User talk:Judezyoung

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Judezyoung. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page South Brunswick High School (New Jersey), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Greetings, Tacyang.
 * Thank you for the constructive criticism. As I said, I am the school historian at South Brunswick High School as well as the co-founder of the S.B.H.S. Sports Hall of Fame (plus, I emcee the the banquets and write the programs) and, as such, I know far more about the history of S.B.H.S. than anyone else. I say this as a matter of fact, not with undue pride. I have created files on individuals and groups and teams going back to September, 1960 and I am in constant contact with literally thousands of our school's graduates. (We just graduated 774 more students last week.) My only desire is to get certain of our graduates the recognition that they deserve--both within and outside of our community. There are a number of people who are yet to be recognized as "Notable Alumni" of our school and I hope to be able to insure their inclusion on our school's already outstanding Wikipedia page. Suffice it to say, I know or have known every person on our current list but one. I guess when you're a graduate of a school--I'm S.B.H.S., Class or 1977--and a teacher and coach and historian at your alma mater for over 30 years, you're going to know all significant people. I don't see my situation as a conflict of interest: I'm just in the best possible position to know who deserves recognition. I recently did a favor for Fagen; Quindlen was my best friend's older sister; Breitbart, Elko, Portnoy, Romero, Sanu, Tibbetts, et al. are my former students, and so forth. Btw, another former student who deserves to be on this list is Karen Russo Burke, the former prima ballerina for The Princeton Ballet/The American Repertory Ballet, who has now been the Artistic Director of The Dayton Ballet for close to 25 years. Once agian, thank you for your help in re" COI.
 * All Good Wishes,
 * Jim Zinsmeister / S.B.H.S. 1977 / S.B.H.S. emlployee since 1992 / School Historian / Co-founder, S.B.H.S. Sports Hall of Fame 47.21.152.170 (talk) 23:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your response. I think you are saying you are a member of staff at this school? If so, this is a conflict of interest. Please read the CoI guidance linked above, and do not edit the page directly - you can post requests on the article's Talk page for others to pick up and make changes to the article. Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 21:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
Hello. Your recent edit to South Brunswick High School (New Jersey) appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 20:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Tacyarg. In fact, a number of articles were written about Chauncey Corwynne "Chub" Chatten down the years. In addition to being an educator and accomplished jazz musician and composer, he was also, significantly, the first teacher and credited mentor of Donald Fagen (SBHS 1966), who was the co-founder of Steely Dan. Judezyoung (talk) 21:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Notables in lists need articles and sources
This edit again adds Karen Kahn as a notable to the list of alumni in the article for South Brunswick High School. While there are some iffy sources about Ms. Kahn, she has no Wikipedia article. Please look at all of the other entries in this list, all of whom have Wikipedia articles of their own that establish notability *AND* have sources to establish their connection to the school. This is not the first time that you have tried to add Karen Kahn, nor is it the first time that you've added other individuals with no Wikipedia articles of their own to demonstrate their independent notability, unlike Kirsten Lepore, who does meet that standard. Please don't add other entries unless both standards are met. Alansohn (talk) 01:57, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Greetings, Alansohn. I respectfully disagree that the sources are "iffy." Ms. Kahn has appeared in numerous films as well as television programs and is credited in all films and shows listed under her name at . Also, the article listed is one of several written by a current student about Ms. Kahn, who is an esteemed alumna of South Brunswick High School. As far as a Wikipedia entry being the standard for inclusion herein, I should say that Wikipedia notes many people every day in "Notable Deaths" that also have no Wikipedia page--and the vast majority of these "red letter" names have had less professionally productive lives than Ms. Kahn, who is far beet known in our community than almost all of the people listed under "Notable Alumni", all but one of whom I know personally. My questions are: Do you doubt that Ms. Kahn is actually associated with South Brunswick High School? If you don't, would, say, a film review from e.g., The New York Times or another major newspaper listing Ms. Kahn be sufficient? I've successfully added people to the S.B.H.S. list in the past who seem less notable than Ms. Kahn. Lastly, are you saying that unless you already have a Wiki page, you're ineligible since you don't meet notability standards. I would guess that there are quite a few consequential people who don't as yet have a "blue name" entry. I hope you aren't offended by this response. All Good Wishes, Judezyoung. 50.206.77.185 (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0434867/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm 50.206.77.185 (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't tell you who is better or less known in South Brunswick, but all of the other individuals listed here have Wikipedia articles demonstrating notability *AND* reliable and verifiable sources establishing a connection to South Brunswick High School. Reinserting the entry for Karen Kahn to the article without addressing the issues is not going to solve the problem. Alansohn (talk) 20:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Greetings, Alansohn. I'm guessing Ms. Kahn should have a Wikipedia page, which would resolve all of these issues. She has been a working actor in Hollywood for over 40 years and has numerous credits in both well-known and lesser known films (hence, her imdb profile: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0434867/ ) as well as in several high-profile television shows. The SBHS school newspaper recent did not one but several articles on Ms. Kahn, whom the school district perceives to be as "notable" as any one of the other mostly less known (or unknown) graduates of the school who have Wikipedia "blue" entries. If Ms. Kahn jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge tomorrow and it was noted in the L. A. Times that she was a four-decade veteran of the motion picture industry, would she become "notable" and associable with SBHS ex post facto simply because her alma mater was mentioned in an obituary? If the same local and statewide newspapers that did feature stories on Mo Sanu and Ricardo Romero and Kirsten Lepore did one on Ms. Kahn, who has lived in Greater L.A. for decades, would she somehow be instantly "notable" and worthy of a profile? Ms. Kahn, who has been seen on big and small screens in theaters and homes across the country by millions of people is surely "as" notable--or even "more" notable--than any number of people who are listed annually in "Deaths in 2022--Wikipedia." She's been reviewed in The New York Times and appeared onscreen with the likes of Christopher Reeve. (https://www.vikingvibe.com/post/sbhs-class-of-1976-alumnus-actress-karen-kahn-2) If Wikipedia is resistant to Ms. Kahn's inclusion on South Brunswick High School's Wikipedia, it seems to me that what constitutes qualification for it is, at the very least, occasionally arbitrary. Ms. Tibbetts and Ms. Khachiyan and Ms. Squibb and Mr. Romero are or were successful people in their respective ways but are they really undeniably notable? I wish that instead of thwarting Ms. Kahn's entry, that Wikipedia would invest time in creating a page for her. Perhaps I should. In any event, if you have any suggestions, I would be very grateful. With Gratitude & All Good Wishes, Judezyoung Judezyoung (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zagunis 50.206.77.185 (talk) 12:07, 27 January 2023 (UTC)