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Speedy deletion nomination of Summer School Marktoberdorf


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 * I have added notability information with references. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * Corrected, thank you.. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:40, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * Corrected, thank you.. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:40, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:DNA Model Crick-Watson.jpg


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Dorset geology.png


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Dracula1st.jpeg


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:FitzwilliamMuseum.jpg


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Glyptothek Munich.jpg


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Glyptothek in München.jpg


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 * The image is neither corrupt nor empty — see WP:CSD. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Henley on Thames-Along the Thames.JPG


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 * All corrected thank you. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 19:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * You are welcome and can also remove the "more refs" request yourself if you have addressed the issues. A photo would be a good addition if you have one. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * Updated. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Updated. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Noted, thank you! —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Updated. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Healthcare in Cambridgeshire
I don't think we need citations for facts which are supported by other articles in the encyclopedia.Rathfelder (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Where does it say this in the Wikipedia guidelines, I have not seen it, or is it a personal opinion? Please give the reference, thank you! —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 23:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It seems pretty obvious to me. We have well established articles about Regional Health Authorities and the like which shows which districts were the responsibility of each, over time.  Its quite a complicated story, and referenced to statutory instruments.  Why would we want to rewrite all this in every local area?  There is nothing controversial about it, but it can be confusing.  In the same way, when we refer, for example, to Bedford, we don't need to provide a reference to show that Bedford exists.Rathfelder (talk) 11:27, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Sadly what is "pretty obvious" to one person is not pretty obvious to all. That is why there are rules and guidelines. Otherwise we would just have anarchy if we all just follow our own views. See especially Wikipedia is not a reliable source in this case:
 * "If the information on another Wikipedia page (which you want to cite as the source) has a primary or secondary source, you should be able to cite that primary or secondary source and eliminate the middleman (or middlepage in this case)."


 * I.e., don't relie on other Wikipedia pages for verifiability. So you can add the references from the pages where you think there is already a suitable reference. And add more if you think it appropriate too. For further information, see WikiProject Unreferenced articles and for general guidelines, see WP:VERIFY. I hope this helps. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:39, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think your interpretation is in line with practice. If you inspect today's featured article  70th Infantry Division (United Kingdom) - held up as an example of good work - it is full of references to other Wikipedia articles.  See When to cite. The existence of Health authorities is an example of Subject-specific common knowledge.  Rathfelder (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, but not the "facts" about them. 70th Infantry Division (United Kingdom) has 186 citations, Healthcare in Cambridgeshire has three and a notice that additional citations are needed. Since I assume you are knowledgeable in this area, you could add suitable citations. On Wikipedia, other articles are not referenced in the list of references, they are linked with internal hyperlinks. I hope this helps and happy Wikipedia editing. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * I believe the notability of authors of papers in this journal with the own existing Wikipedia entries illustrates that this is a notable subject and certainly the leading journal in the area of creative computing. I have added more information and references including notable authors, I believe meeting criterion 1 of WP:JOURNALCRIT through these authors. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * Done. However, that leaves just one redirect (a journal on using computer methods in creative endeavors, not really about creativity either) and one subcat (with only 2 entries), that doesn't really need this mothercat, I'd say. --Randykitty (talk) 08:10, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Personally I think arts journal include papers that are about creativity of artistic works at the meta-level, whereas in other disciplines, the papers themselves are the creative output. Do you disagree? There are more entries in this category now anyway. – Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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First, let me duly apologize about the quality of my English. I am doing the best I can.

In September 2015 you added the Category: Place of birth missing to the article about Manfred Broy. This article states that Manfred Broy was born in Landsberg am Lech, a district capital in Southern Germany. I knew Manfred Broy many years ago when we both worked for TUM, and I have no reason to doubt that information. So for what reason did you put him into that category? Does Wikipedia require more precise information?

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 * Should be saved. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

London Fire Brigade Museum
Hi,

I'm pretty new to Wikipedia and was recently updating the London Fire Brigade Museum page which you created. Unfortunately the museum is now closed until it moves to new premises so I've added info to that effect (along with a pic and some web references). I'm never quite sure if I'm going about things the right way though (infoboxes, web links vs references etc...) so if you don't think it looks right I'd appreciate any feedback.

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Puzzled
I am puzzled. IGI Global is predominantly a vanity press, and the article was deleted by consensus. You appear to be spending a considerable amount of effort creating directory entries on its journals, and trying to re-establish the article on the company. I'd be interested in understanding why, if you'd care to share that. Guy (Help!) 23:34, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * IGI Global is not a "vanity press" by the definition on Wikipedia. Even if it was, it is not a criterion for deletion on Wikipedia. It is an academic press widely subscribed by universities internationally with 170+ journals, even if it is not top-rated and has rather expensive publications. I understand that your opinion differs but it is just an opinion, best avoided on Wikipedia and in encyclopedias in general (IMHO!). — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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