order me to write articles. Have you read WP:CIVIL? Davidelit (talk) 08:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Jpatokal, apart from the question of notability, it's a bit ironic insisting on adding red links, yet asking those who don't want them to write the article/s. This is not the Indonesia wikipedia - quality standards are much higher in terms of notability, referencing, and we don't litter articles with red links to articles that are niether notable, or likely to get written. If *you* think they are notable, then create a 1-sentence stub. If they are not notable, then others can put them up for deletion. --Merbabu (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

If you look very very carefully on the talk pages of some of the more atrocious lists on Indonesian subjects in this wikipedia you will find my sig - for a while I had a specific focus on static red link lists created that never were followed up. Its an endemic disease that has festered the credibility of the Indonesian project - and I simply removed the larger lists of red links to the talk pages, and left the linked items on mainspace - and nothing has happened - red links in the Indonesian project show what happens - a name is put up and nothing further eventuates - no editing no revisiting over a considerable length of time. Pointless, please do not create or ask for something that never happens SatuSuro 23:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Acision
A tag has been placed on Acision, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information.

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Exchange Duuude007
Hi Jpatokal. I see you've had an exchange with Duuude007 on his moving of articles on various Democrat Parties, changing "Democrat" to "Democratic". Just thought I'd alert you to the fact that I have started a similar exchange with him. I contacted him on his talk page; he responded (on his own page at my request, with a note on my page); I responded in turn; he erased the conversation. I've transferred the exchange to my own talk page, and invited him to respond there. We'll see how we go.

Cheers, Koro Neil (talk) 22:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC).

Khmer > Thai numerals
Thank you very much for your addition of Khmer numerals to the chart! Pawyilee (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Ovophis monticola edits
Hi Jpatokal, First of all I want to thank you for your recent edits to the Ovophis monticola article, specifically regarding the subspecies O. m. makazayazaya. The taxon author, Takahashi, was definitely spelled wrong (I'll let the ITIS people know about this error) and it's always a challenge to match the names of given geographic locations to Wikipedia article names. The only remark I'd like to make concerns the way in which you did that last part. Despite the fact that the geographic information was referenced, you changed the spelling for "Arishan" to "Alishan", gave "Majia" for "Makazayazaya" and completely deleted "Chuchuku." The problem with this is that, technically, you've altered referenced information with this edit. It may not seem like such a big deal, but I assure you that it is important. I've now changed the geographic range information to look like this:
 * Taiwan: Chuchuku, Arishan, Makazayazaya and Taipei.

Now the text is once again true to the given reference (Gumprecht et al., 2004), while the links now take the reader to the articles for the correct locations. Except for Chuchuku, these changes may seem subtle, but they make all the difference. You may also consider making a "Makazayazaya" redirect for the "Majia" article and an "Alishan" redirect for the "Arishan" article. Thanks, (PS -- Please answer here if necessary, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The geographic names appear to date from Takahashi in 1922, when Taiwan was still a Japanese colony, and the names are hence in Japanese. Using them in a modern English-language encyclopedia to describe places in China (Taiwan) is like describing the range of another snake as "Preussen, Frankreich and Österreich-Ungarn".


 * The identity of Alishan, Majia and Taipei is not in doubt. "Chuchuku", however, is almost certainly another misspelling, and it's mangled beyond recognition.


 * The other problem is that any range given in 1922 is thoroughly obsolete anyway. 台湾大百科, sourced to 《台湾两栖爬行动物图鑑》 (大自然出版社，1999) and 《蛇类大惊奇》 (远流出版事业股份有限公司， 2004), gives the distribution as "大屯山区、宜兰福山、乌来、北横公路、阿里山、南横公路和屏东的玛家，都只有零星的观察纪录，可能是500至2000公尺以上中低海拔地区都有分布的蛇类", or "Datunshan, Yilan-Fushan, Wulai, Beiheng Gonglu [a highway], Alishan, Nanheng Gonglu [another highway], Pingtung-Majia and occasionally in other mountain regions between 500-2000 meters of altitude" &mdash; no mention of Taipei (which is at sea level) or anything remotely like "Chuchuku". Jpatokal (talk) 12:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I think it's great that you know all this and looked it all up. If what you say is correct, then I'm sure Gumprecht will have gleaned this information from old manuscripts, probably from Takahashi's, rather than based it on anything more recent. That's not surprising, as this kind of research is full of old names, especially when it comes to rare species and type locality descriptions that are up to 250 years old. However, all I wanted to say is that, as long as we don't have any better sources for the geographic range of this subspecies (or any other taxon), we should strive to remain faithful to the references that we have and not be tempted to substitute that information with whatever we think is more appropriate; something that could possibly be interpreted as original research. The way it is now is perfect, because it is not only an accurate reflection of the source material mentioned, but also shows that we've done our best to link those old names to their current localities. As for where the mysterious Chuchuku is, maybe somebody else will have an idea about that later on, but in the mean time we should follow Gumprecht's example and leave that up to the reader's imagination. --Jwinius (talk) 13:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Discussions are taking place on the update to the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles.
The Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles (the original discussion regarding which you were involved in) has been in limbo as a historic proposal for quite a while. Discussions are taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand in hopes of developing the page into a usable guideline. A major issue being discussed is the naming of articles on Thai royalty, which so far has relied on the status quo, but lacks clear community consensus. You may be interested in contributing to the discussion. Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Visa (document)
User:Ewawer (talk) reverted my changes to the Visa (document) article. I'm not complaining, just let me know which diff is more beneficial to the article. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Futaba Channel
Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  18:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: edits to Toa Payoh ritual murders
Hi, I appreciate your reading of the article, but I had to revert some changes. It was the black needles, not "black marks" (marks on what?), that astonished Lim's clients. Furthermore, the article is following the sources for the information on the Siamese deity Lim used. As there is very little reliable information on who or what Pragngan is (which Wikipedia also lacks an article on), I would advise refraining from redefining what the deity was said to be. Jappalang (talk) 11:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for new Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles
A drafted new version of the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles has been started here. Still at issue are specific naming conventions for Thai royals and nobles and settlements. As contributor to previous discussions on the guideline, you are welcome to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand. Paul_012 (talk) 18:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Indonesian volcanoes
There was a lengthy conversation a year or two ago regarding the lead sentence and title of article and heading - in relation to the usage - and as if can remember where it is :( - - I think we dont have 'former spelling' in the other 100 or so - but hey i'll take days to remember where we had the conversation - also we worked on the tying in usage consistency across the articles and the ''list' SatuSuro 13:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2
Thank you for this edit to the Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2 article. I was interested to know the official name of the rocket used, and did not see it when I read it. A Google news search found that recent news articles continued to refer to the launch vehicle as the Taepodong-2, which surprised me, given the DPRK government's position that this was a peaceful satellite launch. Nonetheless, since that was what seemed to be what was being reported, that's what I used. In retrospect, I should have done a different news search! I'm glad to see you correct the name and add the KCNA news report and Unha-2 Wiki article reference. They add tremendously to my understanding of the incident. Best regards, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 04:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== It wasn't me! Someone else edited it as being in operation and since there was no dispute then + the opening is in 29 days, it seemed alright to update in advance. I even bothered to put in a "as at" ==

Someone edited pls check. I merely streaminlined the info to reflect the "change" made by someone else, and even adding a "As At"

IPBE
Hello. I've given you IPBE due to the recent SingNet Tor blocks. You don't need to do anything different, but please check WP:IPBE for the relevant policy. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello again Jpatokal. I've removed your IPBE, not as a reflection on you but because as I'm fairly sure it is no longer necessary. Feel free to drop me a line if SingNet has similar problems in the future. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:Senkoji MonjuNyorai.JPG
File:Senkoji MonjuNyorai.JPG is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:Manjushri japan.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case:. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 19:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ho Sun
Please do not revert this edit. It is factually incorrect to call her "music director" when David Yem was music director while she was Worship Pastor. The cited reference of Derek Dunn's "personal communication" is completely incorrect and unverifiable. I have listed two other references - music director David Yem, and Richard Fowler as well as Derek Dunn. You will not find any online refutations to this, other than Sun's interview where she said she's not a "preacher". So please do not revert this and turn this into an edit war.

Thanks--TheThankful (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia even has an article quoting David Yem as being music director while Sun was at CHC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_(album)

"We want church music to cross over and impact the marketplace in the area of arts and the media. So that as a church, we can be relevant to society and we can touch the hearts and spirits of both young and old and through that, allow them to feel the anointing and feel the heart of God wants to say to the heart of the world, through the church.	” — David Yem, Music Director of City Harvest Church, Harvest Times, January-March 2006 Issue

David was music director, Sun was worship pastor. Leave it be. --TheThankful (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

David Yem has been music director since at least 1998/99. --TheThankful (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is another example of a person similar to a music director, but with added pastoral responsibilities who is NOT a "preacher", but is a worship pastor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Morgan--TheThankful (talk) 17:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Recruitment for wikiproject Egypt
As I understand it you are looking for an editor to take over Wikitravel Cairo. I'd be glad to help in something like that. I live in Cairo and have extensive knowledge on Wiki editing. I'm currently free and can focus extensively on working on such a project. I've got two featured lists and over 2,900 edits on Wikipedia alone. I also am working a lot on Wiki commons where I have deep knowledge of Egyptian copyright and general copyrights. I am fluent in Arabic, German and English. Please give me more information on the required job. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 18:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

IPBE(2)
I've put back your IPBE, if the SingNet proxy problem doesn't get resolved on the other page, then XFF_project would probably be the right place. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Scandalizing the court?
I've posted some information on the Talk:Contempt of court page re: scandalizing the court.--Cahk (talk) 04:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Delhi Metro
This is with reference to your post regarding updating of the length and no. of stations in the Delhi MRTS article. You have mentioned that the reference article mentions 67 stations, but after opening of Yamuna Bank station on May 10, 2009, the no. of stations increased to 68 and the track length increased by 2.1 km to 76.7 km. These updated figured are already mentioned in the wikipedia article in the operating lines section, but the box was showing older figures, the reason for which I updated it. I could not find an article on net which could show news about opening of Yamuna Bank station along with the new length simultaneously. So I am adding 2 references - one with details prior to opening of Yamuna Bank station and other regarding opening of this station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishek971 (talk • contribs) 08:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

dwi.com
I removed edits that were unsourced or sourced to a commercial attorney site with a pretty clear disclaimer that it doesn't meet WP:RS. Flowanda | Talk 03:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yamanote and Shitamachi
Going all the way back to replace the breezy, unencyclopedic, and poorly formatted content was not the right decision at least from the discussion I've been involved with at Talk:Yamanote (and not WT:JAPAN). Having well written and formatted encyclopedic stubs is better than having flowery poorly formatted essays.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 01:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Before you undo everything again (which you have no consensus for), discuss it at Talk:Yamanote.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Trying to end the dispute at Joseon Dynasty
Jpatokal,

I've tried to post a constructive suggestion at Talk:Joseon Dynasty, in attempt to end the edit warring at this article once and for all. If you have time, your input would be welcome. Thanks, r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 04:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Singapore Changi Airport
Hi Jpatokal! I have started a discussion about the Subang/Kuala Lumpur dispute on the article's talk page. Your comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Charmedaddict (talk) 04:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Joseon Dynasty MEDCAB
Hello. So far, you are the only interested editor who has accepted mediation over this article at the case page. If the dispute is still ongoing, I would suggest reaching out to the other interested editors and request their participation, or at least request a response to the proposed mediation. Once we have all parties at the table, we can begin our discussion. Happy editing, Vicenarian  (Said · Done) 18:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Malay archipelago
Hmmm - now he brings out the anon IP's. --Merbabu (talk) 10:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Barack Obama Joker poster


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 * This was a very minor passing incident of no lasting importance.

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Hi. Lots of things are extensively covered by the media but are not of any lasting importance. I don't feel like spending the time on an AfD however so I will leave the article alone. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Chorionic hematoma
glad to see you were able to expand on that stub. I keep a wiki of my notes, and whenever I notice I have something that wikipedia doesn't, I try to remedy that, but I generally don't go any further. Thanks for your expansion. Niels Olson (talk) 23:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Archiving
Hi, Jpa! Why not archive the old discussions on your talk page? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

To Aru/Toaru
You seemed to know a great deal about Japanese etymology -- can you offer any input on the move discussion at Talk:To Aru Majutsu no Index? Doceirias (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Macrons
MOS-JA reads that the Hepburn name with macrons is to be the last possible choice for the name of modern Japanese figures. First choice is the person's legal name in English. Second is a name form existing in a dictionary. Third (and fourth) is the spelling in the Latin alphabet the subject of the article has chosen. To use your example, and his false assumptions of what WP:MOS-JA says, he'd move Yasuhiro Nightow to "Yasuhiro Naitō", Masamune Shirow to "Masamune Shirō", and Tite Kubo to "Taito Kubo". Merely because Yoko Kanno and Ryuichi Sakamoto don't use methods of writing their name in the Latin alphabet like Nightow, Shirow, or Kubo, does not mean that we should default to the Hepburn system of writing their name.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 03:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Your rant is misguided, factually incorrect, and in the wrong place. Jpatokal (talk) 05:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, no, and maybe. I am telling you how I believe the guideline is currently written (use the subject's preferred spelling over Hepburn), how it has been applied (to these various pages), how TPoD would treat these other articles, and how I believe you were wrong in your assumptions on the other page. Rather than make a non sequitur in the discussion at WT:MOS-JA, I would rather explain myself moreso here.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 05:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. &rarr; WT:MOS-JA Jpatokal (talk) 06:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Very well then.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 06:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
(this is a copy: the original barnstar is right where it needs to be)

JLPT deck?
Deär sïr,

I see that you are quite skilled and generous as regards the JLPT (JLPT Study). As I am studying for such things, though far less advanced than yourself, and the link for your excellent revised JLPT 1 deck is missing, perhaps you could indicate where I might find it, or if perhaps you have a copy – I would be most appreciative. (Hope your travels go well.)

よろしくお願いしまう —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up and the reminder. The link should be fixed now, and I've uploaded a revised version with grammar included to Mnemosyne at . Jpatokal (talk) 01:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks kindly – looks great!
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Chinese names in Singapore
Sorry, this is in reference to which post? Also, I only delete it when appropriate (for example, if something has no relevance to Chinese Singapore, and the only available translation given is Chinese, it doesn't make much sense) Cheers, Nicholas Tan (talk) 04:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Query (Delhi Metro)
Is it better to incorporate a map of the system into a table of the routes or should they exist independently? Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) uses the former, and that is an FA. A discussion is underway here - please comment and clarify. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 13:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Delhi Metro map
Yamuna Bank - Anand Vihar to open soon! If you update the map, could you also please insert RK Ashram Marg station (which seems to have inadvertently been missed out) between Jhandewalan and Rajiv Chowk on the Blue Line (per this, this and this)? Thanks in advance! Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've attempted a colour switch - can you please take a look? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Jpatokal! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to insure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Vincent Tan -

KTX
Talk:Korea_Train_Express Hello - there seems to be some minor edit to-ing and fro-ing on this article - Please discuss any issues with the articles current state on the talk page. I have already noted one problem there. (message left on more than one talk page)Shortfatlad (talk) 12:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Your slander
I consider your comment left to the talk page of is a malicious slander and WP:Harassment as well as inappropriate WP:CANVASS to degrade my edits and intention. The phase, "liberal dose of kimchi" is also considered "racist attack". There is no reason for you to do such inappropriate behavior repeatedly as opposed to your claim for WP:AGF. Please don't this, and focus on "contents", not ad hominem. If you repeat the inappropriate behavior, you will take the responsibility. FYI, please check on how the initiator of the thread has been doing these days and my long-term opponent. --Caspian blue 14:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ho hum.
 * First, you have absolutely no business deleting my comments from a third party's page. I suggest you apologize to Gavin and me.
 * Second, you have been banned from editing Korean topics in the past. Yes or no?
 * Third, WP:CANVASS is the practice of bringing in others, but Gavin is already involved.
 * Fourth, please read Grain of salt and It's a Joke, Son! before you cry "Racist!" again. Jpatokal (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Read WP:No personal attack and WP:Harassment as you have been engaged in. You should get the fact straight. I've never been topic-banned from editing Korean topics. So your bogus accusation shows well how your ill faith led you the reckless action. Moreover, the canvassing should be written neutrally about the ongoing discussion on the content not ad hominem and racist comment. So you've are proven wrong repeatedly. Your assuming good faith comment is also very hypercritical. If you do not care about improving the article, you can walk away from the article. Please don't ever think that harassing of me would do good for you.--Caspian blue 16:07, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're still harassing me again with the bogus accusation. I've never been topic-banned from editing Korean topics, and you're spreading it with your malicious slander. This would be the last warning.--Caspian blue 16:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * "I request a longer sanction or “topic-ban” to Korean related articles for him at this time. Caspian blue (d) 26 janvier 2009 à 01:17 (CET)"
 * "Request for topic ban ✅, Caspian Blue and Sennen goroshi are restricted as described by the above topic ban for the duration of six months.--Tznkai (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)"
 * Since you do not realize how wrong you're doing, I have no reason to put up with the insults. You have been falsely accusing that I was banned from editing Korean subjects by WP:Canvassing the racist slander. Moreover, you have no reason to bully me with the past totally irrelevant to the topic in question.--Caspian blue 01:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ANI gave you a 6-month topic ban for Korea-related articles in January 2009. True or false? Jpatokal (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, what a Spanish Inquisition. I've never been topic-ban from Korea-related articles, so please re-read the ANI thread again and do not spread your bogus accusations to others for your ill agenda. If that were true, I would not obtain many DYKs from Korean subjects since Jan. 2009. You can ask about the ANI and don't forget to bring with the diff of your racist slur against me. --Caspian blue 02:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! My apologies. Here's the exact wording:  Caspian Blue is topicbanned from all articles relating to Japan, and all editing concerning Japan within other articles and projectspace, broadly construed, and Sennen goroshi was banned from Korea articles, in an attempt to keep you to away from each other. Jpatokal (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No apologies for harassing me with your bogus accusation and spreading it to Gavin? I also expect your deepest apologies for your blatant racist attack.--Caspian blue 02:53, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

ANI notice
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Your gross personal attack
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Caspian blue 07:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Colour discussion
I notice you have previously commented on the use of colour on Wikipedia talk:Using colours. You may be interested in commenting at this discussion. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 17:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

quick question
Hi! I hope you don't mind a question...if you're busy please do not feel obligated to reply. In your experience, do you find Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia very similar? Thanks a ton!--达伟 (talk) 23:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Similar, yes, very similar, no. Given their shared origins, they're surprisingly divergent in pronunciation and vocabulary. Jpatokal (talk) 04:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Hakone-fuji-jpatokal.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Hakone-fuji-jpatokal.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted.  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 07:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Feederliner
Looks like someone undid the redirects and started work on that article. You may want to watch list the old article. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:17, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Cenwin88lee
Hi Jpatokal,

I'm growing increasingly concerned about the actions of User:Cenwin88lee. Despite my repeated pleas, he continues to remove well-sourced content from articles without giving a good reason, often replacing it with irrelevant, unsourced information that appears to be OR.

In addition, I just noticed that he made a personal attack against you on Talk:Culture of Singapore, then laterblanked the talk page, including your comments, with no edit summary.

Here are just a handful of the edits that are causing me concern:


 * 
 * 
 * 

I know I've seen you around Wikipedia (and Wikitravel?) before, so I thought I'd solicit your advice. What do you think should be done in this situation? This has been going on for several weeks now and he continues despite my (and others'!) warnings and pleas. Thanks! --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You're doing a good job and others are cleaning up after him, but use the formal templates from WP:VAN and escalate in the forums there if he keeps it up. Jpatokal (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! FYI (you're mentioned several times here): User_talk:Dave1185 --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Parribacus japonicus
Hi, Jpatokal,

Would you be able to find a reference for the Japanese name and etymology at Parribacus japonicus? My knowledge of Japanese is nil. --Stemonitis (talk) 07:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Cenwin88lee
Hi Jpatokal,

It has come to my attention that Cenwin88lee has decided to revert your and my edits to articles unrelated to Singapore and which he otherwise seems to have no interest in, other than that we have edited them. See. I was thinking of making a post on WP:AN/I but I'm not sure that's the right place. What would you recommend? --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 20:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I started an RfC. Wasn't sure what else to do. Not sure I did it right - although I've been on WP for half my life, I've never started an RfC myself. Your input, in any form, would be much appreciated: Requests_for_comment/Cenwin88lee --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 21:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Your remark re: "mangling references"
The so-called mangled references work perfectly well and are in accordance with MOS. In addition, AWB suggests renaming in the case of multiple identical links and so I consider it good practice. LilHelpa (talk) 12:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

オウ
I do not know where you are pulling this from, but WP:MOS-JA was never modified after the souru/sōru discussions to say that if a word is written in katakana and uses the オウ sound combination, it is to be written as ou in revised Hepburn, particularly because it will be impossible to determine when the phoneme is not supposed to be the long O sound which it is most often (Seoul and Soul being homonyms in Japanese does not exclude soul and sole as homophones).

Also the Ryukyuan languages don't have a standardized romanization method. The island is ウチナー and it's written universally as Uchinaa, because for the most part the Ryukyuan languages are voicing/vowel switches from standard Japanese (O's become U's, K's become G's, the W goes away).— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 09:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * &rarr; Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles) Jpatokal (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I see now. You were mistaken in that I believed that ドウモイ is dōmoi in Ryukyuan when I constantly referred to that being the Hepburn romanization schema if that word existed in Japanese. Also disputed is for articles, and you are currently the only one who has an issue with this.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 09:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
Elekhh (talk) 06:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Chhattarpur station
Hello, I have recently created the Chhattarpur station article and wanted to know if the spelling of Chhattarpur is with tt or just t. The news articles use both the spellings, the DMRC website uses tt but the the Chhattarpur temple uses single t. I am quite confused as to what is to be used. Thank You.--  WorLD8115   ( TalK )   16:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

3RR & Tag team
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

You are likely violate wikiepdai guideline.

Is it your only revert reason?

Your behavior and bad faith / keep reverting edits are not acceptable.

Revert only when necessary

Don't revert due to "no consensus"

Tag team Tag teaming (sometimes also called a "Travelling Circus") is a controversial[1] form of meatpuppetry in which editors coordinate their actions to circumvent the normal process of consensus. As with meatpuppetry, editors may be accused of coordinating their actions to sidestep policies and guidelines (such as 3RR and NPOV).

Ssyublyn (talk) 23:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

You exactly reverted its page 3 times without single reason. (technically violate the three-revert rule)


 * 1) 22:13, 20 September 2010  (edit summary: "rv, most of those incidents concern the KTX system as a whole (tunnels, trackbed etc)")
 * 2) 08:26, 21 September 2010  (edit summary: "Undid revision 386020842 by Ssyublyn (talk)")
 * 3) 22:23, 23 September 2010  (edit summary: "rv per Talk:Korea Train Express")

—Ssyublyn (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The reverts were four days apart, and I have explained my reasoning in detail on Talk:Korea Train Express. If you are going to call User:Rontombontom a meat puppet, please do so on his talk page. Jpatokal (talk) 08:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Your only and last reason of revert "...The Shinkansen's biggest incident to date was jumping the tracks during an earthquake. Are you saying it should not be listed either?..."[] Do you think your comment have valid reason to revert / or whole change? I already provide enough sources / evidences / full exaplain why My version stand on valid edit with My good faith edit. But you keep reverting by your own silly/ short/ stupid reason. Do you really have right mind to Good faith edit at here? Sorry, but you have no valide reason proved. If you are really good faith and construtive editor. First, you should discuss fully, accept counterpart, You should change article bit by bit. Bit you did nothing about this.Ssyublyn (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I guess think You can make me as 3RR vio by Tag teaming with Him. Ssyublyn (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I warning you. You exactly revertyed its page 4 times.
 * 1) 22:13, 20 September 2010  (edit summary: "rv, most of those incidents concern the KTX system as a whole (tunnels, trackbed etc)")
 * 2) 08:26, 21 September 2010  (edit summary: "Undid revision 386020842 by Ssyublyn (talk)")
 * 3) 22:23, 23 September 2010  (edit summary: "rv per Talk:Korea Train Express")
 * 4) 13:31, 25 September 2010  (edit summary: "rv various copyright violations and, once again, series of tendentious edits that has found zero support on the Talk page")

Massive blanking. deleted all sourced materials. You just simply deleted all my edits with very tiny part reason.

You simply missusing Copyright. If you think it was copyvio, you should point out which, and You have to correct its part only. Ssyublyn (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

See Reverting
 * ...if only part of an edit is problematic then consider modifying only that part instead of reverting the whole edit... 

Ssyublyn (talk) 05:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC

User:Ssyublyn has copied a number of promotional articles word for word, eg almost all of this edit is quoted wholesale from [25] and [26]. The articles are clearly marked "Copyright 2010 Korea Railroad Research Institute, All Rights Reserved" and thus cannot be used on Wikipedia. Jpatokal (talk) 13:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) you removed all of my edits by part of your made up reason. Vandalism.
 * 2) There is not exactly copyvio at that edit. Are you Copyright holder?
 * 3) According to your claim, The whol incident section should be romved. The whole incidents section sourced from newspaper. its copyring belong to newspaper companies. Ssyublyn (talk) 05:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Ryukyuan
I don't know what page you were reading, but there is no consensus for your edit to the manual of style. Particularly because your edit does not reflect the original wording of the guideline.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 00:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: FMSR
While I applaud your decision to publish obscure but historically significant material, the article I was working on is far from finished, which is why I restrained from moving it to the mainspace (compare with drafts of the Johore Wooden Railway and Muar State Railway, which I considered nearly ready for publishing, but felt that it needed a few more solid sources so that they could be listed on DYKs). And since I've very much inactive, there is very little chance that any Malaysian will pick up where I left off, seeing how they're generally intellectually deficient and incapable of researching history that isn't sanctioned by the government.

Call me cynical, but having worked on Wikipedia for years and continued reading it after my inactivity, I seriously doubt anything related to that country will ever be as comprehensive as that little dot down south. Not even politics. - Two hundred percent (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
for this. I seem to be backwards this morning. Rivertorch (talk) 11:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * No worries, it looks like an anon just beat you to it... Jpatokal (talk) 11:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problems- KTX
I've left a message on the talk page of KTX suggesting that the copyright problems be resolved first, then deal with any editing issues. As such it would be helpful if you could help with this - ie in edits in the next short time period, (until editors agree that there are no copyright issues in the article) should only remove copyright violations, and not any other material at the same time.

It seems to me that the article will be a good one no matter what 'editor version' is used, and that the issues are fairly minor, but have got out of hand.

I've left similar messages on other talk pages. Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 22:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Connellan air disaster
Hello! Your submission of Connellan air disaster at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Connellan air disaster
Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

1973
Please consider Talk:Korean maritime border incidents#Introductory sentence. --Tenmei (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

RfC Senkaku Islands
The RfC provides an opportunity for additional comment by other interested editors. Can you frame a constructive response to Bobthefish2 pivotal question: Even if the policy does not recommend the use of Senkaku/Diaoyu-style dual names, is our situation exceptional enough to make it a good solution? In this RfC context, please consider an overview here? --Tenmei (talk) 19:31, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

"No consensus for changes"
I didn't change it. Pmanderson did. And there's no consensus for his changes. And you undid all of my edits which were otherwise helpful for the page.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 01:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Also the discussion on the Ainu and Ryukyuan languages was archived so I removed the "Under Discussion" tag.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Flagicons
Hello, I hope I didn't upset you about my actions during the last few days. Before I came, flagicons were already extensively used in codeshare agreements, and so I thought it was the right thing to add them to every page. I don't want to pick arguments with Wikipedian around me, because there are better things to do, e.i improve Wikipedia. With the reasons I mentioned on WP talk:Airlines, I hope you see my view. If you do, please drop me a message saying that you agree, so I could revert your edits and mine and restore the f/i, otherwise, I'm more than happy to talk about it. :) Sp33dyphil (Talk) (Contributions)(Feed back needed @ Talk page) 03:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, are you an aviation enthusiast? Because at the moment I'm expanding a number of airline articles, and I can't do them all by myself.

Re: Clarification needed with article titles for Japanese locations
Get off of your fucking high horse. It's clear that these names have entered the common usage, and because edited redirects are in the way, I initiated requested moves for the pages in question that were not already under discussion.

And long before Pmanderson and you suddenly thought that any edits I made to the wording of the manual of style had no consensus, the practice of the Japanese project was to use the more common name unless there is a name officially utilized by the subject (be it a biography or a translated title). There was nothing wrong with my move of Makiko Ohmoto, particularly when the last move was performed before the guideline was re-examined to cover official spellings or the personal preferences of the subject three years ago.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 10:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

WP:MOS-JA
Unless you actually edit articles concerning Japan, do not revert me or anyone else on WP:MOS-JA again. All I did was remove the "wave-dash" example because it is currently under discussion it on the talk page. It is better to have examples that do have consensus rather than examples which do not. If Nihonjoe, who originally modified that piece of the guideline had any issue with it he would have brought it up.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I regret to inform you that you do not own MOS-JA. Jpatokal (talk) 06:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I did not change any policy. The wave dash is not a non-language character (Nihonjoe is the only one who says it is). I have only removed the text concerning wave dash because it is already mentioned in the other section. Saying the star and heart are prohibited is better than saying the wave dash which was only added by Nihonjoe in response to one of the threads on the talk page. My edits do not make it appear that the wave dash is allowed in article titles. Please don't blanket revert because you think every edit I make to that page has no consensus. Bring it to the talk page like a normal editor.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 06:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
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 * This permission does not give you any special status or authority
 * Submission of inappropriate material may lead to its removal
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 * If, for any reason, you decide you do not want the permission, let me know and I can remove it
 * If you have any questions about the permission, don't hesitate to ask. Otherwise, happy editing! HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   19:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:AT edit
You cannot take a dispute from one page that spilled onto another and gained no outside input as consensus.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 08:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Taiwan High Speed Rail
Hello,

recently at Talk:Taiwan High Speed Rail, I and User:Multivariable have been discussing potential improvements of the article with view to a Featured Article nomination. However, apart from the Guild of CE, so far it was only the two of us discussing, and we would like to hear more opinions. (In particular, about the photo selection.) You have been a substantial editor of the article in the past, so I hope that you still take an interest in the subject, and I also gather that you are a rather experienced editor (surely compared to me), hence I would like to invite you to join in that discussion. --Rontombontom (talk) 12:42, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

869 earthquake and tsunami
Hi Jpatokal,

I've left a comment on the talk page regarding naming this event. I had understood that for articles about historical events in Japan it was normal practise to include the era name, although the actual year is still required for clarity as in the 1854 Ansei-Tokai earthquake. I would have appreciated the chance to comment before the move. Mikenorton (talk) 08:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Sanriku
Please review my edit here. Please note that an additional search of the JAXA website seems to confirm the accuracy of this sentence. --Tenmei (talk) 14:52, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Al Karama, United Arab Emirates DYK
I went ahead and approved the nom but I would encourage you to clean up the bare urls used as references. Some DYK reviewers can get very picky about those and may even hold up your nom over it. AgneCheese/Wine 02:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Al Karama, United Arab Emirates
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

RE:Jal Hans
Im not so sure - see my response. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 17:39, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
I've reverted your "re-listing" of a report  that modified an existing report, and deleted other people's comments. You are welcome to file a new report, but modifying an existing one in this manner is not acceptable. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Indonesia banknotes
I saw on the ANI board about the incident you and Delta had about the Indonesia banknotes. I did some quick digging around from the links that you gave me and even from reading the law, the only thing Article 12 states that is public domain is legal code, court decisions and government speeches. The next section states that there is no copyright infringement if the symbols of the state (coat of arms and anthem) if used in their original form. I did not see anything for currency, unless you were thinking for the copyright terms. If you were thinking along those lines of copyright terms, the currency banknotes and coins have a term of 50 years after publication http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=189721.. However, I would suggest to not add the currency images again until this issue is settled (or perhaps make a composite like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Indonesian_Rupiah_%28IDR%29_banknotes2009.jpg so you can still have the front side of the banknotes, but only use 1 image instead of many. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:18, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * &rarr; Talk:Indonesian rupiah Jpatokal (talk) 04:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Hepburn romanization
Would you please comment again for the article "Hepburn romanization" at its talk page?--Mujaki (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making a calm judgment.--Mujaki (talk) 16:47, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring on Joseon Dynasty
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Joseon Dynasty. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. r ʨ anaɢ (talk) 04:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.



Administrators'_noticeboard/Δ
I've archived this discussion. Think carefully before taking action if you're thinking of unarchiving the discussion. The ongoing issue you are having has nothing to do with Δ at this point. There is discussion happening regarding the copyright status of the notes, and Δ's actions that spurred that discussion are well in the past. There is no ongoing action happening by Δ regarding this event, and posting to this noticeboard is therefore irrelevant. You're well aware of other venues to discuss the copyright status of these images, and where such discussion is happening. Please avail yourself of those opportunities. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 13:59, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

My bad
My mistake, it looks like I had clicked on the wrong diff when I did that. r ʨ anaɢ (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Question

 * Per WP:Drama & WP:FORUM
 * What was this revert for? Being a seasoned editor such as you and me, it is our duty to ask him to get straight to the point instead of letting him make such an irresponsible or rushed remark, as he defends it. Anyway, I've closed the thread and asked him to either mind his own business OR start a new thread that can actually help to resolve the issue by inviting them two loggerheads to discuss it. No hard feelings towards you, I just want to keep everybody focused here. Best. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 02:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Unless there's some history here, which I seem to be unable to find with a cursory glance, you're going way overboard with your attempts to squelch discussion on Talk:Singapore. To me, it looks like Chipmunkdavis and Smilingfrog are still very much editwarring (last reverts June 11, after discussion on June 10) and B3virq3b is, quite reasonably, asking what the issue is and what to do about it.  This has nothing at all do with WP:FORUM, which is discussion unrelated to WP, eg. "Singapore rules" or "Singapore sucks", and threatening to block him (WTF!?) is completely and totally uncalled for; if you do proceed with blocking him, you will need to explain why at RFC/U. Jpatokal (talk) 05:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, you're not getting what I said. The fault lies in his tone and the way he titled it, I would have invited the both of them to sit down to discuss/talk about it and let them carry on with that process. But, what is unacceptable is that played-up (read WP:Drama) tone of his. Either one helps to defuse the tension or stay the hell away, not add fuel to the fire by asking stupid question. Agreed? There is no need to block him, as yet, due to the fact that he hasn't crossed the line of no return. No offence but I wonder if you had really read what he had posted? -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 05:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Are we really talking about the same edit here? To me, that looks like a mildly humorous statement of the obvious, in the unsaid anticipation that the parties involved would reply, and his next edit makes this intention even clearer.   How did you interpret the remark, and why do you find it dramatic/offensive/stupid?  Jpatokal (talk) 06:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * May be between the two of you in private, you might find it funny but I don't. The fact that the two of them are not discussing it on the talk page is an indicator that someone else should have gone to their respective talk page to invite them over to discuss it instead of beating around the bush with that stupid question of his. Stop wasting our time! Get straight to the point! Isn't that something of a clarity of objective? If one wants to help, either he goes all the way 100% or shove it. Economics isn't my forte, I stayed out simply because I believe in minding my owwn business, which aptly summarises: "Usually, it is better just to butt out and let the editors resolve the problem between themselves.." What is he doing to help? Asking a stupid question isn't going to help, but the act of him actually doing something might have change my mind about him. Else, why would I say that his words there are WP:Drama? It is as simple as we disagree to agree and agree to disagree, move on please. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 06:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I still fail to see why you're so upset by the comment, and your overreaction to it borders on hysterical. Since English is not your first language, please assume good faith if you don't understand what somebody is trying to say, instead of assuming it is an intentional provocation, a "stupid comment" or "drama".  As an uninvolved party, and a native speaker of English, to me it seems quite clear that that all B3virq3b was trying to do was to get the editors to explain their positions on the talk page, which is helpful, as opposed to ignoring them and having the edit war continue, which is not helpful.  Sure, explicitly asking them to do so on their talk pages might have been more helpful, but not doing so is hardly a blockable offense!  I think you owe B3virq3b an apology. Jpatokal (talk) 06:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Indonesian money
The list of restored images is at User:Courcelles/Temp3. Please transfer them to Commons ASAP. Courcelles 13:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

An Invite to join the WikiProject Railways in India
naveenpf (talk) 09:57, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops!
Hi

Sorry, I seem to have cocked up. I moved Maritime Xperiential Museum to Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium before putting in a page move request for an admin to over-write the problem page. I was a little surprised to find there was already a requests there from yourself :¬(

Apologies - I have made a note on the move requests page, though you may need to amend the original page to be moved from. I have also "fixed" the redirects and linked pages before finding your requests so they will all need to be redone from Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium -> Maritime Experiential Museum & Aquarium

Once again, sorry about that. It is a shame that there was no page move notice on the talk page itself - I moved it as a result of finding that it had been renamed after a page delete notice on my user talk page drew my attention to the article talk page Talk:Maritime Experiential Museum and Aquarium. Chaosdruid (talk) 15:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:City Harvest Church
Hi Jpatokal. Regarding your most recent comment at the above page, you may want to review WP:VAND and rephrase your comment. Edits can only be termed vandalism if they are purely disruptive and therefore the edits in question do not count (the editors seem to think there is a legitimate reason to remove them). Thanks SmartSE (talk) 12:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * hello jpatokal, pls check out the talk page about the rephrased version of the paragraph on the church fund probe. Ur view? Kimberry352 (talk) 08:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Rollback granted
Hello Jpatokal. After discussion with User:Fastily, I have added the rollback flag to your account. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 01:44, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Can archive your long talk page?
Can you please archive old threads from your long talk page to save more space for your talk page? It will save bandwidth for people like me. Thanks! Kimberry352 (talk) 11:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, I like it this way. Jpatokal (talk) 12:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, do u know how long does your long talk page take to complete downloading all the threads? The longer your talk page, the more time taken to complete downloading all the threads in one page. Every new thread is made at the end of your talk page. Consider go green save electricity. Kimberry352 (talk) 12:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * replied to your comment on chc talk page... i sense you show prejudice against me even as you dislike my way of writing. Kimberry352 (talk) 04:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

File:WayangKulit Scene Zoom.JPG
Dear Jpatokal,

I'm working in a institute called IQB (Institut zur Qualitätsentwicklung im Bildungswesen). We would like to use this photo in one of our tests in a mathematical context in the year 2012 and 2018. Unfortunally we cannot use this photo with the CC-BY-SA License because we cannot make the tests public. Is it possible to give us a special license like CC-BY? The IQB is not a commercial Institute and there is no financial advantage. You would help us to advance the schools.

Best regards, JR.IQB.Mathe (talk) 11:32, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

File:WayangKulit Scene Zoom.JPG
Dear Jpatokal,

I'm working in a institute called IQB (Institut zur Qualitätsentwicklung im Bildungswesen). We would like to use this photo in one of our tests in a mathematical context in the year 2012 and 2018. Unfortunally we cannot use this photo with the CC-BY-SA License because we cannot make the tests public. Is it possible to give us a special license like CC-BY? The IQB is not a commercial Institute and there is no financial advantage. You would help us to advance the schools.

Best regards, JR.IQB.Mathe (talk) 11:32, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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Ask your advice
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Campus of Kyushu University‎ was nominated deletion in Articles for deletion/Campus of Kyushu University, what do you think it, Please tell me in my note how do you think it. I want your wise advice, thanks you. --Hot cake syrup (talk) 04:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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Jill Farrant DYK
Thanks for the input. I'm actually working on improving the article right now. I'll send you a message to re-view once I'm done, if you don't mind. Joel Why? talk  12:33, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've made a number of small, yet significant changes to the article. It's definitely not perfect, but I think it's a big improvement from the previous incarnation. Please let me know your thoughts when you have a chance.    Joel Why?  talk  13:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yokohama Dreamland Monorail
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DYK for Yokohama Dreamland Monorail
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Talk:Yerba mate
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Metrorail Gurgaon Map
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Fastest Team to Circumnavigate the Golden Quadrilateral
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About your question
Hi! I saw your question here. I'm not a member of any of the Wikimedia lists, so I hope that you don't mind if I answer here for simplicity. The issue seems to be this page: it took a lot of time before enough Finnish users signed up, and there is still very weak support for a Japanese project, presumably because the Japanese community appears to plan to stay with Internet Brands. I don't know exactly what's happening with the missing language versions. You might get a better answer by asking somewhere at the current Wikivoyage site instead. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki::Gateway question
Hi, Jpatokal. If I'm not mistaken, you maintain the Ruby framework for Mediawiki API (great job, btw). I'm currently using some Ruby scripts for wiki project stat maintenance at Meta, which in turn uses your framework. My bot was recently granted a bot flag on Meta; however, the changes it makes still show up in recent changes. I tried testing it by running the simple example script that you have at github, and even then, the bot edit was not recognized as such and showed up in recent changes. So I'm wondering if it's a framework issue. Could you please take a look and see if that might be the case? Thanks a lot in advance, Chaojoker (talk) 04:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * AFAIK hiding bot changes is implemented entirely on the Mediawiki side and does not depend on the bot code. Have you selected "hide bot changes" when viewing RC? Jpatokal (talk) 05:18, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the default; also, if you check the contributions of the bot, there's no 'b' next to its edits to show that they were bot edits. I've ran alternative pywikipedia scripts with the same bot in another wiki project in the past, and with those it was working just fine and hiding its changes. But with the current Ruby scripts the changes are not hidden. It's very strange, which is why I tried the simple example script and still got the same problem, which got me thinking it may be related to the framework. Chaojoker (talk) 06:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * A-ha, apparently you do need to pass in a bot flag!  Adding { 'bot' => '1' } as the third argument to edit should do the trick? Jpatokal (talk) 22:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your suggestion :) After various trials and errors, finally I passed the bot flag as an option for create in gateway.rb file, and that's what finally solved it (regardless of whether the script is using edit or create, as both those functions eventually call on create; passing the option to edit even if the script was calling edit would still cause the same problem). So here's the code I have right now that works:

def create(title, content, options={}) form_data = {'action' => 'edit', 'title' => title, 'bot' => true, 'text' => content, 'summary' => (options[:summary] || ""), 'token' => get_token('edit', title)} form_data['createonly'] = "" unless options[:overwrite] form_data['section'] = options[:section].to_s if options[:section] make_api_request(form_data) end
 * I think it would be useful to to alter the gateway.rb code at github to have the bot flag passed on by default so that others won't run into a similar problem. Thank you so much again for all your help :) Chaojoker (talk) 06:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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You have some explaining to do. DarmaniLink (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Pinging the striking CU @Vanamonde93 DarmaniLink (talk) 20:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Apologies, I was under the mistaken impression that it was DarmaniLink who struck out the content. Although I stand by my earlier comment that the striking out serves no useful purpose, it contained a mildly useful contribution to the discussion and AFAICT none of SajidKhan1235's other socks (that we know of, anyway) have taken part in the AFD discussion. Jpatokal (talk) 05:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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I figured this was better suited on your talk page than in/at the AfD, but I'm disappointed you cast aspersions in my direction.

While we were in the trenches together, I genuinely came to respect you. I understand that this feeling might not have been mutual, but surely, at a minimum, if I was good enough to work with on the article and the article talk page, I'm good enough to offer my opinion on the AfD?

I get that it's not great to have opposition in a debate you might feel strongly about, but can we keep the good faith assumption intact? FWIW, I was surprised to see you recommended keeping the article, but the thought that you might not be acting in good faith has never crossed my mind.

Respectfully, ConcurrentState (talk) 02:07, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your contributions to the original article, and your opinion on the AFD is also welcome, although obviously I disagree with your argument.


 * However, it is also quite clear you are not new to Wikipedia. Maybe you have a good reason to use a burner account, maybe not, but using one seems unwise in a discussion like this where the original article is riddled with sockpuppetry. Jpatokal (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you saying that and giving my message here a generous interpretation (it's always a toss up how things get across through text).
 * And you make a good point about my experience, especially against the backdrop of all the shenanigans. I've tried to address my experience in the AfD reply, but the long and short of it is that had my account vanished a few years ago and decided to create an account again after regaining my appetite to edit again during the nonsense we were dealing with.
 * I don't have access to that account anymore on account of it being formally vanished but disclosed my ties to the vanished account to ArbCom a couple of days ago to avoid potential issues down the line just in case.
 * I suppose it would be helpful to mention some of this on my user page, but I've been waiting until the discussions I'm involved in have concluded so I can request a global rename, because I'm not sure if I have to redo the user page once renamed (i.e., if it simply results in a rename of the user page or in a redirect to a new one). ConcurrentState (talk) 03:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the context, it would have been useful to share that earlier. Please consider any aspersions un-cast. Jpatokal (talk) 05:41, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate that! ConcurrentState (talk) 07:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * It's trivially verifiable that SQ did, in fact, terminate its WLG flights, so instead of deleting this outright, you could have dug up a source you like more yourself or at the very least slapped on a cn/unreliable source template. Jpatokal (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)