User talk:Jriessman

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policy for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. --Hu12 15:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Hu12 15:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

http://spam.arhp.org

 * Spam sock accounts

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent insertion of spam, commercial content, and/or links is prohibited under policy. Any further spamming may result in your account and/or your IP address being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. You are, however, encouraged to add appropriate content to the encyclopedia. If you feel the material in question should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with,
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors,
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam);
 * and you must always:
 * 1) avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Conflict of Interest. --Hu12 16:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

RESPONSE I work for a non-profit org that offers tons of great resources on sexuality, contraception, HPV, STDs, etc. -- would like people to be able to access these materials, as they are peer-reviewed and are produced using evidence-based science (not idealogy!). I am not doing this for search engine rankings, but rather to help get these materials in the hands of those who need them. — Jriessman (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * It doesn't matter--being noncommercial (etc.) It doesn't confer a license to spam Wikipedia even if it's true, and these sites are often trying to sell something even if the business is organized as a nonprofit. External links policy on Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, and in this case, you are the Director of Communications for arhp.org. Unfortunately your conflict of interest editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote arhp.org . Such a conflict is strongly discouraged. Your contributions to wikipedia under Jriessman, consist entirely of adding external links to arhp.org and is considered  WP:Spam. Looking through your contributions as a whole, the all seem to be arhp.org related only. Please do not continue adding links to arhp.org on Wikipedia. It has become apparent that your account and IP's are only being used for spamming external links and for self-promotion.  Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising" and persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted. Any further spamming may result in your account and/or your IP address being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please see the welcome page and Civility. Avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to promote arhp.org right?  --Hu12 16:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

RESPONSE:

I hear you loud and clear -- but what I am trying to do is improve women's health and their access to evidence-based, peer reviewed information. If that improves Wikipedia, great -- if it improves women's health, even better. Janet — Jriessman (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * First of all, when using talk pages, please "sign" your comments by either using the signature button if you have the edit toolbar enabled, or by simply typing four tildes ( ~ ). This automatically creates a timestamp and name so everyone can keep track of who is saying what. Next, the best way to improve wikipedia is by adding reliable, verifiable sourced content. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a webdirectory. Adding external links is only marginally helpful. If your have an interest in this topic, your energy could benefit the project greatly if you worked on actual article content, instead of simply linking to one specific site over and over (whether it was intention or not, this is considered "spamming"). If you only want to add links, you may want to try the open directory project, http://dmoz.org. If you have any questions on wikipedia, or how you can contribute, feel free to ask me. Thanks for your consideration. (also, per WP:EL, foreign language links are generally to be avoided, especially if an English language equivalent exists. Keep in mind that there are over 200 different language wikipedias, including a Spanish one. Hope this helps.-Andrew c [talk] 16:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

RESPONSE:

Thank you, Andrew -- your tone is different than your colleagues, inasmuch as you seem to understand that my movtives are honorable. And I hear what you're saying. I am just trying to a) avoid reinventing the wheel -- great and credible information exisits on other sites, including ours (ARHP) and the Resource Centers to which I created external links (that have since been pulled) connect people to dozens of additional credible and vetted links on those topics; and, b)reach as large an audience as possible with credible information (it scares me how many people cite Wikepedia as their source, rather than the "author" or reference of the Wiki post). I will investigate http://dmoz.org, and will continue to find ways to help inform Wiki users about reproductive health issues using peer-reviewed, evidence-based science. Janet --Jriessman 17:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Remember, you have a conflict of interest in being the Director of Communications of Association of Reproductive Health Professionals so please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's conflict of interest Policy before you continue to find ways to help inform Wiki users about reproductive health issues... . Thank you--Hu12 17:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Hu12: so very professional of you to insert that final dig (and note the difference in your tone than that of Andrew's) ...you should know better than to use selective portions of a quote. I said " I will continue to find ways to help inform Wiki users about reproductive health issues using peer-reviewed, evidence-based science." If only all Wiki content and content posters could boast the same.--Jriessman 17:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

QUESTION I am following up on my attempt to create links to peer-reviewed, evidence-based published material on reproductive health topics under categories such as IUDs, Contraception, HPV, Cervical Cancer, etc. "HU12" cautioned me: "you have a conflict of interest in being the Director of Communications of Association of Reproductive Health Professionals so please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy." I would argue that I have a vested interest as opposed to a conflict of interest to ensure that the materials that are made available on these pages are accurate, consumer-focused, and up-to-date. Can you speak to this issue or direct me to the person/s and/or committee with whom I can have this discussion? Note, the information on the pages I visited (IUDs, Contraception, etc.) is up-to-date, but the resources/links were weak, and there are a multitude out there. If I posted links to other respectable organization's materials, in addition to those of my org, would that be more palatable/acceptable? Thanks in advance for engaging in this conversation with me. Janet--Jriessman 02:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The way to proceed is clearly described on the WP:COI page. Go to the articles talk page and make a proposal, and let the editors who view the article decide whether to include the content or not (i.e. the link). You could also file a WP:RFC to get input from a number of editors. And once again, I will stress that wikipedia is not a collection of external links, and editing wikipedia for the sole purpose of adding links to your own website is something to avoid. Consider contributing sourced content instead. Hope this helps.-Andrew c [talk] 03:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)