User talk:Jps246

Catskill Mountains
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We appreciate your contributions to the Catskill Mountains article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing!

OK-- that's the boilerplate. Now, I realise that Jps is probably the author of the text on Angelfire. Problem is, that page is copyrighted, while all submissions to Wikipedia must be licenced under the GFDL or equivalent. There is a way to work this (I think), but first, get back to me letting me know that that's what you want to do, and I'll try to figure out how to do it. Of course, one real simple method is rewrite it-- if you reword the copyrighted stuff when you submit it to Wikipedia, you've got no problem-- your original version is copyrighted and the rewrite is GFDL. -- Mwanner | Talk 19:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

yes, jps is the author
I would like to add the text and if it's easiest just for me to rewrite it and resubmit it instead of trying to get around the copyright I put on the angelfire page, that's fine with me. I figured it was helpful information and am new to the whole wikipedia thing, so I'm just trying to figure it out.

jeff


 * Well, it's definitely easier for me if you rewrite it ;-) Wikipedia is a huge place, and trying to figure out how to do anything here can take some doing. It might also be easier for you, since there's always a chance that someone else will notice that the text is out there on the web and remove it as a copyright violation. Still, if you'd rather insert it intact, let me know and I'll dig around for it. -- Mwanner | Talk 20:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll go with the rewrite (which I've been working on while I've been poking around on here). I appreciate the help you've given me and I look forward to doing what I can, especially with the Catskills, since I grew up there and still spend plenty of time in the mountains.


 * Looks good. Let me know if you have any questions as you go along. I'm going to paste in a boilerplate welcome that has some useful info, but as I say, it's a big place.

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thanks - I think I will.

Separate geology article?
JPS,

Having read the discussion above, and then finding out who you really are (I know your dad pretty well as I was once a trail maintainer) since the edit history remains accessible as it always does here, I was wondering if you'd consider expanding that text (once it's rewritten) into a separate Geology of the Catskill Mountains article. I talked with Bob Titus (whose two books on this subject are excellent sources) about that after his fine presentation at the last 3500 Club dinner and he'd be willing to sort of review such an article (although he's too busy, probably, to actually contribute).

I have taken it upon myself to be sort of the Catskill person around here, when I have time; take a look at Category:Catskills and you will see a lot of things I've started. I also am hoping later this year to upgrade Slide Mountain to featured status; look at it and tell me what you think. I look forward to having someone else with Catskill expertise becoming a regular Wikipedian. Daniel Case 02:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup - that's my Dad - I used to be a lot more involved with all the trail maintenance stuff, but I live in Massachusetts now - so I'm only back on the occasional weekend, I'm no longer living there and he's taking care of it on his own.

A new article on the geology of the Catskills sounds interesting. I'll take what I started with and use it as a base. It'll just take me some time to beef it up and research it a bit.

I've read Mr. Titus' books too and been to a lecture or two he's given - you're right, great sources and a great lecturer to boot.

If there are other sections you need help with, let me know. Basically in the northeastern Catskills I've been pretty much everywhere. I was an Assistant forest ranger for two years which gave me a chance to hike (over and over again) just about every trail in the area and having been there over the years, I've got plenty of info on the area itself stored up. Jps246 12:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * If you want to see some models for a Catskills geology article, there are no less than five regional geology articles that have been accorded featured article status.


 * Geology of the Bryce Canyon area (however, this one got in under older FA criteria and, due to the lack of references, would not make it now).
 * Geology of the Capitol Reef area
 * Geology of the Death Valley area
 * Geology of the Grand Canyon area
 * Geology of the Zion and Kolob canyons area (likewise, older, and should probably be either upgraded to include direct citations or destarred). Daniel Case 02:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)