User talk:Jrcla2/Archive 2

George E. Allens
It seems very unlikely that George E. Allen and George E. Allen (Maine coach) are the same person; I don't think the Cumberland Allen had any connection with sports after his college career, and in the mid-40s he was busy with political jobs in Washington. I wouldn't worry about it - "George Allen" is just a very common name. Brianyoumans (talk) 15:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Ninjawarriordex
They are allowed to blank their talkpage per WP:BLANKING. Please respect that.-- Terrillja talk  03:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Paul R. Jones Collection of African American Art
An article that you have been involved in editing, Paul R. Jones Collection of African American Art, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Dystopos (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Buffalo State Bengals football coach navbox
Template:Buffalo State Bengals football coach navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Standards for coach navboxes
Sir, you recently edited four coach navboxes I have created in the past:
 * Template:Anderson Ravens football coach navbox
 * Template:California (PA) Vulcans football coach navbox
 * Template:Georgetown Tigers football coach navbox
 * Template:Saint Francis Cougars football coach navbox

In their original form, the navboxes contained information about the various coaches, including full names and periods of time coaching at the school. Your edits deleted all first names and all coaching periods. You also deleted markers I had inserted for periods of time where the coach's name was not yet known or confirmed.

Is there a standard for coach navboxes that has been adopted? I know your edits make these navboxes consistent with some others that I have seen, but my editing preference was to include this additional, useful information. I would like to restore these navboxes to my prior state. Thank you. Jlhcpa (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Question - can IP edits be converted to a registered user?
I agree with your stance about mandatory registration to be able to sign-in. On occasion, however, I have accidentally made edits before I logged in as a user. Is there some way I can replace these IP edits with edits attributed to my username? I am willing to delete all known IP edits. I am the only Wiki editor (that I know of) on the computers that have created the IP edits in question. Thanks. Jlhcpa (talk) 18:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Kearny High School
Hi, Jrcla2. Please do not add original research, such as this edit of yours to Kearny High School. Please make sure you cite a reliable source for all of the information you add or re-add to articles. You can learn how to do this at Citing sources. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 01:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Review
I've requested review myself. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Copyright cleanup process
Given your note at User:TheLeftorium, I wanted to explain to you a little bit about how WP:CCIs work. These are opened only when it is confirmed that a contributor has placed copyrighted content into multiple articles (or uploaded multiple copyrighted images). At that point, when an article has been identified as having copied content, generally all contributions by the CCI subject who placed the content are removed. If the article was created by the CCI subject, the article is blanked and listed at WP:CP. While Copyright violations authorizes the blanket removal of all content added by contributors that have been verified to have placed copyrighted content into multiple articles, we try to make sure that at least some problem exists before tagging. We do not have sufficient manpower to check to see if copyright violations exist in every section of the article. The point of the process board is to identify and clean copyright concerns from multiple point infringers as quickly as possible. There are literally thousands of articles waiting review, and when copyright is confirmed, the article is presumed to be tainted.

You can best assist by crafting new text for articles blanked and listed at WP:CP, including Kevin Kiesel, as directed at the template blanking the articles. If there are sections that you feel are not copyright concerns, you may reproduce them in the that new version if you are the sole contributor of that text, but please note on the article's talk page why you feel this text is not an issue and please be careful. At this point, future violations are likely to lead to an extended block. If that content may have been copied from a different source, it would be better to replace it as well.

If new content is not proposed for such articles, there is a very good chance that they will be deleted by whichever administrator is working WP:CP on the day they come due. Even if some of the content is not a copyright violation, the article in entirety represents an unauthorized derivative work.

While I'm here, you'll probably have noted that feedback at ANI supported the removal of your rollback. I am willing, however, to restore this to you if you will use it only to clean up blatantly disruptive edits as it is intended. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * When copyright violations are extensive and foundational, we do not have the option of retaining the articles, as the US law that governs Wikipedia includes among derivative works those works that consist of "editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications" of copyrighted work . This is one of the reasons that the template instructs that the articles need to be rewritten in temporary space linked from the article's face. The old versions have to go.


 * Copyvio is, as it instructs, only meant to be removed by administrators and OTRS agents. With several of the articles wherein User:TheLeftorium tagged limited areas, I don't see your removal of the template as a major concern. I have gone behind you to delete the older versions. But when the entire article is blanked, you do not have the option of removing it, even if you believe that the material you are exposing is infringement free, as you did at Kirk Jellerson. As I explained above, you can incorporate in your proposed replacements material that you believe is not a concern, though you should explain why. Most reviewers of CCI — if not User:TheLeftorium — only take time to verify that some duplication has occurred and do not continue searching for other sources after duplication is verified. You have since at least your first warning of January 2008 been violating Wikipedia's copyright policy. Accordingly, somebody else needs to review that text before it is restored to article space.


 * I have reblanked and will relist Kirk Jellerson. You are welcome to draft a new version of the article in temporary space.


 * If you have questions about the process, please let me know. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * This version of Kirk Jellerson is completely copyright free. I still don't understand how an infobox and basic, uniquely written four-sentence paragraph are going to be tagged as a violation. It will take immeasurable more work to re-create the article (of what is shown in the link provided) than it would be for you to just remove the copyrighted part and move on with it. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think it takes immeasurable more work to copy and paste into a new edit window (which is conveniently linked from the template's face) than to selectively delete an article, it may be because you're not familiar with selective deletion, which is a multistage process. Moving the temporary page into article space is also a multistage process, but one with fewer steps. I'm willing to work to help clean up these copyright problems (as, for example, with Woodbury Public Schools), but the process has evolved for a reason and if you have interest in these articles you need to work within that process to preserve them. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Having said that, I do need to be sure that you realize that you can only copy content on Wikipedia that you have yourself authored unless you provide proper attribution. I see that on 20 April 2008, you "moved" the article Arkansas Razorbacks basketball to Arkansas Razorbacks men's basketball by copying and pasting the content of one into another. Since Wikipedia's contributors do not relinquish copyright to their contributions, but merely liberally license them for reuse, we do have to give credit. In such cases, it is necessary to move the page rather than paste contents; if there is a history at the new title that prevents the page being moved, you can ask for an administrator's assistance at Requested moves. If you are splitting contents or duplicating them from one article to another, you can attribute in the edit summary; see Copying within Wikipedia for more. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wow
Wow, you're amazing, by the end of the month you'll have gotten like every single coach-- Yutsi Talk/  Contributions  02:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah I'm doing my best with all of these coaches' articles. Baby steps... Jrcla2 (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Really?
Why you gotta be that guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aywinter (talk • contribs) 02:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for removing the copyright issues from the articles I tagged. Much appreciated. :)  The left orium  21:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Tom Conrad‎
Oops... I didn't see the navbox cats! Well caught there. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 21:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I knew it was probably a mistake since navbox categories aren't generally looked for on quick article scans. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

FYI
I created the Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Coach of the Year. It has a long way to go to be a FL like the Player of the year, but I thought you might want to look at it and help make it better. Remember (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ehh I suppose I'm up for another FL run. Having already done the ACC POY, this COY page shouldn't be nearly as much effort since the basic format was already pre-laid out for us to copy/paste. I'll see what I can do. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Great job so far! Thanks so much for the help. Remember (talk) 14:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No prob'em. Once again I probably won't be of great help when it comes to references because I hate finding/formatting them. C'est la vie. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Regardless, you made the page a whole lot better. Sorry to hear that you will be retiring soon, but you have been a great help while you were here. Cheers. Remember (talk) 16:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking it to peer review! You did a great job on the page! Remember (talk) 14:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Odd coincidence
It looks like your team will be playing my team tomorrow night. Too bad we both can't win. Remember (talk) 13:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah what are the chances right? Let's put it this way – I don't think anyone (myself included) expects W&M to win, but we have already beaten two ACC schools on the road this season (incl. conference champ Maryland, whose only home loss was to us). This a very down year for UNC, but even that being the case they're still heavily favored against us. I'm just excited that of all of the first round NIT games, only the UNC–W&M one is being shown on ESPN. I hope it's a good game regardless of the outcome. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:38, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually expect you to win. UNC has lots of problems.  Loads of talent, but no focus and no fight.  Hopefully, this will change in the NIT, but I think W & M may just want it more (like we played against C of C). Remember (talk) 17:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

message
Eagle4000 (talk) 15:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 22:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Big Ten Player of the Year edit (Bobby Jackson)
I teach a class on the history of college basketball and a number of my students have inaccurately cited this page. The reason for this is because, although there is a footnote it is a very small and distant reference. I left the footnote so visitors to the page could see who originally won the award before it was vacated. With my edits I was trying to mirror what the Big Ten actually reports (see the footnote you mentioned). The Big Ten doesn't even list who originally won it, they simply say it is a vacated award. I would appreciate, for clarity and accuracies sake if we could change it to mirror the official results of the award as reported by the Big Ten. Thank you. Mattbrowning (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)mattbrowning

User:Mayumashu
He responded on his talk page about the double spacing after hatnotes and agreed to stop doing it. I also responded at ANI about it, but it doesn't need to be discussed there anymore. LonelyMarble (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Griffin mascot?
Want to try to give an official DYK sendoff for the new William and Mary Griffin mascot? You could see what I have done here. Remember (talk) 17:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your edits. I have made some more edits and gone live with the article here - Griffin (mascot).  Please review and see if there is anything else that should be added or changed. Thanks. Remember (talk) 13:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for making it, you did an impressive job. If it does get a DYK nod, I probably won't consider that something I've significantly contributed to accomplishing. You did 99% of the work, I'm just happy to help clean it up. I was going to make the Griffin article anyway, but it was momentarily low on my to-do list, so it may have take a few weeks to get to it. Gotta say, the costume and the design turned out much better than I was anticipating (thank God it wasn't a damn pug!). Jrcla2 (talk) 14:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah but that 1% is the percent I don't want to do. Thanks for the help. I've nominated the article here Template talk:Did you know. Remember (talk) 14:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox format opinion
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

IP threat
Nice threat there, tough guy. If you weren't such an ass about your edits, people wouldn't troll against you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.254.105 (talk) 22:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

feel free to get me suspended, i'm going on vacation. We'll resume this when I get back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlanticVerde (talk • contribs) 23:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
 Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Independent/MEAC POY
I don't know of anywhere that logs the Division I Independent POY anywhere. Since these players aren't affiliated with a conference there is no media guide to consult. I know David Holston of Chicago State won last year. As for the MEAC, their record keeping is spotty. You have probably looked at their media guide that only shows All-Conference teams with no note of POY. The SWAC has a similar problem. Their media guide goes back about 20 years, but they had POYs before that (Avery Johnson won twice but isn't cited in the guide). Sorry. Rikster2 (talk) 12:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Available for template help?
Since you did some awesome work on the W&J nav template, I am wondering if you would be able to look at another template, and possibly offer some advice. I have been trying to update W&JPresidents, but it still looks kinda sloppy, with the three separate rows showing all the time. Is there a way to make that template more like a single row, with three subrows that can be activated with the "show" button? Thanks! -GrapedApe (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Dude! Amazing work!--GrapedApe (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Gracias. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox controversy
I have been debating with folks at WP:HOCKEY about navboxes. Can you please make sure that I am representing the college basketball position on the policy User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Hockey mafia issue correctly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * What you have so far seems fine. My one question would be, what is considered a "notable" template? Without knowing your definition yet, I would recommend adding in that spot. But if your objective is for some sort of individualized navbox then I understand why that wouldn't be appropriate. I read your entire debate with the wp:hockey guys. I have to admit, they are a stubborn bunch. I agree with all of your arguments made, and practically none of theirs, but if there is any chance at all you're going to "win" the debate, you're going to have to call in all cavalry from every single sports WikiProject that encourages navboxes to help you out in the consensus-building time. It's clear that wp:hockey members are fiercely loyal and dependent on one another to defend their ideas from all other conventionality. They like being different for the sake of being different, no other reason really. Oh well c'est la vie. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. it seems like the wp:hockey members are really thriving on being different. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * This debate is focussed on templates for bio articles. I do think that a WP user should be able to expect consistency on athletes. That is a goal that should be worked towards. If I am leaving any sports or types of important templates that cut across sports out let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * What about women's college basketball (or is your user page for men's sports only)? They have the Naismith and Wooden Awards as well as the Wade Trophy and for MVPs. They've got  and maybe  for Other Awards. And under Major/League Championships, they've got Category:NCAA Women's Basketball Championship. Just a thought. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "They like being different for the sake of being different, no other reason really." Is that any worse than being the same for the sake of being the same? It just so happens that a pretty sizeable majority of the hockey project agrees that the templates Tony is pushing are of minimal value.  I think we've articulated quite well why we oppose those templates.  The only response I seem to get is "this is the way other sports do it".  There are a lot of things that the NFL and MLB projects do that many of us on the hockey side find ridiculous, but we've generally left those projects to organize articles under their banner as they see fit.  I personally find it a shame that similar courtesy is not being returned. Resolute 22:18, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I am giving up on getting immediate agreement from WP:HOCKEY. I think the way to go is to get immediate consensus on the sports with long-established professional leagues with high attendance and television contracts.  Please give me some feedback on my draft at User talk:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Hockey mafia issue.  I am working on the men because by virtue of television contracts, which make their sports higher paying, they are more notable.  The womens sports can fall in line with these ideas if they choose.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

If you were bored...
...you could work on setting up a List of Men's College Basketball awards article that would follow the template of the List of National Basketball Association awards. Just if you are bored. Remember (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha thanks but I don't think I'll be that bored, especially considering how many college basketball awards there already are and how many spring up every year. I think a page like that might get really screwy, really fast. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it would be a pain, but you seem to be a glutton for punishment with the way you have been working recently. So I just thought I would point you to another area that you could work on. Remember (talk) 14:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I won't be bored for months (check out my To-do list on my user page). I quoted you because I think it's apt. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool. Remember (talk) 15:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that
Misread the dates on the BJMS page, I should have checked that over first. Sorry about the inappropriate tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmcw (talk • contribs) 16:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox proposal
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Charles Jenkins could use an article
Now that Charles Jenkins repeated as Haggerty winner and was also CAA POY it seems like he deserves an article. He's also an honorable mention All-American and will be back next year so he could "three-peat" the Haggerty. Interested in taking a shot? Rikster2 (talk) 15:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I had been thinking about making his article for a while now but had put the idea on the back burner since there were more important articles I felt needed to be created first. However, I am interested in making it and may do it soon, but for the next couple of weeks will be pretty busy so I may or may not get to it right away (then again, I have a proclivity to just say screw it and sit down and make an article on the spot, so who knows). In either case I'll make it, whether it be now(ish) or in a while. And unless some player comes out of nowhere, Jenkins is the clear favorite to three-peat. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:ANI and Marysville, Ohio
An issue in which you have been an involved party has been brought up at WP:ANI. Please feel free to read my comments both at ANI and at Talk:Marysville, Ohio, and if you feel that I have mischaracterized your comments, in any way, do not hesitate to say so. Thank you. 98.82.23.93 (talk) 04:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Connie Yori
Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
for the fix to Template:Maggie Dixon Award ; I'm embarrassed I missed that. (And nice job onConnie Yori)-- SPhilbrick  T  00:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome and thanks. We all miss edits and make mistakes on Wikipedia, that's why anyone's allowed to edit. It's just one big double-checking collaboration. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Case Western Reserve Spartans football coach navbox
Template:Case Western Reserve Spartans football coach navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. - Mobius Clock  15:43, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Henry C. Wolf Law Library
Here are some examples of verbatim copying:

The source says:

The article says:

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The article says:

The source says:

The article says:

Feel free to rewrite the article at Talk:Henry C. Wolf Law Library/Temp (you can save the stuff that has already been properly rewritten). Regards, Theleftorium (talk) 21:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

User talk:A. B.
I've started a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your request for my help; I'm tied up and can't help you away, so I've asked others to look into the matter. The thread is User talk:A. B.#Cut/paste offender. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 12:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * PS, I encourage you to engage directly and cordially with Jerzey jon -- he's editing in good faith and I want to make sure he doesn't get a bad taste in his mouth from this. We need all the volunteer editors we can get.


 * Thanks! -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 14:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

New Unreviewed Article Tag
Nothing "offensive" is meant by posting of that tag. The "New Unreviewed Article" tag indicates that your new unreviewed article is such. I fail to see anything "offensive" in that. Congratulations on all your contributions, but, the tag stands. I will review the article and tag for cleanup if needed. Anowlin (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Update
I see you already removed it... Anowlin (talk) 16:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes and I see you removed my comment from your talk page. If you're trying to hide anything negative so other people won't see it, just remember that there's always an edit history to look at. And if you see nothing offensive about the tag considering it's rare that such a well-referenced, well-formatted NPOV article is created on Wikipedia, then I suggest you re-think it from my point of view. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:11, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Non-free files in your user space
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DYK for John Rinka
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

ACC FLC
In reply to your note, I've left comments on the FLC page. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 14:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Charles Jenkins (basketball)
Hello! Your submission of Charles Jenkins (basketball) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 12:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Coach of the Year/archive1
Hi, are you keeping track of this FLC? A couple users have left comments in the past few days, but you have not responded to them. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Charles Jenkins (basketball)
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 13:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC) 06:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Administrator
I don't know if you want an admin position, but I think you have definately earned the ability to become one. I was thinking of nominating you, if you wanted it. Remember (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I am honored you would consider nominating me, I really appreciate it. Adminship isn't something I particularly desire for a couple reasons. The biggest is that I enjoy editing and creating new articles too much; if my time had to be spent sorting out disagreements and working the behind-the-scenes technical parts of WP, I would have far less time to do what I signed onto WP to do. Another compelling reason for me to stay away is that I am too hot-headed to be an admin. I take things personally that I shouldn't and generally react to things before thinking about them. Those aren't really qualities that admins should have. But again, thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 14:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. I don't really want to be an admin either, but I thought that you have been doing such a great job at creating lost of high-quality articles that you deserved it if you wanted it. Remember (talk) 15:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

ACC Coach of the Year
Congratulations on getting the article up to FL status. It wouldn't have gotten there without your hard work. Please keep up the great work. Remember (talk) 12:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you got the meat of the work done though by laying out the page. All I did was add references and make tweaks according to what the FLC reviewers wanted. It was exhausting but worth it. I've only had 2 FLs, and both were in collaboration with you. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

W&J
Since you're pretty skilled at creating navbox templates, I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on ways to improve W&J. I've added a lot of articles since you created it, and I've been having trouble finding an organizational scheme that makes sense. Care to take a stab at re-arranging it?--GrapedApe (talk) 17:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sometimes school navboxes contain pages that don't fit nicely into any subgroup, and just as often these pages are only tangentially related through their relationship with the school. Subgroups called "Other" (or, in the change I just made to W&J, "Related") are acceptable to use. It's not ideal, but for the lack of a better nomenclature it has to suffice. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Sherman White
Yes, go for it - White's story is a good one and he deserves an article. If you search him in Google News archives you can read some of the contemporary news articles about him. He was actually disqualified from All-American status (and from the offcial NCAA statistical leader boards) when the scanbdal broke, but the Sporting News had already mailed out their issue naming him National Player of the Year - which is why he won TSN NPOY in 1951 but wasn't an All-American. I created the All-American list to write those articles, but realistically I can't do them all. It's a pretty good way for me to track too - I have hit a couple of DAB situations by seeing the links go "live" on there. Good luck! Rikster2 (talk) 08:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jason Conley
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer
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Rollback rights
Per your request, I've granted you rollback rights once again. Please do take care in its use, I reviewed a number of your recent edits and I'm satisfied that you can use it correctly. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Jay Handlan
Hi. Regarding Jay Handlan, I don't think that the basketball player and the West Virgina elector are the same person. According to the Political Graveyard, if you click on the 1928 following Handland's name (which leads here) you'll see that it leads to a 1928 election - which means I think that he was running in that election, not that he was born in that year. Obviously he didn't run in an election the year he was born, so I think that these are two different people. Canadian  Paul  15:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out. It was probably his father then since it wasn't him, but I'm not sure so I'm not including that either. I've taken out the incorrect information and changed his birth year to circa 1931 because that's approximately when he was born, since he graduated college in 1952. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:52, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of NCAA Division I men's basketball players with 13 or more blocks in a game
An article that you have been involved in editing, List of NCAA Division I men's basketball players with 13 or more blocks in a game, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. TM 07:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymar Morgan
You may have an opinion on Articles for deletion/Raymar Morgan.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

claims of notability need to be substantiated by actual coverage in third party sources
Please provide actual third party coverage for Pape Sy. Active Banana (talk) 20:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! . Active Banana (talk) 21:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jay Handlan
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
Help us new page patrollers out by asking for the Autopatrolled flag. You can request it here. -- Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 00:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Paul Unruh
Hello! Your submission of Paul Unruh at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK problem
Hello! Your submission of Les Witte at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Little  Mountain  5   21:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Helms All-America templates
Hey - thanks for the note on these and knock yourself out! Just so you know, the Consensus teams started in 1929 - I just ran out of energy updating the main AA pages after doing 1939-2009. I guess this is my cue to finish them! This would mean Consensus templates for these years I suppose. I've been off Wikipedia for awhile - busy at work and currently out of the country at the end of a 2-week trip. Glad to see you're knocking out the AA articles! Rikster2 (talk) 12:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Succession boxes
Jrcla2, saw you deleted succession boxes from Branch Bocock with the edit summary "Succession boxes are obsolete when there are navboxes and a year-by-year coaching record". I don't know of consensus on that. In fact, there is discussion open about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 07:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sherman White
Hi, I just followed the "paper trail" for you to tell you what happened. The hook was approved as-is on July 13 (see here). On July 16, when the hook was put into the queue, another editor pulled it and posted a discussion for it on the DYK talk page (click on Wikipedia talk:Did you know), asking for a different hook. One of the rules of DYK (and Wikipedia) is not to libel living persons, which this hook pretty much does. I know it's true, but it's still libel. It was put back on the suggestions page, and on July 17, a different editor suggested the alternate hook, which was then approved by yet another editor.

Usually the page creator is contacted when there's a problem with the hook. But since your hook was initially approved, you were never brought into the loop.

At this point, you have two choices. Either leave the hook alone, and let it appear on the main page in about 12 hours' time. Or complain right now on Wikipedia talk:Did you know, and offer some kind of solution to the problem &mdash; another alternate hook?

Good luck, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. I'm less frustrated now that I know there was a change due to DYK guidelines and not due to some editor thinking his is the "better" hook. It's a little annoying that the hook I wrote can't be used even though it's 100% true and 100% verifiable, but at this point I'll just let the new hook go through unopposed. It's the best article I've ever written and am particularly proud of it, it's just ashame that the hook doesn't do it justice. Thanks for your help. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * It is a very good article and deserves a better hook. I'd like to suggest one, and if you like, you could post your request on the Wikipedia talk:Did you know, explaining that the hook was changed without your knowledge. How about:
 * ALT2: ... that Sherman White is remembered as the best college basketball player in New York City history whom barely anyone got to see play? Yoninah (talk) 20:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Would that be acceptable? The source for that statement is here, so it's not like I just made it up myself. I'm much happier with that alternative than the one presently in the queue. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure, go ahead and suggest it. It's already referenced in the article as note 7, so it meets all rules. (BTW, I didn't see it in note 2, which is also cited, so you may want to remove the reference to note 2 there). Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 1,500 viewers viewed your page after the hook appeared on the Main Page! You can always monitor how many people click on the page each day with this link. Yoninah (talk) 18:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
--  HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   21:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Your Question About My Account
You left the following message about my account "Can I ask why you created a new account by the name of Dream big4ever, and then proceeded to send yourself a welcome message? I'm completely vexed as to why you have done this. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)"

A: My account is Chicaneo. A family member just created their own account (Dream big4ever) from the computer in the next room. I sent her a welcome message and I am helping her start her user page. I suppose it appears weird because we are using the same IP address? Chicaneo (talk) 05:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Another question: do you check Special:Log/newusers? Jrcla2 (talk) 05:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I am a member of the Welcoming Committee and I used to regularly send messages to new users who appeared on the log, but I have not done this in a while. Why do you ask?  That is a odd question. Chicaneo (talk) 05:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, forget that question. I misinterpreted what your edits were. However, I do have one concern regarding your edits. You are constantly taking new, unedited usernames and putting a space in them to "start user page" (just a few examples: ). User pages are for the users themselves to edit, nobody else is supposed to touch them. If they want their user pages to remain redlinked and unedited it's their prerogative, not yours or mine or anyone else's. The only time it's acceptable to edit someone else's user page is if it's blatant vandalizing and/or libelous/offensive. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The "start user pages" you are referring to were done in conjunction with some welcome messages I posted on new user talk pages probably within the last 48 hours. I also put a "." in the user page to start the page.  I have been doing this when I welcome new users because Wikipedia has a glitch - unless users actually have a user page, their user name does not appear in a user search.  In the past I have had friends with new accounts who are looking for each other but can not find one another because neither knows how to create their user page and thus their user names do not appear in a user search.  Since this is obviously a problem I will cease this practice & I will simply start their talk page with a welcome message but leave the user page alone. Chicaneo (talk) 05:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sherman White (basketball)
-- Cirt (talk) 12:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Kindly delete the page when read
Kindly delete the page when read (visit my talk page) Ron951 (talk). I'm not trying to be a nuisance. Don't know how the user gets informed about the message on a thread. If you do, do let me know also ..Thanks Ron951 (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

W&J
Thanks for the help on this template, and for defending its honour from scurrilous attacks. Plus, thanks for the barnstar recognition. You're a mensch.--GrapedApe (talk) 18:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Have you reviewed the FL nomination 2010 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans?
Take a look here to review the featured list nomination for the 2010 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans page. Not sure I love the new format, but if most do then so be it. It does have implications for past and future other AA entries so you should take a look. Rikster2 (talk) 01:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you capped your comments without deciding to oppose or support. Is there anything I can do to get your support?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens football, 1889–1899
Hi, I noticed you created the page Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens football, 1889–1899, and I was wondering where you found all the games and scores. I would like to create a few like this myself, but I can't find anything. Thanks,  Eagles   24/7  (C)  23:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I used their online media guide, as I recall. It should have the game-by-game results of every season they've played, which is also how I've done the same for Richmond and W&M seasons. I recommend condensing every decade into one page each like I did for W&M, unless a specific season is especially notable (e.g. the 2007 Delaware season you made in which they were national runners-up). Jrcla2 (talk) 01:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Found it, thanks. I'm working on the 1900–1909 teams right now at User:Eagles247/Delaware. Thanks again,  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:19, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I feel foolish
I feel foolish, after seeing that you added the Maggie Dixon Award to Jeff Walz (basketball). You see, I created the Maggie Dixon award template (although I see you helped clean it up.) After creating it, I was disappointed to see how many recipients were redlinked, so I put Jeff Walz on my to-do list.

Then I created the article, and never even added the template. D'oh!-- SPhilbrick  T  01:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Redlands, CA
I added a link to a website that has a list of former Redlands employees that receive in excess of $100,000 a year.

It is not advertising or using Wikipedia as a soapbox it is a verifiable fact using public records.

The Wikipedia article on Bell, CA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell,_California covers the “Investigation of city officials' salaries”.

What is the difference? It is factual, important, and relevant.

PanchoIII —Preceding unsigned comment added by PanchoIII (talk • contribs) 05:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Redlands
Do you undo the edit or do I?

Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by PanchoIII (talk • contribs) 05:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC) --PanchoIII (talk) 05:32, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello, regarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Bihaly
Can u please explain me whats happening with that article. Thank u in advanced, because i cannot see what is the problem --Palikalane (talk) 05:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens football, 1889–1899
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens football, 1889–1899 has to itself have at least one category on it; the fact that its subpages are in categories does not change the fact that it has to be in a category somewhere too. No article is ever allowed to be left permanently uncategorized. The tag stays on the article until the article itself has at least one category on it. It doesn't have to be in any of the same categories as the redirects are, but it still has to have a category directly on it. Bearcat (talk) 04:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I use bold to make a point. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And you can spare the sarcasm, too. Bearcat (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Who's being sarcastic? I use bold all the time. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:39, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Input Needed - Please share your thoughts on AfD:Category:Junior College men's basketball players
Category:Junior College men's basketball players is being Nominated for Deletion. I think the category is very valid and would like CBB project members to chime in as well. You can do so here. My personal opinion is that having a list of these individuals is interesting and would not be captured anywhere else. Of course, I created the page too. Rikster2 (talk) 11:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

List of basketball players who have scored 100 points in a single game‎
I improved this list a while ago but didn't really finish it. I intended to bring it to FL in the future. But I see that you are trying to do that in User:Jrcla2/sandbox. So, I am just wondering if we could co-nom together when it is finished.— Chris! c / t 03:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about editing you userspage. But I still want to be able to tweak it. So can I copy the content to my userpage?— Chris! c / t 04:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you are right. I will let you finish whatever you plan to do. And I will edit once you move the content of your page to the actual list. Again sorry about editing you userspage. I couldn't resist editing it. I guess that is another type of Wikipedia addiction.— Chris! c / t 04:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I started the analysis of the sources used on the talk page. Please comment on it.— Chris! c / t 03:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Jrcla2! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot notifying you on behalf of the the unreferenced biographies team that 22 of the articles that you created  are currently tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 1) Larry Arico -
 * 2) Mickey Heinecken -
 * 3) Mike Kemp -
 * 4) Marion Kirby -
 * 5) Neal Mitchell -
 * 6) Jim Miceli (American football) -
 * 7) Jim Fleming (American football) -
 * 8) Larry McElreavy -
 * 9) Tommy Tate (American football) -
 * 10) Art Raimo -


 * 11. Darren Rizzi
 * 12. Dave Cohen
 * 13. Joe Trainer
 * 14. Gordy Combs
 * 15. Bill Lacey (American football)
 * 16. Bill Russo (American football)
 * 17. Kevin Morris (American football)
 * 18. Jim Parady
 * 19. Marty Fine
 * 20. Gary Reho
 * 21. Dave Arnold (American football)

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 22:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Season articles
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Murray Wier
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2009 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans/archive1
I thought you might consider commenting on Featured list candidates/2009 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans/archive1, which is getting to be an old nom, since you supported Featured list candidates/2010 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jrcla, can you revisit Featured list candidates/2009 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans/archive1 to ensure that your concerns have been addressed and if possible, declare whether you support, oppose, or are neutral toward the list's promotion to FL status? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I always forget to do that. Whoops. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

All-American notes
There is a policy issue to be resolved that I mentioned at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

All-American list content discussion
We are attempting to set a permanent All-American list content policy. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Grady Wallace
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

MEAC Player of the Year
Jrcla2 - You asked back in the Spring about the MEAC POY. I have actually been able to confirm all MEAC POYs from 1972-Present with the exception of 1981. As soon as I track that one down (or get confirmation that none was named - which might be the case) I'll create the Template and article. If you can find out who won it that year, let me know. I have had great success finding these and other info with Google News archive searches and a couple of other library sources that scan and index newspaper articles. Of course, that will make it a pain to cite them, but what can you do? Rikster2 (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, amazing work. I actually emailed the MEAC resources director (or w/e the title was) back in the spring about the POYs and got no response. Typical. Kudos on the labor to find the winners. When I have a bit of time (I'm at work right now...shh) I'll see if I can't find the 1981 POY. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thought for career blocks article
I saw your new NCAA career blocks article - nice work. One thought - it might be an interesting add to note that David Robinson would have finished #3 on the list (516 blocks) had the NCAA officially kept the stat. If you look at Robinson's basketball-reference.com page, his college stats show totals for all four years. I am pretty sure the source of all the info on that site comes from NBA Registers. There are other guys for whom their "unofficial totals" would make the list (e.g. - Patrick Ewing had 493 blocks, Ralph Sampson had 462 and Hakeem Olajuwon had 454). However, Robinson is kind of a special case since half of his career is in the record books and the other half isn't. I thought a note similar to the one you did for Robert Parish in the rebounding article might be appropriate. Rikster2 (talk) 11:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's funny because I actually had been wondering what happened to Robinson in the career list because I knew he set the single season record with 200+. I'll add a paragraph about some of the notable college shot-blockers who aren't on this list because their career blocks weren't officially registered. Thanks for the idea. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mickell Gladness
-- Cirt (talk) 06:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Asst coaches on navboxes
Where was the discussion about assistant coaches on navboxes.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Bob Harrison
Just being curious. How do you know the Bob Harrison that scored 100+ point is the one who played for Minneapolis Lakers?— Chris! c / t 19:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * By piecing together all of the evidence:
 * Basketball-reference says Bob Harrison went to high school in Toledo, Ohio.
 * Basketball-reference also lists his birth date as August 12, 1927. The archived newspaper article says a 13-year old 8th grader named Bob Harrison, from Toledo, Ohio, achieved the feat on February 3, 1941. The NBA player Bob Harrison was exactly 13 years old as of February 3, 1941.
 * NBA player Harrison attended UMichigan, which is only 1 hour's drive from Toledo.
 * NBA player Harrison also coached Kenyon College, which is in Ohio (less compelling argument, yes, but very "coincidental" to say the least). Jrcla2 (talk) 19:43, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: 2010 UCLA Region-NCAA Tournament
Hello Jrcla2. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on 2010 UCLA Region-NCAA Tournament to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Andy Wolfe
I believe you are mistaken with the source on Wolfe. It says "He eventually earned his law degree from the University of San Francisco and practiced in Oakland until his retirement several years ago." So he was still alive "several years" before 2007 and the implication is that he still is. Either way, Category:Possibly living people is for those "for whom no documentation has existed for a decade or longer". No matter how you interpret the source, it is clear he has been alive within the last decade, thus he deserves all the proper protections and considerations of Category:Living people. Canadian  Paul  04:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that there was a threshold of a decade or longer in order to qualify. Nevermind then, I suppose he fits the bill. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:W&Mcats
Hi - may I ask why you want to remove this? It is transcluded on many W&M pages. Thanks. 7 23:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it's pretty crappy, I've never been very fond of it (even though it's my own work) and I've decided it'd be better just to get rid of it. Jrcla2 (talk) 23:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Anthony Roberts (basketball)
 — Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

1929-38 Consensus All-America teams
I am close to converting these articles (and matching templates) to match the others (Consensus team with the individual teams below) and wanted to make sure you are OK with my losing the Helms POY designation on these today. Prior to 1929, Helms was the only All-American source so those articles would stay as is. The thought is to convert these 10 articles and corresponding templates over the next month. Any issues? The difference with these vs. 1939-present is that there is no consensus second team, only a first team. A side benefit is fewer redlinks in the templates than with the 10-man Helms squads. Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 21:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah go for it. It needs to be historically accurate, so whether I like the changes or not (which I don't mind) is irrelevant. Looks like we'll have to TfD the 1929 through 1938 Helms All-American templates and replace them with NCAA Consensus All-Americans templates (with no subdivisions). Like you said, fewer articles to make in the long run, which given the back-up of All-Americans, is fine by me. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Do we need to TfD the templates or can we just move them? In either case, we can do them as we go. I also added the link for the new basketball season to the Season template.  If you want a change of pace, you can start it.  Otherwise, I will at some point.  I just want to make sure someone who knows what they are doing starts it! Rikster2 (talk) 21:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I created & applied the 1929-38 templates and the 1938 article. I'll do the other articles as I can. Can you take care of getting the 1929-38 Helms templates deleted? Rikster2 (talk) 04:33, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah no problem. I'll take care of those. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gene Englund
The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Verboten?
Succession boxes ... can you point me to the prohibition? tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball Jrcla2 (talk) 12:44, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That looks to me like a worthy discussion, still in its early stages. I would suggest you ping some of the likely subjects to have them opine as well.  I don't see it as a conclusive consensus at this point (and, as you will see, have a contrary view).  Cheers.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball players
Template:Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball players has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Rikster2 (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Idea
Hey - Given the recent discussion around templates and succession boxes, it seems like we may need to look towards getting a little more energy around the WP:CBB project and develop something like this from WP:CFB. I do think a first step would be re-energizing a bgger core group around driving this. Right now there are only a few of us who are really involved with the project. I'd feel better if we could get a bigger group together to set standards, set prioritites (I'd love to start get a schedule to get past seasons, etc developed). I also think tighter alignment with WP:CFB would be good as well (though we don't have to be exactly the same). Thoughts? Rikster2 (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it'd be a good idea but it would take massive participation to get it up to snuff with WP:CFB standards. I am willing to participate on getting it going in time, but from a personal standpoint I want to focus my efforts on the consensus and Helms All-American players for now. WP:CFB certainly sets the bar pretty high as far as unity and large-scale organization goes (WP:NBA is really good too), but like you said, before we could even embark on such a conquest we'd have to really solicit current and prospective WP:CBBALL members to get on board. Step 1 is recruitment. Again, in time I'll help, but for now I have too long of a to-do list and want to feel good about that before trying this. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Rudometkin
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Harry Kelly
Hey - saw you have Kelly on your priority list - that's good, he definitely rates an article. However, I am pretty certain he wasn't a 4-time SWAC POY. I have seen newspaper stories confirming Larry Smith as the 1980 SWAC POY (Kelly's freshman year) and Kelly's SWAC HOF bio only claims 1982 and 1983 (http://www.swac.org/hallfame/2006swachof.html). Just a heads up - I have seen a reference that claims Kelly was 4-time SWAC POY and its probably the same one you have seen, but I think its yet another case of poor record keeping on the part of the SWAC schools. Rikster2 (talk) 12:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. When I read four-time POY in that article we've both seen, it took me aback because I thought Tony Dunkin was the only four-time conference POY in NCAA history. I'm willing to bet that what the article meant was that Kelly was a four-time all-conference selection. I trust his SWAC HOF bio much more than a human interest piece by a geriatric reporter. Thanks for the heads up. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you'd like to think reporters check their sources, but not always. I'm pretty sure Kelly was also a 4-time Honorable mention AP All-American (I know for a fact he was in 1980, 82 & 83 - just not sure about 1981) - which is a pretty big deal for a small-conference guy.  Rikster2 (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dick Ives
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Next four articles
I will commit to doing these articles over the next few weeks: Bob Mattick, Gale McArthur, Joe Richey and Wyndol Gray. I may get to others, but wanted to help you prioritize. Rikster2 (talk) 12:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks for letting me know. I'm actually going to be in Miami all weekend starting this afternoon and won't be getting back until really late (1 am.-ish) on Sunday night, so my editing will be sparse at best over the next few days. By the way, not to be cynical (which I kind of am), but don't you think it was a little "coincidental" that immediately after putting Harry Kelly (basketball) on my userpage, someone who hadn't edited in a month and has barely edited on Wikipedia at all decides to make it? I am actually a little upset at that because I wanted to claim the article's creation, but I get the feeling that the creator wanted the glory for such an important basketball figure. Oh well, I guess I can still 5x expand it and make it a DYK anyway. C'est la vie. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I thought the timing was a little weird. Wikipedia editing patterns would be an interesting sociological study.  My userpage has been getting a lot of hits since I added infoboxes and expanded my to dos (500+ this month).  It even showed up in a Google search the other day - not sure how I feel about that. Rikster2 (talk) 13:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bob Kinney
-- Cirt (talk) 18:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of List of people with reduplicated names for deletion
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Re: Most Outstanding Player indicator on championship templates
FYI, I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball on the formatting of the Most outstanding player tags you added to the championship templates. Your comments and input will be appreciated. –Grondemar 23:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bud Ogden
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ralph Ogden
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Ed Koffenberger
Hey - I found a reference with a lot of pretty interesting info on this guy that should go in his article. He played sports at both UNC and Duke, played three varsity sports - including suiting up for both schools in football in the same season. I will put it in the article later, but here is the reference (p. 229): http://books.google.com/books?id=WW7EgBfQn_MC&pg=PA32&dq=%22ed+koffenberger%22+duke+north+carolina&hl=en&ei=AnyjTOjMH8H38AbPxbXQCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22ed%20koffenberger%22%20duke%20north%20carolina&f=false If you'd rather write the section let me know. Just found it very interesting. Rikster2 (talk) 17:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, that is interesting. I'll be curious to see what you add later. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bill Erickson
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Comments
How do I remove them from my page without hiding them? Because if that's possible, I'll do it. Because I see you've removed my comments from your talk page as well (either that or you've moved them out of sight, which is the same as hiding them if I'm not mistaken?). Let me know, because if I can store them without displaying them, as you are implying, I'd be interested to know how that's done.

Commons question
I tagged that hilarious image under the catch-all speedy tag. Should be good to go. --GrapedApe (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Damn dude!
You are fast on these All-Americsan articles. If you're interested in doing any of the ones I said I'd do feel free - just let me know so I don't try to do them too. Just want to give you options if any of those were particularly interesting to you. I have had a brutal stretch at work and have been focusing on less intellectually taxing WP stuff like the All-American articles, categorizing, and putting WP:CBB on talk pages! I should get back in the swing early next week. Rikster2 (talk) 21:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't really thought about the next article or two, but if I decide that any of the ones you mentioned are interesting, I'll let you know. And don't worry about not creating AA articles at the expeditious rate at which I'm going. Revamping the consensus pages and adding categories are just as important in the grand scheme of the WikiProject. Thanks for giving me the green light for those articles, just in case. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Thomas Reap for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Thomas Reap, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Thomas Reap until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. TYelliot (talk) 22:47, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for George Munroe
The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bill Henry (basketball)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gene Rock
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Question
Have you ever considered becoming an admin? You've been an editor since 2006, have +36k edits, created 400+ articles, and a lot of DYKs. I see your name on a lot of templates and college sports articles. I'd nominate you, if you would accept. Think about it, and let me know.-GrapedApe (talk) 05:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment. I'm more interested in the creating, writing and editing parts of Wikipedia however. Those facets play to my strengths, not bureaucracy (I tend to react hastily and with emotion, not forethought). If you, however, want to become an admin down the road, let me know and I'll support you. You're light years ahead of where I was at that point into my Wikipedia career. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm with you: I'm here to write interesting articles, not to play the game. Keep up the good work.  By the way, if you get the chance, I'd like your thoughts on Washington & Jefferson Presidents football.--GrapedApe (talk) 04:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bill Green (basketball)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jack Parkinson (basketball)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Herb Wilkinson
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Leo Byrd
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Things might be coming to a head on succession boxes
I have been in a pretty serious back and forth on these on the Jon Scheyer article. Got a feeling it will end in arbitration - which is probably the right place for some of this stuff to get out there. I put my finger on why they bug me so much (beyond the appearance) - there is zero requirement of notability for them (unlike templates). People can just make up their own parameters, no matter how insignificant. They might be the only thing on Wikipedia with no rules! In my opinion, we need to get this issue resolved with some consensus and codified at WP:CBBALL. Rikster2 (talk) 12:57, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd never thought about succession boxes that way before, but I suppose that's a good a reason as any for why they're so stupid. If this does get to arbitration please let me know, because I'd like to see how this plays out. If you recall, once upon a time I removed those from Jon Scheyer's article as well, only to have User:Epeefleche revert them. He is owning the article, vehemently defending the usefulness of those succession boxes with intense cruft, and is basically at a 3RR with you over it. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I found out there is actually a succession box standardization project, so at least someone is trying to bring some order to these things. After reading their guidelines I really feel the only things in college basketball that we should even be considering them for are college head coaches and major (I'm talking Wooden, Naismith) awards.  They don't specifically go deep into sports, but looking at the examples in politics and royalty, it doesn't seem like anything else really rises to a comparable level.  Rikster2 (talk) 14:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Would you mind adding your 2 cents on the Parade All-American category?
There is a discussion going on here to rename this category to make it specific to the boys' team. The discussion isn't moving that fast, would you mind adding another voice? Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 01:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for basketball coach if you want to help out
I am working on creating a new article for George "Bo" Shepard, a former UNC basketball coach, here User:Remember/UNC Coach. I was just going to add a couple of more sources to the article and then put it up as a DYK. If you are interested in helping out or taking a quick look at the article, please do. Any help is always greatly appreciated. Remember (talk) 12:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

OK. The article for George Shepard is about to go live. I am going to nominate it soon for a DYK unless you want to make any changes. Thanks so much for your help! Remember (talk) 13:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Article added
The Bo Shepard article is now live. I have nominated it for a DYK here Template talk:Did you know. Thanks again for all your help! Remember (talk) 17:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC) Remember (talk) 12:46, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Rob Rensberger
Hello! Your submission of Rob Rensberger at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 talk 13:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'm going to find an extra ~500 characters worth of prose about this guy, so I'm withdrawing my nomination. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Guinness World Records (book)
Regarding Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu, do we have a category for articles who have been registered at the Guinness book of records? --Jordiferrer (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you answer this one? --Jordiferrer (talk) 09:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

2009 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans
Thanks for your editorial contributions. You may want to post this on your user page: --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Moir
Hello! Your submission of John Moir at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ed Beisser
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Danny Heater
You were asking about the picture of Danny Heater. I would go ahead and try it. Someone might challenge it, since he's alive, but you're showing a picture that is directly related to his notability as a high school basketball player. Here's a sample of the code for a fair use image of a person: File:Al Helfer.jpg. Let me know when you upload it, I'd like to see it.--GrapedApe (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Forest Sale
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Leroy Wright
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Moir
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Parade High School All-Americans
Jrcla2, you are reverting my recent edits to this category in error. "Category:Parade High School All-Americans (boys' basketball)" is one of five properly spelled subcategories of the parent "Category:Parade High School All-Americans"; the others being "Category:Parade High School All-Americans (football)," "Category:Parade High School All-Americans (girls' basketball)," "Category:Parade High School All-Americans (boys' soccer)," and "Category:Parade High School All-Americans (girls' soccer)." I populated the original parent category with the football All-Americans. Rikster created the subcategories and populated them; the original subcategories were misspelled (specifically, the plural possessive nouns boys' and girls') and are inconsistent with standard WP naming conventions (i.e., we properly use "men's college basketball," not "men college basketball" or "mens college basketball"). This was mentioned and ignored at the end of the related CfD discussion. Afterward, Rikster acknowledged that the plural possessives in the subcategories were misspelled and needed to be corrected; I agreed to take care of that (please see discussions on my talk page @ User talk:Dirtlawyer1). The other incorrectly spelled subcategories have already been depopulated and are now pending speedy deletion; it remains to depopulate the incorrectly spelled "boys basketball" subcategory, populate the correctly spelled "boys' basketball" subcategory, and then delete "boys basketball." I ask that you be part of the solution, and not needlessly revert these edits again. In fact, your assistance in correcting the "boys' basketball" subcategory spellings on the article pages would help with the timely correction of this spelling and grammar problem and would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 10:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't the quicker way to go about this be: (1) De-populate the "boys' basketball" category, (2) Delete "boys' basketball", (3) Nominate "boys basketball" for renaming, (4) Once approved, a bot would go and move all of the instances of "boys basketball" to "boys' basketball" without any tedious, human-made edits.
 * As it's being done now, human corrections are needlessly done and wasting an enormous amount of time on editors' parts when a bot could do the same thing. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:38, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Jrcla2, I've already nominated the "boys basketball" subcategory for speedy renaming/move with substantial explanation at CfD. Notwithstanding the "renaming/move" terminology, the process as it was explained to me is substantially what you described above.  Once the speedy grace period of 48 hours elapses without objection, Cydebot will tweak the categories on the article pages, effectively moving them from "boys basketball" to "boys' basketball."  Then "boys basketball" will be deleted and we can get back to improving content instead of futzing with CfD procedure.  Please accept my apologies for any aggravation this may have caused you.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Preferred infobox template
Jrcla2, what is the currently preferred NBA player infobox template? Are there different templates for current and retired players, or are they uniform? Different template(s) for international players? I'm cleaning up several former Florida Gators bios, and I would like to use the project-standard template(s). Thanks for your help. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I found out a while back that WP:NBA is trying to eradicate Infobox NBAretired and make all NBA players' infoboxes, whether active or retired, use Infobox NBA Player for consistency. As far as international goes, use Infobox basketball player for any player (whether American or foreign) who either currently plays for or his last professional team ever was in a non-NBA league. In other words, if Joe Cool played for 12 years in the NBA, but then played his final 2 years of professional basketball in Italy's Serie A, then use the generic basketball player infobox. Those are how I've understood the uses, anyhow. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Graduation Rates
Do you know what the graduation rates of top basketball prospects are? The last number one prospect to even finish one year of college was Josh McRoberts in 2005. The article should not say that UNC will be Harrison Barnes future alma mater. It is unlikely that he will graduate. And can you think of any other reason why a best selling author would not have a wikipedia article?Eiad77 (talk) 22:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You can certainly remove "future alma mater" from the article because that is, I agree, WP:speculation. However, you verbally denigrated a player in his talk page without context, without real reason and most importantly without any sources. I'm not aware of who the number one prospects were since 2006 (if you could provide a link for that info), and I'd also like to see sources that show none of the top prospects have finished one year of college since 2006 either. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * One does not need to graduate from an institution for it to be their alma mater.--TM 02:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, good point. I hadn't thought of that. In any case, that helps my argument, not hinders it. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK Medal

 * Ah, very cool. Much obliged. Jrcla2 (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Good article
I am working on getting Monk McDonald, a star college athelete and former head coach of North Carolina basketball, up to a GA. Based on the GA review, it definately looks like it is possible. If you want to lend any help to this effort, your contributions would be most appreciated. Remember (talk) 11:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Monk McDonald has now reached GA status. Feel free to let me know what you think of the revised article. Remember (talk) 15:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Willie Jackson (basketball)
-- Cirt (talk) 00:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ronnie McCollum
-- Cirt (talk) 12:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Daren Queenan
Orlady (talk) 00:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Common courtesy
Please consult WP:BEFORE and carefully consider your recent conduct. Your behavior has not been courteous or constructive. PicodeGato (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Fellowship
Please avoid trolling and seeking to harass other editors. Thanks. PicodeGato (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

WP::AfD
I created a discussion page at Articles for deletion/Paul Tierney (professor and venture capitalist). Bearian (talk) 20:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

College Insider awards
Jrcla2 - a little while back we discussed the templates for these awards and agreed to delete unless they were in this years' NCAA record book. Just wanted to follow up and let you know that they ARE included in this year's edition. Cheers! Rikster2 (talk) 13:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh thanks for letting me know, I actually thought to look for that the other day but forgot. Question - should we get rid of CollegeInsider.com men's basketball awards and incorporate the awards' articles in College Basketball Awards? Jrcla2 (talk) 14:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure - 1 less template hanging around Rikster2 (talk) 14:15, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Tagging NBA images
I see that you are tagging all those NBA images. That is a tough task. This page User:Noble Story/Keith Allison photos lists some of the NBA images and can makes things easier.— Chris! c / t 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll be sure to get those. Basically I'm just hopping around to every NBA article imaginable and tagging the photographs or otherwise applicable files to the NBA Project. I think it will help keep those (hundreds, thousands?) of images in one, convenient spot for us and other users to peruse. If you ever want to do mindless work yet still feel accomplished, please feel free to help me out haha. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * So, only images directly related to the NBA should be tagged. For example, an image of MJ on a golf cart should not be tagged, right.— Chris! c / t 21:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a more liberal mindset when it comes to it. MJ is clearly best known for his NBA career, so a picture of him on a golf cart (to me) would still be appropriate to tag. Jrcla2 (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2009 NBA Development League Expansion Draft
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Outline of basketball
I just thought you might like to know how the article from this AfD you participated in is doing. It has been cleaned up and is nearing completion. And it looks good.

By the way, the guy (User:A Radish for Boris) who nominated it for deletion was discovered to be a sock puppet, and has been indefinitely blocked. So I guess the AfD was invalid to begin with.

Thank you for your support.  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   05:13, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. The outline looks a whole lot better than when it was at AfD. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Bill Hannon
Hello. I was just wondering where you found the dates of birth and death for Bill Hannon. Not that I doubt you, it's just that I couldn't find them anywhere myself. - PM800 (talk) 18:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The Social Security Death Index. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of NBA Development League champions
The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:2010 CAA football standings
Hi Jrcla2 - I noticed you updated Template:2010 CAA football standings to be consistent with the 2009 template. I think it's more important to be consistent with the other 2010 FCS conference templates, since they're all shown together on 2010 NCAA Division I FCS football season. What do you think? GoingBatty (talk) 00:12, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't particularly care either way really. The Southern Conference template is using its own symbols, too. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

D-League player category naming convention
Jrcla2 - Since the D-League season kicked off Thursday I have been applying the team categories to players as they appear (hope this isn't something you wanted to do). My question is this - the Albuquerque Thunderbirds cahnged their name slightly to the New Mexico Thunderbirds - should this be a new cat? I think that is what was done with the Baltimore/Capitol/Washington Bullets, but didn't want to muck up the hierarchy by creating an invalid category. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 14:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a good question, one that I've toyed with before but never came to any solid conclusion. After giving it some thought, I say that there should be a new Category:New Mexico Thunderbirds players, and then the Albuquerque Thunderbirds one will become a subcat of it. Since there's precedence in WP:NBA, and since the D-League is within the scope of that WikiProject, I say yes, make it. Also, please feel free to add as many of these cats to players as you want. That's not something I "want to do" per se. When I created the cats back in August or September I went around and tried to populate them but it was a b. I'm happy you're doing it, actually. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure I will commit to staying on top of NBDL cats all year (especially since college hoops season is heating up), but I'll make the NM T-Birds category. Rikster2 (talk) 17:04, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This is kind of off-topic, but I'm just curious as to why you've left all of the blue-linked All-Americans on your userpage, but remove other players (such as Tim Smith, for example) when they get created? Any reason? Jrcla2 (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Just like seeing visible progress against a set list I guess. I may delete the bluelinks since the effort has slowed down.  The other lists are moving targets anyway.  Rikster2 (talk) 18:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

3-article DYK nomination
Hi... I have commented here about your nomination, your views would be welcome. EdChem (talk) 12:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Follow-up... two article hook approved, single article hook has some referencing issues. Please have a look.  EdChem (talk) 13:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Byron Larkin
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tim Smith (basketball)
Hello! Your submission of Tim Smith (basketball) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 04:54, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2001 NBDL Draft
Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2006 NBA Development League Expansion Draft
Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for All-NBA Development League Team
Materialscientist (talk) 12:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2001 NBDL Supplemental Draft
Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tim Smith (basketball)
Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

New DYK article that I could use help on
I know that this topic isn't your general area of focus, but thought I would ask for assistance anyway since you are so good at it. Anyway, I am working on creating an article for the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery, which I find fascinating, and I was hoping you might give it a once over and let me know your thoughts before the article goes live. You can find the draft article here User:Remember/Tiflis Bank Robbery. Thanks. Remember (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Greg Koubek
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

1981 SWAC POY
Something about that year makes these hard to find, eh? I think it's probably Harry Kelly, but I can't find any proof. He was the only SWAC guy on the AP All-American HM team that year. The other 4 members of the All-Swac team were Albert Irving and Dwight Alexander of Alcorn & Alvin Jackson and Anthony Bryant of Sothern (at least according to the 81-82 Street & Smiths, they don't mention who the POY was). Good luck! Rikster2 (talk) 02:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just about to message you because I've been looking for this mystery POY for the last hour straight. I really don't think it was Harry Kelly (however, given his talent I will not rule him out). From the sources I've found, I am convinced that the 1981 POY was either Kevin Loder of Alabama State or Audie Norris of Jackson State, but I'll be damned if I can't find a single blurb anywhere about either of them as the player of the year (or, as the SWAC sometimes refers to them, as season MVPs). If you can turn up any info on either of them verifying if they're the POY that'd be great. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, how far back does the SWAC award go? I have absolutely no idea. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Could be Norris or Loder.  I wouldn't go by my Street & Smith, the writing was pretty unclear in the SWAC section.  I see you found names back to 1974.  For 1977 I would be shocked if it weren't either Purvis Short or Alonzo Bradley.  Both were first team College Division All-Americans that year.  In 1978, I would think it was Purvis Short for sure, but again, no proof.  The SWAC (and all its members) became an NCAA D1 conference in 1979, but has been around for a lot longer as an NAIA league.  So I don't know how far back the POYs go.  I'll check a few other resources later today.  Good luck! Rikster2 (talk) 12:57, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I just e-mailed SWAC's Assistant Director of Communications inquiring about the POYs. It's a Friday afternoon so if I hear back from her at all, it won't be until next week most likely. It'd be great if she could provide that information. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:09, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Another track is to email the SIDs at the schools involved, if you have it narrowed down. I did this with the MEAC POY and was able to eliminate at least one possibility that way. Rikster2 (talk) 20:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * She actually responded yesterday to let me know that she was CCing my email to the man who is in charge of SWAC men's basketball and who would be better suited to answer that. I'm actually hopeful now that sometime next week I'll be given the remaining years (fingers crossed). Jrcla2 (talk) 16:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Broaddus Battlers football coach navbox
Template:Broaddus Battlers football coach navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Bsherr (talk) 18:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh, don't care enough to defend it. I thought someone would have come along and made a coach or two by now, but it's all good. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It is going to be moved to User:Paulmcdonald/Broaddus Battlers football coach navbox per request. Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  02:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Helms POYs
Jrcla2 - Clearly you've made these a priority. I have been a little busy to do actual articles, but let me know when you do Earl Mueller (1925) - I actually have a little info on this guy, like his full name, nickname, year of death (he died in something like 1932), etc. IIRC, info was hard to come by but the Colorado College archivist sent me copies of some useful stuff. Rikster2 (talk) 01:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll wait for that to be the last one then. In the meanwhile I can make the other three and maybe clean up the Helms POY article itself. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Paul Arizin's 100 point game
I will try to find out more about this game. I do quite a bit of research of this kind of stuff. It's not even acknowledged by Villanova's media guide or record book. It's odd because the Nova media guide has a complete listing of every 100 point game by the team. Only two of those games occurred while Arizin was playing for Villanova (in the regular season, that is). In one of those games, Arizin scored 85. In the other game, he scored 34 points. So there's a lot of work to be done here.Hoops gza (talk) 04:17, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:CAA Men's Swimming and Diving Silver Anniversary Team
Template:CAA Men's Swimming and Diving Silver Anniversary Team has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji (talk) 01:16, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Charlie T. Black
I've verified your DYK nomination, but I made some suggestion for the hook that you might want to consider. — MT (talk) 12:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Charlie T. Black
Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Griffin.gif
I tagged it with the NPD (no permission) template. Unfortunately, no speedy tags apply to this one, even though its obviously bogus. --GrapedApe (talk) 19:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I was able to locate a the file's original location, so it does qualify as a speedy.--GrapedApe (talk) 19:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The uploader's other image File:TaylorReveley.jpg, on the other hand, I tagged with a speedy.--GrapedApe (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 21:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 2009 NBA Development League Draft
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DYK for 2009 NBA Development League Draft
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Paul Arizin 100 point game
Have you been able to find any point of reference for Paul Arizin's purported 100 point game? Some good points of reference would include the date of the game, or the opponent against whom it was scored. The season in which it happened would even be a good start.Hoops gza (talk) 05:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked, so no I haven't found anything new. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Coach navboxes, succession boxes, etc.
Jrcla, you have no idea how happy I am to see you working on the basketball coach navbox upgrades and succession box purges. You were one of the editors I knew we would need to get his done. Cheers! Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:53, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a change of pace from the usual editing. I like doing the FCS football templates because I'm a CAA conference alum, and I have a soft spot for lesser-tier (but still really important) football and basketball programs. I can do all of the CAA basketball navboxes as I get the chance, and then beyond that it'll be pick and choose. What's really driving me is my unparalleled hatred of succession boxes. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2010 (UTC)