User talk:Jsgoodrich/Archives/2023/September

Good contributions
I have made changes on Cass District Library and Mason District Number 5 Schoolhouse, including request for photo templates, and I said Keep on the Cass District Library deletion discussion. You have made good contributions. Merry Christmas! --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi JS,
 * I wanted to add my thanks for your work on both of these articles. Also, if you are anywhere in the area, some photos of the buildings would be fantastic. I found photos of the Cassopolis library building on Flikr, but unfortunately they don't have a license compatible for use on WP. Firsfron of Ronchester  19:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The photos look great, JS. I didn't expect to see them so quickly! I hope your work in taking the photos pays off. Keep up your great work on WP no matter what the outcome of this deletion discussion is. Take care, Firsfron of Ronchester  06:50, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Great work on the photos. You should remove the photo requested templates on the talk pages yourself. I have done my best to support this article, both on the deletions page and elsewhere. Kalamazoo Public Library suffers in comparison with Cass District Library. The ultimate fate is in the hands of an administrator, but I think Keep or at the worst, no consensus will be the result. Meanwhile, the article became much better. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia's shortcomings
I sympathize with you over what is happening over the DC snowball fight article, and even more so over the tight leash Mkdw keeps on the flash mob article. Some people have very specific ideas about how things should be done, and chase away anyone and anything that doesn't match those ideas. My long experience on Wikipedia informs me that it takes a huge amount of effort to correct those situations, with not much to show for it in the end anyway.

So, sometimes you have to acknowledge Wikipedia's shortcomings and focus on improving the parts of it that are not under someone's thumb. Thankfully, there are many more parts of it that are still "wiki" than there are parts that are "owned". Snowball fight does not have an apparent owner, and at least some of the content from the DC snowball fight article would be on-topic there, so I recommend you copy it over. Not the whole article, of course, but enough to get people intrigued about the "snowball fight gone wrong", at which point they can click on the citation links for more information.--Father Goose (talk) 03:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * i concur with your comments at 2009 snowball fight gun controversy.
 * improvement has been tried before: Esperanza; WikiProject Wikipedia Reform. ongoing discussions Village pump (proposals) this kind of territorial intellectual jousting among 15 year olds will drive away the expert editors.  i recently added some DC lore of the IMF demonstrations at Anti-globalization movement, which i'm sure would be deleted as one off events. (put enough events together, and you have a pattern of behavior, that becomes history) Pohick2 (talk) 03:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you two feel that way. I have left an answer for you on Talk:Flash mob. I hope you will have an opportunity to read it. Mkdw talk 20:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

more debate on definitions at flash mob discussion page > U2 Streets video. Perhaps you could help?76.175.193.153 (talk) 18:21, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Ambiguous place names
Similar to your Marcellus there is Tonawanda. It was a major pain to repair incoming links to that dab page in part because Town of Tonawanda and City of Tonawanda were not all that clear on which was which. I think it helps enormously to specify village, town, city both in a distinguish hatnote and in the lede. However, sometimes other editors resist these remedies. See Talk:Tonawanda (town), New York. --Una Smith (talk) 15:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Michigan Project
Thanks, Js, for the note back in December (!) about the Michigan Project. I DID sign on to participate in this project a while back, though I have since not been very active. Despite being retired, I seem to find plenty of things to occupy my time! I do, however, intend to devote more time to Michigan articles of interest in the near future. John Trapp (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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Geezer Bandit
To expand a bit from what I put on the Request for Comments page. What's really frustrating is the appearance of an article such as this, and wanting to know more! I skimmed your sources, and there just isn't a wealth of detail, is there? Not surprising as he hasn't been caught yet. I didn't see the America's Most Wanted episode. As it stands, the article is just crying for some more detail and I think that's what your request for comment was getting at. What more can you do, having reviewed and cited what minimal authority there is? One suggestion might be to write a one or two sentence description of the guy and his "M.O." to the extent anything has been printed. Apparent age, hair color, height/weight-build, the fact that he doesn't identify himself as the Geezer (and the fact that the FBI named him), and that he is both armed and has pointed a pistol/revolver at bank employees -- all these facts have been mentioned. After creating a thumbnail sketch like that, perhaps a way will appear to glue some of these bits into your article and add some flesh to the bare mask? It just needs a tiny bit more personality. You just whetted my appetite. Wish I could be of more help. Thanks for writing it. Tkotc (talk) 08:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mottville Township Cemetery


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Nomination of Mottville Township Cemetery for deletion
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Cooper

 * Hello JS,
 * I would like to thank you for your Wikipedia article on FAA_v_Cooper. I am Stanmore Cooper, the plaintiff in the case, and my attorney e-mailed me today about your article. I have just created a username account so that I may contribute content, preferably through you or another contributor since I'm a complete newbie and would probably manage to violate a rule or somehow unintentionally mangle the content if I attempted to edit it directly. The article as it stands is pretty good, but there is some well documented Operation Safe Pilot background that might be used to add helpful content. I have reams of documentation from the FAA emergency revocation actions, the NTSB appeals, the criminal case, my petition to the FAA for permission to undergo recertification, the FAA's grant of my petition, issuance of a new medical certificate and airman certificate, and finally my civil complaint through the district court, the 9th circuit court, and the supreme court. I'm not interested in presenting any particular point of view, but believe some objective details would enhance the article. At this point, I believe legislative reform of the privacy act, revising it to explicitly include in the definition of "actual damage" proven mental and emotional distress resulting from deliberate violations of the privacy act by government agencies is vitally important for future privacy act cases where no pecuniary loss is claimed. I am currently writing a book about my seven year long experience, and between Justice Sotomayor's dissent, my book, and pressure from privacy advocates like EPIC and the ACLU, there may be hope for legislative reform. Stanccoop (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Mr. Cooper, I have to admit that I am surprised you found my article, about your case. I make edits to Wiki, when I get free time, and I wonder if anyone looks at them.  I am a law student and had to read your case for my Remedies class, it I felt was a important case in right to privacy that I thought it should have a wiki article.  I read both your appellate and supreme court case and listed to oral arguments.


 * To start, I am glad you have an account on wiki, you should first look at the article on the five pillars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars


 * Also on editing on Wiki you can find this article


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/Editing_Wikipedia


 * The problem you will run into in do your own edits is that it is known as a Conflict of Interest.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest


 * The article is listed as a "start" article if you go to the articles talk page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:FAA_v._Cooper


 * While, I understand your want to include more information, at this time I just do not have a lot of time free to do it. I am in my last semester of law school right now and have started to study for the bar.   If you have published material you would like to have editors review, one suggestion could be posting it on the talk page of the article, and then other editors could review the material.


 * I think one thing I can add is that the FAA has provided your license back. I did an Airmen Inquire and I show that Stanmore Cawthorn Cooper was issued a license on March 1,2008.  If that is you please let me know. I will then update that.


 * I have enable email from other users on wiki so if you would like you can email me offline.

Jsgoodrich (talk) 03:10, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again, JS. Great; thanks for the fast response, and I understand the conflict of interest issue. I had an article published in the NTSB Bar Association News soon after the 9th circuit decision, and it has a lot of details. I can post a link to that article on the FAA v. Cooper article talk page so others can review it for any content that may possibly be appropriate for inclusion in the wiki article. The Airman Certificate issued on March 1, 2008 was an update to include "English Proficient" on the certificate, a fairly recent ICAO requirement for flying internationally. The original Airman Certificate issued following the recertification was dated September 11, 2006 (an odd coincidence since my first certificate was issued on September 11, 1964). I would appreciate your updating the article to reflect my FAA recertification.


 * Good luck on passing the bar exam. Stanccoop (talk) 05:39, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi JS,


 * I have uploaded a copy of my 11 September 2006 Airman Certificate to scribd. The url is . The FAA airman records show only the last certificate issued, which for me is the "English Proficient" update issued on March 1, 2008. Thanks for updating the article referencing Senator Akaka's bill to update the privacy act. I would have posted this on the talk page of the article, but couldn't figure out how. Stanccoop (talk) 17:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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Luna Perez v. Sturgis Public Schools moved to draftspace
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 * It is a Supreme Court case. It is a single source reference document. 192.105.180.47 (talk) 10:20, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Please move the article from draft it is what is known as a single source, this is common with Supreme Court Case documents, the links to the case are in the info box. There are only two sources for this the Supreme Court Opinion/Case File and the US Court of Appeals both are cited in the Info Box.  I suggest before you move articles in to draft you look at the project documents.  In the 16 years I have been on WIKI I have never had a user move my work into drafts on a new Supreme Court Case.  Please move back ASAP. Jsgoodrich (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Faith Wright moved to draftspace
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Amazon
Amazon is a retailer, not a publisher. Its content is created to promote sales. It has been discussed over 200 times at WP:RSN, all to the same conclusion - it is not a reliable source. It even has its own shortcut at WP:RSPAMAZON. Banks Irk (talk) 09:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Again, I think you missing my point. If you read the short cut
 * "User reviews on Amazon are anonymous, self-published, and unverifiable, and should not be used at all. Amazon is a reliable source for basic information about a work (such as release date, ISBN, etc.), although it is unnecessary to cite Amazon when the work itself may serve as a source for that information (e.g., authors' names and ISBNs). Future release dates may be unreliable."
 * We are not talking user reviews. It even states "Amazon is a reliable source for basic information about a work (such as release date, ISBN, etc.)," The question becomes how should we as wiki treat the information they are pulling from movies via and in support the the x-ray service. While Amazon is a retail business they are also an award winning movie studio. They are also the largest or second largest data hosting webserver provider supporting netflix and other streaming services. They are using AI and computer learning models to harvest data.
 * Nothing you have pointed too says Amazon Studios and the Xray service is being held as unverifiable/unreliable. In fact this says that it is a reliable source for basic information. Jsgoodrich (talk) 04:58, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

The Wedding Cottage moved to draftspace
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 * Please move it back as there are many stub movie articles. This is no different. Jsgoodrich (talk) 21:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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