User talk:Jtoms1

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Donohue advertisements
"a major player" "a much sought-after speaker" "Renowned as one of the nation’s top negotiation experts"... these are not encyclopedic content, they are advertisements - language which reeks of some speakers'-bureau description of their offerings. We cannot accept language like this, since it is not impartial, not verifiable, and above all is grossly promotional. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Read WP:BIO, along with WP:V and WP:RS; there is no evidence that this person is in any way notable. Compare to the articles about Zig Ziglar or Donald Trump. If he's so notable, where are the articles about Donohue from Forbes or Barron's or the Wall Street Journal or The Economist? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Only one of those, the first, approaches being a reliable source. The second is some kind of online profile; the third is a speaker's-bureau listing, a species of advertising. Executives of notable companies are not therefore themselves notable. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * An advertisement is an advertisement, regardless of who wrote it. The deletion of that prior item is part of the historical record now. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ? It's not that I'm "intent on" making it part of the historical record. It's just that it is already part of the record, like today's Brewers game's results or the fact that I typed this message. You irrevocably agreed to release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 and the GFDL; nothing entered into Wikipedia, no matter how trivial, is deleted beyond recall except under the most incredibly rare of extreme circumstances. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've created a sandbox at User:Jtoms1/Donohue where you can work on crafting an impartial and well-sourced article (omitting the "Mr." as we don't use honorifics). Please be aware of the usual cautions about conflict of interest, neutral point of view, etc. What are those .png files you posted on my talkpage? They are not accessible from my computer. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The use of scans of articles is not accepted here, as scans are susceptible to Photoshopping, etc. Just provide references to the original articles; see WP:CITE for instructions on how to do that. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)