User talk:Jss367

Question about deletion of List of United States soccer players playing abroad
Hi SilkTork,

I noticed you deleted this page. After reviewing the comments on the discussion of the Salvadoran list, I understand that there are reasonable arguments against the existence of this list as a Wikipedia article. However, I felt, and saw other people who agreed, that the American list was kept sufficiently up to date to be meritorious of Wikipedia. I had bookmarked it and found it to be a useful reference. Seeing that I cannot get this information anywhere else, wouldn't it be beneficial to allow the page to remain? I understand that it's important not to create a systemic bias, but how can the removal of useful, up-to-date, information be said to better Wikipedia? Jss367 (talk) 04:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It was mentioned in the discussion that the information is available as a category - Category:American expatriate soccer players. How accurate that category is I have no idea, though you could try looking there for the information you want. Lists are awkward as we don't have as clear a guidance on the inclusion criteria for lists as we do for articles. There is a tendency to accept a list as long as it is seen to be useful to the general reader, and Categories, lists, and navigation templates gives some useful advice. People may feel that a list is not useful when it is poorly sourced and poorly maintained and could be misleading to the general reader, and there is an indication that ongoing maintenance would be an issue. This was the case with the lists of soccer players playing abroad. Where we have no direct and clear guideline on when to keep such lists, the decision comes down to consensus in the discussion - and consensus was clear that these lists were more problematic than they were worth. You are free, of course, to recreate the lists - Guide_to_deletion gives some advice on recreating a deleted article. If you simply recreate the lists as they were at the time of deletion, they will be speedy deleted under Speedy, so you would need to source all the information. That means by each player listed you would need to put a link to a reliable source giving details of the player playing abroad. And you would need to ensure the information was up to date. If you wish to do this, then I could Userfy the article for you. This would mean that I would undelete it and put it in your userspace for a limited period of time (say one month), to allow you to work on it. If after a month little or no work had been done, I would delete it again, but if there were signs of progress we could discuss you keeping it for a while longer. And if you had managed to fully source the list we could discuss returning it to mainspace and having another AfD to see if the consensus was now to keep it. Let me know if you wish me to userfy the list(s) for you.  SilkTork  *YES! 08:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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