User talk:Jpenyc

September 2023
Hello, I'm Binksternet. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Push It (Salt-n-Pepa song) have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 17:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * It was my first time adding or editing anything on wikipedia and am  merely stating facts as a participant in the creation of this project.
 * Perhaps the mention of Gordy Groove and its historical significance, which I could understand could be construed as "advertising" and "soapbox" in revering the importance of this place back in the golden era. However, the studio is no longer in existence
 * The indépendant source regarding the studio where it was recorded and the engineer's name are clearly printed on the record labels and liner credits. The background dancers names are factual. The statement regarding the video and production are factual as I was Salt N Pepa's co-manager at the time with Hurby Azor under Idolmakers Management. I recorded the record and set up the video shoot.
 * Could you point out the errors and how might you suggest it be altered to relay the pertinent information and any other suggestions.
 * Thanks Jpenyc (talk) 19:57, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * First thing is that Wikipedia is supposed to be a summary of published material, so if something is "factual" but not published, it should not be in Wikipedia.
 * Second thing is you must drop the peacock wording of "iconic track", "iconic synth riff" and "historically significant Gordy Groove Recording". Too promotional, unsupported by the literature.
 * If you want to add stuff to Wikipedia, you should look for that stuff in published accounts. For instance, Salt said in 2017 that the "Push It" vocal booth was Gordy's bathroom. (She didn't specify which model of microphone.) Alternatively, you could publish your account of the song's production in a reliable source and then ask someone here to summarize and cite it. Binksternet (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it. Leave out the embellishments. Refer to previously published material. I will look into having something published. Long overdue.
 * "Peacock wording" that gave me a chuckle, never heard that before.
 * Thanks again. Jpenyc (talk) 01:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)